Why would anyone believe in a god? ( Archived) (145)

Feb 25, 2015 10:23 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
Its an honest question, I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. But as a rational adult I have found no reason to believe in a god. I searched for evidence and found that all evidence points to natural processes and contradicts the bible. I researched other religions and found they held no more truth than Christianity.

I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.

A definition of what I mean by evidence.

ev·i·dence


/'ev?d?ns/


noun

noun: evidence



1.


the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"


synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
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Feb 25, 2015 10:36 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
I find it so cool. Things as our body temp.98.6 ???How is that? Such a winding nervous system, our veins, arteries. GENIUS ? The journey one chooses is the choice made. Read books, Listen, It just happens. Some are in to it more then others. If you are not open at the top. Life, the questions, can be misleading, . I know I am God individualized. We are all one, God is a verb. PEACE HH
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Feb 26, 2015 7:33 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
heatherhuntsman: I find it so cool. Things as our body temp.98.6 ???How is that? Such a winding nervous system, our veins, arteries. GENIUS ? The journey one chooses is the choice made. Read books, Listen, It just happens. Some are in to it more then others. If you are not open at the top. Life, the questions, can be misleading, . I know I am God individualized. We are all one, God is a verb. PEACE HH


If you say so....doh
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Feb 26, 2015 7:51 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Comfort in the face of oblivion.

Atheism strike me as being the most delusional. There's nothing more pretentiously delusional than rationality feigned. You really are kidding yourself to think that the Human spirit is anything like a computer, robot, logic box or anything else that Atheism and the Enlightenment makes it out to be.

Yes, you may get the Richard Dawkins and people with autism who can be true to Atheism, but for the most part Atheism merely blazes new pathways to Nihilism.
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Feb 26, 2015 8:18 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Comfort in the face of oblivion.

Atheism strike me as being the most delusional. There's nothing more pretentiously delusional than rationality feigned. You really are kidding yourself to think that the Human spirit is anything like a computer, robot, logic box or anything else that Atheism and the Enlightenment makes it out to be.

Yes, you may get the Richard Dawkins and people with autism who can be true to Atheism, but for the most part Atheism merely blazes new pathways to Nihilism.


And the funny thing is that the more scientifically astute and up to date you are the more you now distance yourself from Atheism. The cults of science at one time pulled people away from God, but now science is teaching us just how rational we are not and just how indispensable the quality of faith is. The irony is that the rational evidence is now saying that people should not be all that rational.
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Feb 26, 2015 8:43 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: And the funny thing is that the more scientifically astute and up to date you are the more you now distance yourself from Atheism. The cults of science at one time pulled people away from God, but now science is teaching us just how rational we are not and just how indispensable the quality of faith is. The irony is that the rational evidence is now saying that people should not be all that rational.


In other words the Atheist position has eaten itself. Science is now proving that much of what the old religion warned us of about Atheism is all too real.

The Pope saying that people who don't have kids are selfish - that's not a popular thing to say to a self-absorbed populace, but it's scientifically valid: The rate of NPD amongst childless women skyrockets. The world has a fantastic sense of humour when it's the head of the Catholic Church fighting the corner of unpopular science to a mass of delusionals who refuse to accept fact.
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Feb 26, 2015 11:29 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ: Its an honest question, I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. But as a rational adult I have found no reason to believe in a god. I searched for evidence and found that all evidence points to natural processes and contradicts the bible. I researched other religions and found they held no more truth than Christianity.

I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.

A definition of what I mean by evidence.

ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun

noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
That is their business, To debate a positive, is too prove a negative. Not a valid foundation. PEACE HH I know God, I stated this before God is a verb.
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Feb 26, 2015 2:31 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
Obstinance_Works: And the funny thing is that the more scientifically astute and up to date you are the more you now distance yourself from Atheism. The cults of science at one time pulled people away from God, but now science is teaching us just how rational we are not and just how indispensable the quality of faith is. The irony is that the rational evidence is now saying that people should not be all that rational.


Absolutely untrue, the more educated and up to date as you put it the more likely you are to be atheist.

The reason I don't believe is because there is no evidence for a god. Given peer reviewed evidence I would believe but certainly would not worship the god of Abraham. I could not worship such an immoral being.
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Feb 26, 2015 2:38 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Comfort in the face of oblivion.

Atheism strike me as being the most delusional. There's nothing more pretentiously delusional than rationality feigned. You really are kidding yourself to think that the Human spirit is anything like a computer, robot, logic box or anything else that Atheism and the Enlightenment makes it out to be.

Yes, you may get the Richard Dawkins and people with autism who can be true to Atheism, but for the most part Atheism merely blazes new pathways to Nihilism.
You make lots of assertions but I don't see anything backing you up. For instance your reference to a spirit. Could you offer evidence that such a thing exist?
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Feb 26, 2015 3:01 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Your question is:Why would anyone believe in a God?


A religious person would probably ask Why would anyone not believe in God?


Although I was baptized as a child to be under the Catholic faith but after I reached adulthood I chose not to follow the Catholic faith.
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Feb 26, 2015 3:09 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
Ccincy: Your question is:Why would anyone believe in a God?A religious person would probably ask Why would anyone not believe in God?Although I was baptized as a child to be under the Catholic faith but after I reached adulthood I chose not to follow the Catholic faith.


I thought I gave my reason for none belief. But, lack of evidence is a big one and then the evidence available that points to natural processes. And then there is the "evil" or I should say horrible things in the bible condoned and often ordered by the god of Abraham...
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Feb 26, 2015 3:17 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
BigBamaQ: I thought I gave my reason for none belief. But, lack of evidence is a big one and then the evidence available that points to natural processes. And then there is the "evil" or I should say horrible things in the bible condoned and often ordered by the god of Abraham...





BigBamQ I know you gave your reason for none belief.

I was saying what someone who did believe would probably ask you.
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Feb 26, 2015 3:29 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
BigBamaQ: I thought I gave my reason for none belief. But, lack of evidence is a big one and then the evidence available that points to natural processes. And then there is the "evil" or I should say horrible things in the bible condoned and often ordered by the god of Abraham...



Judging from the your comments, methinks "art" is what you talking about, as you are "mixing" religions, God, "bible" and "Abraham..". but nothing like assuming your position intelligently..... btw, when it can't be proven __________ ?..... (feel free to complete the sentence)
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Feb 26, 2015 3:33 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
Do all the atheists who criticise religion not celebrate Christmas and Easter?
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Feb 26, 2015 8:09 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
BigBamaQ: Absolutely untrue, the more educated and up to date as you put it the more likely you are to be atheist.

The reason I don't believe is because there is no evidence for a god. Given peer reviewed evidence I would believe but certainly would not worship the god of Abraham. I could not worship such an immoral being.
There are an awful lot of hihgly educated, well informed people in this world that believe in a higher intelligence. Your debate is therefore flawed.
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Feb 26, 2015 8:23 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
Whether there is a god or not, the focus should be on just trying to be a decent person in life.
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Feb 26, 2015 8:59 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
BigBamaQ: Its an honest question, I was once a believer because I was indoctrinated as a child. But as a rational adult I have found no reason to believe in a god. I searched for evidence and found that all evidence points to natural processes and contradicts the bible. I researched other religions and found they held no more truth than Christianity.

I understand that faith is the basis for belief in a deity. While faith is belief without evidence which to me means gullibility. I don't intend to offend but this is how it appears to me.

A definition of what I mean by evidence. one word for you
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ev·i·dence/'ev?d?ns/noun

noun: evidence
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
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Feb 26, 2015 9:40 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
lovely4u7da
lovely4u7dalovely4u7dachicago, Illinois USA32 Threads 1,337 Posts
You just need more information ,,,,keep searching for answers,,,,,the GOD of Abraham saids to ask for understanding ,wisdom, and knowledge,,,,,I can't show you why or how I believe I just know that there is something higher, greater ,loving ,than what's in this life ,,,,,,I have no evidence that he exists ,,,and you have no evidence that HE does not
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Feb 27, 2015 2:16 PM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Mar 9, 2015 12:55 AM CST Why would anyone believe in a god?
SandraYelitzza2
SandraYelitzza2SandraYelitzza2Midlothian, Texas USA23 Threads 449 Posts
I agree with u. I was also indoctrinated. I was raised catholic, now atheist. I really don't find a way why to believe there is a God, after all, it's just a hear say and there has never been any proof of its existence, as u mentioned above. But I think religious folks should not REJECT science in order to prove that there is a God. After all, we all revolve around science because science has proven many things, but it has also constructed technology. Those folks who REJECT science in order to prove that there is a God, should not be sitting in front of a computer right now, if they are, then shame on them, because guess what?? That's science. Science = Technology. If they still reject science, maybe they should bathe in the river, and not their showers/bath tubes, once again, that was built based on science. Or maybe not use electricity at all, sit in front of a fire place. Or maybe not use their cell phones at all!! they can send each other smoke signals. Otherwise, I don't see why religious folks should reject science wen in fact they embrace it!!! they love science!! so I think they need to start doing us a favor in not opposing science unless I see them living out in the open without technology... :)
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