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Feb 19, 2015 7:15 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?
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Feb 19, 2015 7:22 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
I fine some foreign policy to be unjust!! but as a soldier I guess you have no rights to disobey your order!!to make wrong right or right wrong!! sad flower
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Feb 19, 2015 7:40 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
LilBeaver
LilBeaverLilBeaverBayern, Bavaria Germany7 Threads 3 Polls 96 Posts
Neither, just fools
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Feb 19, 2015 7:44 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
LilBeaver: Neither, just fools
to bad most of them are young men and women!! that pay with their life !
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Feb 19, 2015 7:45 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
LilBeaver
LilBeaverLilBeaverBayern, Bavaria Germany7 Threads 3 Polls 96 Posts
redo416: to bad most of them are young men and women!! that pay with their life !



They get paid for it, so don't worry yourself so much.
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Feb 19, 2015 7:51 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
LilBeaver: They get paid for it, so don't worry yourself so much.
you can never put a price on your life ! what sad is most come form poor family or single parents just looking for a better life !!
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Feb 19, 2015 8:13 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?


I think that has always been true even if most do not see it that way.
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Feb 19, 2015 8:15 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
They are soldiers being used as pawns. Some put their time in and get out once they decide what's better for them selves. Others stay and hope they are doing a service for their respective countries or regions. There are military personnel that have put so much time in, they stay regardless in the hopes of collecting retirement.

They don't make very much for what they do and were originally intended for. By comparison, it makes most other positions and professions severely, grossly, over paid. They literally, have put their lives on the line for their regions. Terrorism being an immediate threat with politics continually woven through out.

People that have the freedoms they have in any nation or country; can thank their military. Some of them with the aid of other countries and/or nations.

Sadly; there are places under the thumb of their military. A reverse of what many might envision armed forces are for.

Whether people like it or not; if mankind itself weren't so power hungry, hateful,selfish and destructive; There wouldn't be a need for so many countries to have armed forces. They do serve a purpose. Many through the centuries have paid the ultimate price.
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Feb 19, 2015 8:17 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
Draegoneer: They are soldiers being used as pawns. Some put their time in and get out once they decide what's better for them selves. Others stay and hope they are doing a service for their respective countries or regions. There are military personnel that have put so much time in, they stay regardless in the hopes of collecting retirement.

They don't make very much for what they do and were originally intended for. By comparison, it makes most other positions and professions severely, grossly, over paid. They literally, have put their lives on the line for their regions. Terrorism being an immediate threat with politics continually woven through out.

People that have the freedoms they have in any nation or country; can thank their military. Some of them with the aid of other countries and/or nations.

Sadly; there are places under the thumb of their military. A reverse of what many might envision armed forces are for.

Whether people like it or not; if mankind itself weren't so power hungry, hateful,selfish and destructive; There wouldn't be a need for so many countries to have armed forces. They do serve a purpose. Many through the centuries have paid the ultimate price.


thumbs up

well said. that they are sometimes pawns to the whim of the powerful does not mean their service is not appreciated or needed. it is both.
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Feb 19, 2015 8:55 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
Draegoneer: They are soldiers being used as pawns. Some put their time in and get out once they decide what's better for them selves. Others stay and hope they are doing a service for their respective countries or regions. There are military personnel that have put so much time in, they stay regardless in the hopes of collecting retirement.

They don't make very much for what they do and were originally intended for. By comparison, it makes most other positions and professions severely, grossly, over paid. They literally, have put their lives on the line for their regions. Terrorism being an immediate threat with politics continually woven through out.

People that have the freedoms they have in any nation or country; can thank their military. Some of them with the aid of other countries and/or nations.

Sadly; there are places under the thumb of their military. A reverse of what many might envision armed forces are for.

Whether people like it or not; if mankind itself weren't so power hungry, hateful,selfish and destructive; There wouldn't be a need for so many countries to have armed forces. They do serve a purpose. Many through the centuries have paid the ultimate price.
partly agree !!one have to wonder kill or be kill at what cost sometimes it can be a unjust cost a waste of a life like seemingly innocent people mainly women and children that why I can not agree with most foreign policy it sometime seem to be my way or no way!!perfect example look what happening with isreal and philistine!!
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Feb 19, 2015 10:26 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
redo416: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?



As they say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.... dunno all the same..
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Feb 19, 2015 10:41 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
felixis99: well said. that they are sometimes pawns to the whim of the powerful does not mean their service is not appreciated or needed. it is both.

I think soldiers are political pawns, but I'm also aware of how grateful (some of?) the German people were when the Americans arrived. They were brave men.

Political pawns who also saved my mother's life.
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Feb 20, 2015 6:21 AM CST soldiers or pawns !!
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
redo416: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?


You make it sound like they die for nothing. What about the oil and the trade routes? They're worth a lot of money. Better to have a war where you get something out of it is all I'm saying.

Not like WWII where the globe united to get Germany down on jumped-up charges. Was it worth the sacrifice? Are we better off? Or did we not unleash a marxist menace both at home and in the east? Just think of all the heroes who would be alive today and all the reprobates who wouldn't if we had opposed the Brother's war and all its senseless destruction.
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Feb 20, 2015 8:35 AM CST soldiers or pawns !!
jac_the_gripper: I think soldiers are political pawns, but I'm also aware of how grateful (some of?) the German people were when the Americans arrived. They were brave men.

Political pawns who also saved my mother's life.


I do understand

One does not have to be an American to be a soldier. Until the finish of WW2 the British had the finest Navy in the world and the finest Air Force (only rivaled at the time by Germany, but I choose English - that's another conversation, anyway)wave

I have lived much of my life near an Air Force base and have lived near other bases. I think they understand far better than most how the Chessboard is set up :)
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Feb 20, 2015 8:38 AM CST soldiers or pawns !!
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
redo416: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?


some men getting laid with the ladies, just for wearing a uniform

full of medals and all these militaria thing being bought on the internet
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Feb 22, 2015 3:07 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
2girlsnocup
2girlsnocup2girlsnocupunknown, Greater London, England UK28 Threads 1 Polls 2,621 Posts
redo416: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?


It's not like they come up with the idea to invade another country on their own merit. They are the tools used by the governments to do the 'manual labour'.

It's not like there's a shortage of people lining up to do the work either.
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Feb 22, 2015 3:11 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
In response to: in todays world would you not agreed that soldiers are use as pawns in foreign policy or worse ?





Aren't we all being used as pawns by our government?
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Feb 22, 2015 3:27 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
2girlsnocup: It's not like they come up with the idea to invade another country on their own merit. They are the tools used by the governments to do the 'manual labour'.

It's not like there's a shortage of people lining up to do the work either.
how sad !!sad flower
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Feb 22, 2015 3:32 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
2girlsnocup
2girlsnocup2girlsnocupunknown, Greater London, England UK28 Threads 1 Polls 2,621 Posts
redo416: how sad !!


What's sad about it?

It's not as if it's a massive surprise to them and let's also remember, most of them sign up for it. National service isn't that big a thing these days.
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Feb 22, 2015 3:32 PM CST soldiers or pawns !!
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
Ccincy: Aren't we all being used as pawns by our government?
at what price!! am sure not with your life .that is the life of a soldier! or should I say the game government play with your children!!sad flower
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