How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others? ( Archived) (37)

Nov 10, 2016 1:06 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Y'know Lindsy, while the USA has been exporting jobs, increasing it's absolute reliance on Chinese imports, spending billions on FEMA camps, buying enough ammunition for HS to last a hundred years of 'average use to date' and bombing the crap out of any country that didn't want to play by 'YOUR Rules' and radically reducing the standard of living of the US middle and working classes Mr Putin has quietly supported Russian manufacturing, supported the Russian car industry, seen VW and other automakers build plants in Russia, overseen a large number of infrastructure projects in the country, hauled many of the countries business leaders over the coals and told then 'PAY YOUR TAXES', he's removed the corrupt US Seven Sisters oil cartel from Russia and ended the unfair 'product sharing agreements', he's rid Russia of many of the (esp US) NGOs that were in fact creating anti Russian propaganda in the country and he's considerably improved BOTH the countries economic status while at the same improving the incomes and dtandards of living of the Russian people ... and he's working on 're-Russianising the Russian constitution after Gorbachev allowed American 'advisors' to 'americanise' it.

And I guess the Big Thing over any wester / european leader or politician is that he has a genuine and sincere love for the the Russian people and they love him back!

The question was 'Have you heard him speak or do you rely on the opinions of others in the press for your opinion' ... plainly you;re in the latter category eh ?

Putin works on values ... to date ( certainly since Eissehower handed over the reins) the US Govt have only looked at the monetary value of the next deal, how far they could meddle in the affairs of sovereign states and who they could con next by inserting puppet leaders!

You have to recall that The Big Baddies of the last 30 years were US trained inserts ... Osama Bin Laden was trained by the CIA and was waging a proxy war in Afghanistan ... when Regan conned Gorbachev the CIA stopped paying him, cut off his supplies and figured he'd be killed in short order - hmmm, so much for the Central INTELLIGENCE Agency eh ? And don't think he was ever 'really' the enemy ... the Bin Laden family ( his parents and siblings have massive business links with the Bush family and were at the Bush ranch when 9/11 went down. The ONLY plane to fly after the grounding order made was ... yup, the Bin Laden family jet!

Likewise Saddam Hussein was a US puppet ... but he was planning a move to trade oil in Euros and that would have broken the monopoly of the petro-dollar - so (obviously) he too had to be demonised ... you recall the Bush-Blair 'Westminster Agreement' in which they fabricated a story about a train that had a cargo of portable toilets being laden with WMD.

Trump and Putin have RESPECT for one another - that in itself is a step towards a more peaceful world !

I'm glad to see that many in the USA are wakening to the truth ... and I hope the veil over your eyes will be lifted soon too !
Don't know about all that , what I do know if you picked a fight with Putin in a pub somebody would have to be carried home .
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Nov 10, 2016 2:30 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
You can listen to Putin pledging to restore America Russia relations on this link



just click on the green arrow
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Nov 10, 2016 3:15 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
robplum: You can listen to Putin pledging to restore America Russia relations on this link



just click on the green arrow


Did Trump promise him eastern europe? Putin is a dictator with world domination as his goal. Trump is an insane con artist. Putin knows this and hopes to exploit it. It reminds me of Bush, " I looked in his eyes and could tell he wwas a good man". What a fool.
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Nov 10, 2016 5:06 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
jt972
jt972jt972dublin, Dublin Ireland7 Threads 1,200 Posts
KremaP: Oh Lindsy,
visiting some places in Russia is a must, believe me...
I don't know why you see it so different, principle wise?!
Can you believe that there are people who despise your country? And how does it make you feel?
From my own experience I know that the propaganda is still extremely strong from your side, I think your government wants you to fear and hate Russia so they can do whatever they want and get away with it...


I've been invited to stay at lake baikal
Looks one of the most beautiful places
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Nov 10, 2016 6:16 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
raphael119: Did Trump promise him eastern europe? Putin is a dictator with world domination as his goal. Trump is an insane con artist. Putin knows this and hopes to exploit it. It reminds me of Bush, " I looked in his eyes and could tell he wwas a good man". What a fool.


Raphael ... you really must be one of the bigger idiots on this site.

What ( apart your own deluded thinking and US Main Stream news that promotes paranoia through the dual notions of 'If You're Not With Us Then You're Against Us' ( which I probably need to point out is a) an attempt at denying sovereign nations the right to their own opinions) and the Clinton foolishness of 'US IS GOOD' which implies that the Obamas administration was incapable of being wrong about anything and never did harm to anyone ( I forget the EXACT clinical terms but its under the general category of delusional insanity )

So, you claim Mr Putin is a dictator with world domination as his goal eh ?

OK ... well at least let class have the rationale for your rabid rantings ...

Meanwhile I'll ask

1) How many wars has the USA been involved in versus how many have Russia been involved in since Mr Putin has been in power ?

2) How has the Russian economy performed since he became Russian President ... and is that better or worse than the USA ( even under the burden of the US illegal sanctions - illegal as none have been approved by the UN by the way)

3) What drugs are you one and do you make a habit of skipping or exceeding the doses ?

Have a hug from Teddy teddybear
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Nov 10, 2016 2:21 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
raphael119: Did Trump promise him eastern europe? Putin is a dictator with world domination as his goal. Trump is an insane con artist. Putin knows this and hopes to exploit it. It reminds me of Bush, " I looked in his eyes and could tell he wwas a good man". What a fool.


No I believe Trump is correctly reading international affairs.

The American Republican Party using appropriation-bills funded terrorist organisations in Syria, it wasn't Obama that did that, he was undermined by the criminal activities of the senate and congress whom Obama had no (has) no control over.

I disagree with your assumptions about Putin is a dictator, though there are certainly some limits to the sought of democratic process in implemented in Russia.
President Putin is the democratically elected President of a Russian form of Democracy.
It was America and the completely mad N.A.T.O. commander, coupled with the lies put out about the extent of Russian involvement in the downing of MH17, that saw America & European countries impose sanctions against Russia.
After American activities played out in Greece and Crete France, then Germany finally opened discussions with Russia.
America's response was to attack Chancellor Angela Merkel and continue support for those scumbags in West Ukraine that murdered among others, thirty eight Australians a West Ukraine government supported by liars here in Australia to.

Donald Trump is just correctly saying there won't be an American inspired WW3 following Regan's New World Order of 1984 and Bush unprovoked attack on Iraq in 1991, no no Trump is in my opinion doing the right thing and lunatic sheep in this and other countries who sucked up to McCain and Co just got a clowns-wake-up call
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Nov 10, 2016 2:48 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
Yes, on many occasions...and I understand/read/speak Russian, so nothing is lost in translation. He at times speaks well, and other times....well, unlike Stalin who drank muck vodka....he seems to miss the USSR. There is a great deal of history that is unknown and not understood about Russia....not the this gives them free reign....however,...do not judge ever so quickly. LOL....in pretty good shape as well he is....our PM Trudeau is a match for him on the beach....not so sure about Donald J....needs some time in a tanning booth! lol
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Nov 10, 2016 2:52 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
jt972
jt972jt972dublin, Dublin Ireland7 Threads 1,200 Posts
DaMooseLives: Yes, on many occasions...and I understand/read/speak Russian, so nothing is lost in translation. He at times speaks well, and other times....well, unlike Stalin who drank muck vodka....he seems to miss the USSR. There is a great deal of history that is unknown and not understood about Russia....not the this gives them free reign....however,...do not judge ever so quickly. LOL....in pretty good shape as well he is....our PM Trudeau is a match for him on the beach....not so sure about Donald J....needs some time in a tanning booth! lol


My Russian girlfriend said she loved lift
In the ussr, it became unbearable under
American lapdog Gorbachev
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Nov 10, 2016 3:56 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
jt972: My Russian girlfriend said she loved lift
In the ussr, it became unbearable under
American lapdog Gorbachev


yup

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Nov 22, 2016 3:11 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
Bonkers_
Bonkers_Bonkers_Cap. Fed., Buenos Aires Argentina1 Threads 1 Polls 81 Posts
Putin is hot. Me love him long time...smitten
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Feb 26, 2017 8:53 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
HexagonKeySet: I wonder how many will actually take time to hear it direct from the horses mouth so to speak for themselves ?


Me not.

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Feb 26, 2017 3:47 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
NATO rolling up on russias border as well as the soros
instigated riots and mccain's involvement should tell
you everything ya need to know...the khazars/bolshevics
believe they still have a score to settle...its all about banking and
control/sovereignty.

but the US shares the space station with cosmonauts, Russian soldiers
still train on US soil, and personally the US home grown commie
neolibs and neocon warmongers are a much larger threat to the world than russia.

russia is not rioting in the streets anywhere...like the lucy's are in the US burning buildings, busting windows, beating up old women or acting batshyyt crazy like the lefty luciferians/lucy's are...the russians are not trying to disarm american citizens or censor free speech like the lucy's are. AND we can definitely blame the violence on Soros and his bolshevic friends who are Russias enemy as well.
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Mar 2, 2017 5:13 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
KremaP: Oh Lindsy,
visiting some places in Russia is a must, believe me...
I don't know why you see it so different, principle wise?!
Can you believe that there are people who despise your country? And how does it make you feel?
From my own experience I know that the propaganda is still extremely strong from your side, I think your government wants you to fear and hate Russia so they can do whatever they want and get away with it...



Absolutely, after all, they need an enemy, otherwise all that military spending might come into question. Can't have the industrial military complex going hungry, they might have to eat their own. laugh

I'm not surprised that you didn't get a reply from her. roll eyes


wave
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Mar 5, 2017 5:20 PM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
GUZMAN1: Me not.


Then, I guess someone gave you all of your opinions on everything!

cheers
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Mar 13, 2017 7:27 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
kidatheart: Absolutely, after all, they need an enemy, otherwise all that military spending might come into question. Can't have the industrial military complex going hungry, they might have to eat their own.

I'm not surprised that you didn't get a reply from her.



Still nothing.....perhaps her handlers won't let her speak about such topics. roll eyes
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Mar 13, 2017 7:37 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
BritishLondon
BritishLondonBritishLondonManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK323 Posts
My strongest opinion comes from my Russian-Ukrainian ex-girlfriend and the opinion was that Putin is right for Russia because Russians are scumbags. Russian men in particular have little self-discipline and no self-determination and so they need that strongman to marshal them into line. They need someone to fear. Russians are thuggish on the one hand, and yet jellyfish on the other. She also said Ukraine was more a part of Russia than Europe by a long, long way.
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Mar 13, 2017 8:14 AM CST How many people have actually heard Mr Putin speak - vs got their opinion from others?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Seems to me ... maybe he's not such a bad bloke after all ?

The link attaches to a video where he explains to mainstream western journalist 'what the problem is...'



There's subtitles in english ... and, I wonder how many will actually take time to hear it direct from the horses mouth so to speak for themselves ?


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