lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
jac_the_gripper: It means that it's unlikely I'm the only person in the whole of Britain, or the world who is well educated and working in a fast food outlet.
To state that people who serve in fast food outlets are 'morons' (with a mental age of 7-12 years according to an an outdated classification model) comes across as judgemental and ill-informed.
Fast food is just an inexpensive option but sometimes fast-food can be good.
Being at London I do remember: Pret a Manger which was very good, inexpensive and fast, also I do remember (in London as well) some middle east food places with great food like Falafel and other dishes.
I would not pay attention to a moron talking about morons, even if he is an expert
The thing is, it is the same Federally(here) inspected Beef one would get in any Restaurant, with probably less people coming into contact with it. Yet we pay huge prices at the Restaurant believing it is better.
if you’ve been following my “Not Lovin’ It” series on ingredients in McDonald’s foods, you’ve already seen some disgusting and shocking ingredients in McNuggets and French fries. Many people contacted me to ask “what’s in those burgers?” I have to admit, even though I haven’t eaten a McDonald’s burger in many years, I too have wondered what’s in them. Before I share information from McDonald’s own ingredient lists, let’s consider the processing of their burgers.
There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products. According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says. As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.
Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.
Here are the burger ingredients:
Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef. The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing. It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.
Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).” Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.
Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity. “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods. Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing.
Mustard—”vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, spices.” Again, we have no way of knowing whether “spices” contain MSG, which is a well-established excitotoxin (contrary to what some comments on my other articles have indicated). Excitotoxins are just what they sound like: toxic chemicals that literally excite brain and nervous system cells until they die off. Here are a couple examples for the skeptics: A study in the journal Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology found that MSG significantly increased fibromyalgia pain. Scientists concluded “dietary glutamate may be contributing to FM (fibromyalgia) symptoms in some patients.” Another study in the journal Brain Research found that giving MSG to animals caused them to have seizures.
Onions—dehydrated onions. Is it too much to ask that they use fresh onions that actually have some nutritional value?
Pickle Slices—include “cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).” Some of these ingredients are fairly obvious. Potassium sorbate has been shown in human studies to be both genotoxic and mutagenic. That means it damages the genetic material and can cause mutations linked to disease. Polysorbate 80 is a suspected carcinogen. Turmeric is a spice.
Regular Bun—”enriched wheat flour, water, sugar and/or glucose-fructose, yeast, vegetable oil (soybean and/or canola), salt, calcium sulphate, calcium propionate, monoglycerides, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, and may contain any or all of the following in varying proportions: diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides, BHT, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, wheat starch, calcium peroxide, wheat gluten, inactive yeast, sorbitol, dextrin, malted barley flour, ascorbic acid, citric acid, calcium stearate, calcium iodate, silicon dioxide.” Whew! Considering that bread can be made with flour and water (not even yeast is essential since true sourdoughs don’t need it), that’s a disturbing number of ingredients–28 possible ingredients just in the bun!
More about the bun ingredients:
BHT—a known neurotoxin (substance that is toxic to the brain and nervous system), a hormone disruptor, immune system toxin, and irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs.
Diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides (DATEM)—This is a synthetically-created “stabilizing ingredient” that is usually made from vegetable oils but can also contain animal fat like pork.
Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate—not much is really known about the safety of this ingredient. Since it can be sourced from dairy products, there is a potential risk of allergy for those with dairy allergies.
Most of the other ingredients are widely-used in food processing even though there is little research on their long-term and cumulative effects.
The more I research MickeyD’s food, the more I’m definitely NOT lovin’ it! What about you? Are you lovin’ it?
purr4mance: Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
if you’ve been following my “Not Lovin’ It” series on ingredients in McDonald’s foods, you’ve already seen some disgusting and shocking ingredients in McNuggets and French fries. Many people contacted me to ask “what’s in those burgers?” I have to admit, even though I haven’t eaten a McDonald’s burger in many years, I too have wondered what’s in them. Before I share information from McDonald’s own ingredient lists, let’s consider the processing of their burgers.
There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products. According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says. As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.
Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.
Here are the burger ingredients:
Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef. The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing. It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.
Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).” Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.
Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity. “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods. Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
chris27292729: You mean junk food!!
I think junk food is probably more appropriate with the international audience, some foods which are prepared quickly are good and tasty. The English term usually refers to the low nutitious high fat food.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
purr4mance: Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
if you’ve been following my “Not Lovin’ It” series on ingredients in McDonald’s foods, you’ve already seen some disgusting and shocking ingredients in McNuggets and French fries. Many people contacted me to ask “what’s in those burgers?” I have to admit, even though I haven’t eaten a McDonald’s burger in many years, I too have wondered what’s in them. Before I share information from McDonald’s own ingredient lists, let’s consider the processing of their burgers.
There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products. According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says. As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.
Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.
Here are the burger ingredients:
Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef. The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing. It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.
Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).” Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.
Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity. “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods. Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing.
lifeisadream: People get overweight by eating other foods as well.
life I learned long ago that it isn't always the food that is fattening it is what someone chooses to put on it.
All the fat free junk that the manufacturers claim are fat free isn't all that true. Salt free isn't really salt free either.Sugar free is no better in claims.
They replace the good stuff that a body needs to survive and replace it with ingredients that can/may be harmful.
It is how people choose to cook what they choose to eat.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Ccincy: life I learned long ago that it isn't always the food that is fattening it is what someone chooses to put on it.All the fat free junk that the manufacturers claim are fat free isn't all that true. Salt free isn't really salt free either.Sugar free is no better in claims.They replace the good stuff that a body needs to survive and replace it with ingredients that can/may be harmful.
It is how people choose to cook what they choose to eat.
CC The proportions of the ingredients are the key to a healthy diet...
All food is made of: carbs, proteins, lipids + vitamins+ minerals...
Eating Junk food on daily bases is not healthy (never my own choice) but the food per se will not make a person fat if they take smaller portions.
Fast food is not the best choice as a daily meal for my taste but look at some of the Great Chefs that eat “Michelin Star Food” and some are overweight.
Junk food, Fast food or Michelin Star food can make people fat if they eat more than they can "chew".
jac_the_gripper: It means that it's unlikely I'm the only person in the whole of Britain, or the world who is well educated and working in a fast food outlet.
To state that people who serve in fast food outlets are 'morons' (with a mental age of 7-12 years according to an an outdated classification model) comes across as judgemental and ill-informed.
They're educated morons. A British graduate working in a fast food outlet must be decadently oblivious to reality to choose a degree that worthless to the world. And spending even more money on this useless education makes them a super moron.
I rarely do take away, but when I do, fresh Mex, Qdoba. Fresh, veggies,low carb, no chemical additives, healthier than those aertery clogging fast food chains, and so friggin' delicious.
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