Why would anyone believe in a god? (145)
lifeisadream: Higher intelligence?
Does it have a name, concept, origen...?
Does it have a name, concept, origen...?
Tony. :-)
Labels are so conforming. What would you name an entity entities that could concoct such a construct as earth, this solar system, with extremely limited humans who all tend to think that they are the most intelligent beings possible? Zeus? Or perhaps a name that suggests a sense of humor.
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EINSTEIN INFLUENCED BY CHRISTIANITY
Albert Einstein stated: “God Almighty does not throw dice.”
and
“Before God we are all equally wise – equally foolish.”
and
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds.”
Read more at
Albert Einstein stated: “God Almighty does not throw dice.”
and
“Before God we are all equally wise – equally foolish.”
and
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds.”
Read more at
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stringman: EINSTEIN INFLUENCED BY CHRISTIANITY
Albert Einstein stated: “God Almighty does not throw dice.”
and
“Before God we are all equally wise – equally foolish.”
and
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds.”Read more at
Albert Einstein stated: “God Almighty does not throw dice.”
and
“Before God we are all equally wise – equally foolish.”
and
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds.”Read more at
einstein stated many things at various points in his life.
In the letter auctioned for $330,000, Einstein writes "the word 'God' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
i do not think Einstein was referring to a particular personal god but rather 'superior spirit manifested'.
he also stated
“Every scientist becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men.”
i do not believe that one requires to join a religion to believe in a god.
jmo
noun: pantheism
1.
a doctrine that identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God.
2.
rare
worship that admits or tolerates all gods.
pantheism
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BigBamaQ: Its an honest question, I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. But as a rational adult I have found no reason to believe in a god. I searched for evidence and found that all evidence points to natural processes and contradicts the bible. I researched other religions and found they held no more truth than Christianity.
I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.
A definition of what I mean by evidence.
ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun
noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.
A definition of what I mean by evidence.
ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun
noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
I don't believe that there is a adult person that doesn't go trough this questions(specially if one is looking for his purpose in this life) and the answer to the asked "evidence" and the unwritten laws of life are probable
1. our spiritual development is not on a level needed to understand God
2. you will not need evidence that u can touch or analyze if u just open your heart to see with the ears and to hear with the eyes. We are used to see with the eyes, to touch and feel with the skin, to hear with the ears, we observe the world, the people with our conscience which hasn't got the eye for many things.
3.Do u believe in love ? is there a proof of love ? why the line between love and hate is very very thin ????
There are many thing that brought up questions for many generations before us, I hope the next will have the answer.
P.S you are right to ask questions about the religious scripts that are among the people, many of those are hidden, I think the real ones are hidden.Just believe in the good and the light in ur heart.
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sloboda:
Just believe in the good and the light in ur heart.
Just believe in the good and the light in ur heart.
nicely stated
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jono7: i can't speak for 'everyone', and i think i expressed my thoughts about the 'why' in my earlier post.
but your question does have me thinking of the well known expression, 'fear of god'.
interesting... that such an expression would be so well known if fear wasn't there...
i think folks find comfort in believing in a god...and that they find comfort in feeling faith/hope whether it's based in a belief in a god or not.
but your question does have me thinking of the well known expression, 'fear of god'.
interesting... that such an expression would be so well known if fear wasn't there...
i think folks find comfort in believing in a god...and that they find comfort in feeling faith/hope whether it's based in a belief in a god or not.
In my opinion people join religions to have a comfort OK ... but also to belong somewhere (unfortunately many of those are easy targets 4 all sorts of brainwashing ), have hope that hard times have some reason and sense in some time line of one life, to have support of one hard choice in life.It's like we all come here and take a life form to have some experience which we have already agreed to take on us in order to grow.
There's noting wrong in belonging we are made to belong in groups, we are social beings but all of that shouldn't be taken to some unreal level.
As to the fear :) well if people are not scared of the hand of God and it's slow coming than it would be chaos on Earth. There's a good song says "karma is like a woman, comes later on the ball" :) but she will be there :)
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sloboda: In my opinion people join religions to have a comfort OK ... but also to belong somewhere (unfortunately many of those are easy targets 4 all sorts of brainwashing ), have hope that hard times have some reason and sense in some time line of one life, to have support of one hard choice in life.It's like we all come here and take a life form to have some experience which we have already agreed to take on us in order to grow.
There's noting wrong in belonging we are made to belong in groups, we are social beings but all of that shouldn't be taken to some unreal level.
As to the fear :) well if people are not scared of the hand of God and it's slow coming than it would be chaos on Earth. There's a good song says "karma is like a woman, comes later on the ball" :) but she will be there :)
There's noting wrong in belonging we are made to belong in groups, we are social beings but all of that shouldn't be taken to some unreal level.
As to the fear :) well if people are not scared of the hand of God and it's slow coming than it would be chaos on Earth. There's a good song says "karma is like a woman, comes later on the ball" :) but she will be there :)
i agree with much of what you have said.
like you, i also believe in pre agreements.
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jono7: i agree with much of what you have said.
like you, i also believe in pre agreements.
like you, i also believe in pre agreements.
We agree :) God gave us choice and we make a decision, we chose the path and God helps, the GOOD GOD :)
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Talking about evidence,Jesus said to his disciple¨Happy are those who believe and never see¨.God allows some people to see invisible spirit and does not allow others to see such a thing,I can´t explain why? but in my case I becoming a Christian again,after I´ve seen an evil spirit in my room.This is something I don´t wish anybody to see,that experience drew me to God cause I knew about the falling Angel therefore what the bible says is true.
lovely4u7da: You just need more information ,,,,keep searching for answers,,,,,the GOD of Abraham saids to ask for understanding ,wisdom, and knowledge,,,,,I can't show you why or how I believe I just know that there is something higher, greater ,loving ,than what's in this life ,,,,,,I have no evidence that he exists ,,,and you have no evidence that HE does not
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Talking about evidence,Jesus said to his disciple¨Happy are those who believe and never see¨.God allows some people to see invisible spirit and does not allow others to see such a thing,I can´t explain why? but in my case I becoming a Christian again,after I´ve seen an evil spirit in my room.This is something I don´t wish anybody to see,that experience drew me to God cause I knew about the falling Angel therefore what the bible says is true.
lovely4u7da: You just need more information ,,,,keep searching for answers,,,,,the GOD of Abraham saids to ask for understanding ,wisdom, and knowledge,,,,,I can't show you why or how I believe I just know that there is something higher, greater ,loving ,than what's in this life ,,,,,,I have no evidence that he exists ,,,and you have no evidence that HE does not
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michael63ca: Actually for the most part,blind delusional belief in a religion or a god is more of a path to Nihilism. You don't see any atheists going to war to fight for their gods or their beliefs.
What would atheists in the military fight for?
BB_snickers: ..Labels are so conforming. What would you name an entity entities that could concoct such a construct as earth, this solar system, with extremely limited humans who all tend to think that they are the most intelligent beings possible? Zeus? Or perhaps a name that suggests a sense of humor.
What did you say about the origen of the higher intelligence?
BB_snickers: Tony. :-) .
Tony???
I do know Tony and he is not of a higher intelligence unless it is other Tony.
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sloboda: We agree :) God gave us choice and we make a decision, we chose the path and God helps, the GOOD GOD :)
somethings....
again, i think it gets back to one's own interpretation of 'god', which for some of us, is independent of organized religion.
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People will believe anything if you tell it to them often enough. That's why you get the same ads over and over to make sure the message sinks in, that you remember the jingle, etc. Add to that peer pressure and the need to conform; fear of the unknown; helplessness in light of the inevitable (death) and you got the perfect recipe for people to buy into any hokey stuff.
There's also a lot of intellectual laziness going on. It's so much easier to just accept what you're told than to stretch your brain.
There's also a lot of intellectual laziness going on. It's so much easier to just accept what you're told than to stretch your brain.
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Nidifugous: People will believe anything if you tell it to them often enough. That's why you get the same ads over and over to make sure the message sinks in, that you remember the jingle, etc. Add to that peer pressure and the need to conform; fear of the unknown; helplessness in light of the inevitable (death) and you got the perfect recipe for people to buy into any hokey stuff.
There's also a lot of intellectual laziness going on. It's so much easier to just accept what you're told than to stretch your brain.
There's also a lot of intellectual laziness going on. It's so much easier to just accept what you're told than to stretch your brain.
I am not intellectually lazy at all! i just fear that if i am not intellectually lazy, i will become even more popular and smart than people like stephen hawkins, i just hate to be famous
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BigBamaQ: Its an honest question, I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. But as a rational adult I have found no reason to believe in a god. I searched for evidence and found that all evidence points to natural processes and contradicts the bible. I researched other religions and found they held no more truth than Christianity.
I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.
A definition of what I mean by evidence.
ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun
noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.
A definition of what I mean by evidence.
ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun
noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
For some a belief in a god is just that, a belief. However, those who are 'aware' of their god do not need to provide evidence. Awareness is personal, cannot be shared, cannot be taught, it has to be experienced.
Only those who have experienced god, or a higher power, know it's not a matter of belief, it's a state of being, and it's personal.
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bodleing2: For some a belief in a god is just that, a belief. However, those who are 'aware' of their god do not need to provide evidence. Awareness is personal, cannot be shared, cannot be taught, it has to be experienced.
Only those who have experienced god, or a higher power, know it's not a matter of belief, it's a state of being, and it's personal.
Only those who have experienced god, or a higher power, know it's not a matter of belief, it's a state of being, and it's personal.
Yes
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BerrySmoothie: Yes ........again
Thanks, but not a quote this time...
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bodleing2: For some a belief in a god is just that, a belief. However, those who are 'aware' of their god do not need to provide evidence. Awareness is personal, cannot be shared, cannot be taught, it has to be experienced.
Only those who have experienced god, or a higher power, know it's not a matter of belief, it's a state of being, and it's personal.
Only those who have experienced god, or a higher power, know it's not a matter of belief, it's a state of being, and it's personal.
me no speak english..me no understand. yes..yes...gud..gud
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bodleing2: Thanks, but not a quote this time...
I know
I couldn't have said it better myself.
My views entirely.
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practicing a religion requires faith.
but so does practicing many other things require faith...when you enter a relationship with other, you have faith in that or you wouldn't enter into it. does that make you gullible? me thinks not...it's usually only labelled gullible after one's expectations are not met.
faith gives hope, and hope is very powerful. hope is that belief that your expectations will be met. hope alleviates fear.
when one feels 'faith, they feel 'hope',
when one feels 'hope', they feel 'trust'.
love <---------------->fear
trust<---------------->fear
hope <---------------->fear
jmo
So everyone go for religion because of fear?