What a great speech: I don 't represent the world, I represent America (178)
rizlared: That statement is untrue, and worse, it is wholly misleading on purpose to malign the former President.
Here are the numbers:
By January 2009, the United States had accumulated $10.6 trillion in debt. That's the net amount the country had borrowed from Washington through the Bush years.
The gross national debt now stands at $19.7 trillion. That's an increase of $9.1 trillion — not quite a doubling. So completely untrue that Obama borrowed more than all the other Presidents combined.
While the large increase in borrowing occurred "under Obama," it's an overstatement to blame Obama's actions as the sole cause of the ballooning debt, as the debt would have risen by $3 trillion because of tax and spending policies that were already in place. Plus, the Great Recession drove up spending on safety net programs, such as Medicaid and food stamps, without the president or Congress doing a thing. But was caused by the Bushes administration allowing the Banks free reign.
This is not to say that Obama had zero impact on the debt during his two terms in office. His 2009 stimulus plan and his making most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in 2012 contributed to the debt. But the 2011 Budget Control Act, which curbed government spending, helped slow the projected growth in debt.
One should also keep in mind, that Obama can't take any financial steps without Congress' approval. And Republicans controlled the House for six years of his term and the Senate for two years.
Here are the numbers:
By January 2009, the United States had accumulated $10.6 trillion in debt. That's the net amount the country had borrowed from Washington through the Bush years.
The gross national debt now stands at $19.7 trillion. That's an increase of $9.1 trillion — not quite a doubling. So completely untrue that Obama borrowed more than all the other Presidents combined.
While the large increase in borrowing occurred "under Obama," it's an overstatement to blame Obama's actions as the sole cause of the ballooning debt, as the debt would have risen by $3 trillion because of tax and spending policies that were already in place. Plus, the Great Recession drove up spending on safety net programs, such as Medicaid and food stamps, without the president or Congress doing a thing. But was caused by the Bushes administration allowing the Banks free reign.
This is not to say that Obama had zero impact on the debt during his two terms in office. His 2009 stimulus plan and his making most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in 2012 contributed to the debt. But the 2011 Budget Control Act, which curbed government spending, helped slow the projected growth in debt.
One should also keep in mind, that Obama can't take any financial steps without Congress' approval. And Republicans controlled the House for six years of his term and the Senate for two years.
I wanted to avoid this but the numbers are spun heavily. They don't tell of the job costing regulations, taxes, and laws that cut jobs and basically killed the 40 hour work week in some job markets, which is still dead. It doesn't mention other controls that WEREN'T used to help growth. The article is a flossed over lie.
Explain obozo's 1.6% growth rate in the whole eight years and how a nation, the U.S., went from #6 in 2009, to #17 in 2017, for economic freedom. We can watch good paying jobs being cut by thousands every year from regulations but government funding to select "markets" at will. Especially in the "energy fields". It hurt the medical fields quite a bit too. Many mergers to survive, even a hospital in my own area. There's that cronyism working again....
Government only controls job growth in the private sector through regulations, laws, and taxes. It's the private sector that creates most jobs.
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I don't think any of his speeches have fallen short so far.
He's one trying to keep his promises which is a heck of a lot more than we can say for other representatives, especially the one before.
With DEregulation taking place, the middle class will be coming back as job markets are allowed to actually grow again, across almost all fields. Even more opportunity for lower income to increase as well.
More time though. Trade, immigration, healthcare. I wish they would just allow health care companies to compete and leave the idea of "national" alone. Keep the no one can be turned down clause. That's the only one that had any merit. Government can't manage such a thing as "national healthcare". They haven't even managed the social security idea correctly.
He's one trying to keep his promises which is a heck of a lot more than we can say for other representatives, especially the one before.
With DEregulation taking place, the middle class will be coming back as job markets are allowed to actually grow again, across almost all fields. Even more opportunity for lower income to increase as well.
More time though. Trade, immigration, healthcare. I wish they would just allow health care companies to compete and leave the idea of "national" alone. Keep the no one can be turned down clause. That's the only one that had any merit. Government can't manage such a thing as "national healthcare". They haven't even managed the social security idea correctly.
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Draegoneer: I wanted to avoid this but the numbers are spun heavily. They don't tell of the job costing regulations, taxes, and laws that cut jobs and basically killed the 40 hour work week in some job markets, which is still dead. It doesn't mention other controls that WEREN'T used to help growth. The article is a flossed over lie.
Explain obozo's 1.6% growth rate in the whole eight years and how a nation, the U.S., went from #6 in 2009, to #17 in 2017, for economic freedom. We can watch good paying jobs being cut by thousands every year from regulations but government funding to select "markets" at will. Especially in the "energy fields". It hurt the medical fields quite a bit too. Many mergers to survive, even a hospital in my own area. There's that cronyism working again....
Government only controls job growth in the private sector through regulations, laws, and taxes. It's the private sector that creates most jobs.
Explain obozo's 1.6% growth rate in the whole eight years and how a nation, the U.S., went from #6 in 2009, to #17 in 2017, for economic freedom. We can watch good paying jobs being cut by thousands every year from regulations but government funding to select "markets" at will. Especially in the "energy fields". It hurt the medical fields quite a bit too. Many mergers to survive, even a hospital in my own area. There's that cronyism working again....
Government only controls job growth in the private sector through regulations, laws, and taxes. It's the private sector that creates most jobs.
Your premises are straight out of fantasy land.
Remember the great recession? Obama tried to get infrastructure programs and the Republican Congress blocked him ever time. Things are much better now, but Trump has had nothing to do with it. He cant even get his own house in order. Worldwide laughing stock and may be a traitor.
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The trade relationship between Canada and the US is the largest on the planet. An all-out trade war would benefit neither side. I shall leave my comments at that! 
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lindsyjones: What a great speech. Interrupted about 94 times with applause, I could see how our country is ready to work in unity and achieve greatness as he promised in his campaign.
Three basic but major issue that he touched: To protect our borders instead of other countries.
To refuse to support illegal immigrants at the expense of our needy people. 40 percent of Americans live in poverty and we are losing the great Middle Class.
No more Free trade: Imagine, we get taxed for highly when we sell our products to foreign countries while we don't tax foreign trades to sell to our country.. Imagine the impact on that.
Obama's 8 years of administration has incurred more debt that all the presidents combined.
The highlight for me is: "We might be divided in policies but we are united against hate and all it's ugly forms.
Even Sanders was clapping and some Democrats.
Three basic but major issue that he touched: To protect our borders instead of other countries.
To refuse to support illegal immigrants at the expense of our needy people. 40 percent of Americans live in poverty and we are losing the great Middle Class.
No more Free trade: Imagine, we get taxed for highly when we sell our products to foreign countries while we don't tax foreign trades to sell to our country.. Imagine the impact on that.
Obama's 8 years of administration has incurred more debt that all the presidents combined.
The highlight for me is: "We might be divided in policies but we are united against hate and all it's ugly forms.
Even Sanders was clapping and some Democrats.
...as he bombs Syria!!
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raphael119: Your premises are straight out of fantasy land.
Remember the great recession? Obama tried to get infrastructure programs and the Republican Congress blocked him ever time. Things are much better now, but Trump has had nothing to do with it. He cant even get his own house in order. Worldwide laughing stock and may be a traitor.
Remember the great recession? Obama tried to get infrastructure programs and the Republican Congress blocked him ever time. Things are much better now, but Trump has had nothing to do with it. He cant even get his own house in order. Worldwide laughing stock and may be a traitor.
all hail Obama the Savior,the Savior!
BTW,the Traitor in the WH was fired in Nov.2016,and the other one got trounced for being so lousy,even Chuckie Schumer had to admit that!
<you're so out of touch it's astonishing. Your party has lost everything. You have absolutely no power outside of Illinois (a real dumpster fire), CA, and the North East. People are leaving all three areas in droves. You have lost election after election in local, state, and national venues yet you continue to bury your head. This is why we're winning and will keep winning. You call him a buffoon? What is Maxine Waters? Liawatha Warren? Bernie "I got rich off telling people they can get free stuff" Sanders? What is Nancy Pelosi? That's your party, dude! LOL! Personally, I hope they keep it up...they're really doing a great job leading, right to the top of the garbage heap. You were going to win four special elections that would be a referendum on Trump. Didn't happen. Your radical ANTIFA party are *actual* fascists. You look the other way. Your liberal colleges are wasting away. Once, Berkeley was the place where free speech won one of it's biggest victories. Now, it's the bastion of liberal intolerance of anyone who doesn't think like them. Free speech? Only for me, not for thee... You really need to rethink your party affiliation, unless of course, you like losing and standing with a bunch of crybabies.<
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Conrad is much too excitable. Trump's so far down his fans think its up.
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HexagonKeySet: Yes, but actually Lindsy he only paraphrased what Mr Putin said some years ago when asked by German journalists if he were a friend or foe of the west
Putin " I am not your friend, I am not your bride or your groom, I am president of Russia a country of 146million people who have certain national interests ... national interests are not the same as personal friendship"
Putin " I am not your friend, I am not your bride or your groom, I am president of Russia a country of 146million people who have certain national interests ... national interests are not the same as personal friendship"
That's true to every country Hex, but the reality is we're all interconnected with economic and political interests.
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Draegoneer: I wanted to avoid this but the numbers are spun heavily. They don't tell of the job costing regulations, taxes, and laws that cut jobs and basically killed the 40 hour work week in some job markets, which is still dead. It doesn't mention other controls that WEREN'T used to help growth. The article is a flossed over lie.
Explain obozo's 1.6% growth rate in the whole eight years and how a nation, the U.S., went from #6 in 2009, to #17 in 2017, for economic freedom. We can watch good paying jobs being cut by thousands every year from regulations but government funding to select "markets" at will. Especially in the "energy fields". It hurt the medical fields quite a bit too. Many mergers to survive, even a hospital in my own area. There's that cronyism working again....
Government only controls job growth in the private sector through regulations, laws, and taxes. It's the private sector that creates most jobs.
Explain obozo's 1.6% growth rate in the whole eight years and how a nation, the U.S., went from #6 in 2009, to #17 in 2017, for economic freedom. We can watch good paying jobs being cut by thousands every year from regulations but government funding to select "markets" at will. Especially in the "energy fields". It hurt the medical fields quite a bit too. Many mergers to survive, even a hospital in my own area. There's that cronyism working again....
Government only controls job growth in the private sector through regulations, laws, and taxes. It's the private sector that creates most jobs.
You couldn't have said it any clearer Dragon, imagine from number 6 to 17.
I can definitely conclude that he's a traitor, and have sold our interest to benefit the Islam goals. How? Simple, had he succeeded in weakening us to annihilation, voila, the calipation, domination and invasion of his Islamic roots would have materialized faster than we have anticipated.
Thanks for the clarification.
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BritishLondon: The problem with Trump is that he soaks up the emotions of his audience like a sponge. Like a true narcissist he is entirely what you make of him and therefore in a sense nothing Trump does is ever his fault.
To get Trump to work politically you need to get the people who like Trump to get on with the people who don't like Trump. For the moment liberals are running around with their fingers in their ears whilst Trumpsters don't even blink. Nothing good can come of that.
To get Trump to work politically you need to get the people who like Trump to get on with the people who don't like Trump. For the moment liberals are running around with their fingers in their ears whilst Trumpsters don't even blink. Nothing good can come of that.
yea,Chesney,he constantly keeps repeating himself over and over and over and over and over and over again!
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online today!......MY MESSAGE FROM BRITAIN....TO ALL THE THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANTS . POURING IN HERE...................*STANDING ROOM ONLY*........
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truheart1941: ......MY MESSAGE FROM BRITAIN....TO ALL THE THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANTS . POURING IN HERE...................*STANDING ROOM ONLY*........
Just love your humor Tru...
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online today!lindsyjones: Just love your humor Tru...
..hi yer LIN/ this is not humor....this is a fact. my garden ...is small 20x20 feet....already I have 200 hundred standing there..... ------ This thread is Archived ------
truheart1941: ..hi yer LIN/ this is not humor....this is a fact. my garden ...is small 20x20 feet....already I have 200 hundred standing there.....
Well you'd better do something about it then.
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TRUMP REPUBS ARE SO FAR DOWN IT LOOKS LIKE UP!!!!!
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Trump only represents Trump, proven by the way he uses people and then discards them when their usefulness is no longer required.
He is now showing his true colours, he is someone few would want as a friend, because you would never know when he became bored with you and threw you to the lions.
He is no leader
He is now showing his true colours, he is someone few would want as a friend, because you would never know when he became bored with you and threw you to the lions.
He is no leader
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raphael119: Your premises are straight out of fantasy land.
Remember the great recession? Obama tried to get infrastructure programs and the Republican Congress blocked him ever time. Things are much better now, but Trump has had nothing to do with it. He cant even get his own house in order. Worldwide laughing stock and may be a traitor.
Remember the great recession? Obama tried to get infrastructure programs and the Republican Congress blocked him ever time. Things are much better now, but Trump has had nothing to do with it. He cant even get his own house in order. Worldwide laughing stock and may be a traitor.
Remember that obozocare tax law? The one that dipped into funding for other programs? the one that would cost a minimum of $1 trillion dollars to tax payers? The one that would never fund itself but cost up to $6.2 trillion dollars in tax payer funding down the road? The one that put more restrictions and regulations into the medical and insurance fields while imposing fines and mandates on the people and businesses.
Let's go into the EPA. The obozo organization that helped regulate jobs out of existence? Then the paris agreement which would have put more restriction and regulations. Regulations that cost trillions of dollars in growth, taxes, and other laws imposed.
How did that funding of solyndra and other places go? They funded what they wanted to funnel and channel jobs else where. Sort of a "job displacament" type plan while cutting thousands of others in the process. Where is that money now? Other countries and China picked up a lot of "business" from those fall outs. They have the credit for many innovations made to some of those.
Even obozo campaigned on border security and cracking down on immigration, lowering the deficit, but continually did the opposite. You can look up the nations ratings from 2009 to 2017. You can read about regulations, taxes, cause and effect. You can track the losses, gains, and spending from the dot gov site for a starting point. Educationally too. To push globalization while allowing your own country to lag and put it under a type of communism while people praise the downfall, truly is a genius accomplishment.
obozo could have reversed the damages of many things from the clinton administration forward just as Bush could have done as well. Instead he chose to blame Bush and build on them. When put a little more into perspective, obozo's policies would actually cause 1 and half times the national deficit or more of when it was allowed into office. The problem is that there are reports of that deficit ranging from over $7 trillion dollars to about $10 trillion when it sat down. which ones are right?
Trump's actions to uphold his promises, are actually trying to match his words. His speeches haven't been any where near as empty as the rest of the governing body itself and agencies that are also tax payer funded. I think you'll find Trump's deregulation and cuts so far are exactly contributing to growth. Kiplinger(though I hate the fact they use Goldman & Sach's as one of their consultants), and others will mention the stifling regulations and taxes of obozo and how growth is starting to come back as they are rolled back. About a 2% rate at the moment. Projections of up to 2.1+ steadily but I think it will go higher with renegotiation on some policies and "deals". You have to understand that to be a leader doesn't just blame the other guy. Being a leader means taking action against the other guys damaging effects.
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rizlared: Trump only represents Trump, proven by the way he uses people and then discards them when their usefulness is no longer required.
He is now showing his true colours, he is someone few would want as a friend, because you would never know when he became bored with you and threw you to the lions.
He is no leader
He is now showing his true colours, he is someone few would want as a friend, because you would never know when he became bored with you and threw you to the lions.
He is no leader
How about Trumps political rally at the Boy scouts rally? Trumps Youth comes to mind, how dare any political leader turn a non-political organisation into a political rally, talk about brainwashing the youth, disgusting behaviour, but what else can we expect from an ignorant, poorly educated, self-serving moron
Trump is running scared
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Draegoneer: Remember that obozocare tax law? The one that dipped into funding for other programs? the one that would cost a minimum of $1 trillion dollars to tax payers? The one that would never fund itself but cost up to $6.2 trillion dollars in tax payer funding down the road? The one that put more restrictions and regulations into the medical and insurance fields while imposing fines and mandates on the people and businesses.
Let's go into the EPA. The obozo organization that helped regulate jobs out of existence? Then the paris agreement which would have put more restriction and regulations. Regulations that cost trillions of dollars in growth, taxes, and other laws imposed.
How did that funding of solyndra and other places go? They funded what they wanted to funnel and channel jobs else where. Sort of a "job displacament" type plan while cutting thousands of others in the process. Where is that money now? Other countries and China picked up a lot of "business" from those fall outs. They have the credit for many innovations made to some of those.
Even obozo campaigned on border security and cracking down on immigration, lowering the deficit, but continually did the opposite. You can look up the nations ratings from 2009 to 2017. You can read about regulations, taxes, cause and effect. You can track the losses, gains, and spending from the dot gov site for a starting point. Educationally too. To push globalization while allowing your own country to lag and put it under a type of communism while people praise the downfall, truly is a genius accomplishment.
obozo could have reversed the damages of many things from the clinton administration forward just as Bush could have done as well. Instead he chose to blame Bush and build on them. When put a little more into perspective, obozo's policies would actually cause 1 and half times the national deficit or more of when it was allowed into office. The problem is that there are reports of that deficit ranging from over $7 trillion dollars to about $10 trillion when it sat down. which ones are right?
Trump's actions to uphold his promises, are actually trying to match his words. His speeches haven't been any where near as empty as the rest of the governing body itself and agencies that are also tax payer funded. I think you'll find Trump's deregulation and cuts so far are exactly contributing to growth. Kiplinger(though I hate the fact they use Goldman & Sach's as one of their consultants), and others will mention the stifling regulations and taxes of obozo and how growth is starting to come back as they are rolled back. About a 2% rate at the moment. Projections of up to 2.1+ steadily but I think it will go higher with renegotiation on some policies and "deals". You have to understand that to be a leader doesn't just blame the other guy. Being a leader means taking action against the other guys damaging effects.
Let's go into the EPA. The obozo organization that helped regulate jobs out of existence? Then the paris agreement which would have put more restriction and regulations. Regulations that cost trillions of dollars in growth, taxes, and other laws imposed.
How did that funding of solyndra and other places go? They funded what they wanted to funnel and channel jobs else where. Sort of a "job displacament" type plan while cutting thousands of others in the process. Where is that money now? Other countries and China picked up a lot of "business" from those fall outs. They have the credit for many innovations made to some of those.
Even obozo campaigned on border security and cracking down on immigration, lowering the deficit, but continually did the opposite. You can look up the nations ratings from 2009 to 2017. You can read about regulations, taxes, cause and effect. You can track the losses, gains, and spending from the dot gov site for a starting point. Educationally too. To push globalization while allowing your own country to lag and put it under a type of communism while people praise the downfall, truly is a genius accomplishment.
obozo could have reversed the damages of many things from the clinton administration forward just as Bush could have done as well. Instead he chose to blame Bush and build on them. When put a little more into perspective, obozo's policies would actually cause 1 and half times the national deficit or more of when it was allowed into office. The problem is that there are reports of that deficit ranging from over $7 trillion dollars to about $10 trillion when it sat down. which ones are right?
Trump's actions to uphold his promises, are actually trying to match his words. His speeches haven't been any where near as empty as the rest of the governing body itself and agencies that are also tax payer funded. I think you'll find Trump's deregulation and cuts so far are exactly contributing to growth. Kiplinger(though I hate the fact they use Goldman & Sach's as one of their consultants), and others will mention the stifling regulations and taxes of obozo and how growth is starting to come back as they are rolled back. About a 2% rate at the moment. Projections of up to 2.1+ steadily but I think it will go higher with renegotiation on some policies and "deals". You have to understand that to be a leader doesn't just blame the other guy. Being a leader means taking action against the other guys damaging effects.
You mention the damage of the Clinton administration. The growth rate under him was higher than Reagans eight years!
Google under GDP and inflation adjusted growth rates, theres no meaningful change at all in 2018, this years growth over last years.
Obama took us out of a borderline depression with negative growth, 2008 ,into a number of years with excellent growth.
We owe the former head of the Fed a great deal for that too.
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Three basic but major issue that he touched: To protect our borders instead of other countries.
To refuse to support illegal immigrants at the expense of our needy people. 40 percent of Americans live in poverty and we are losing the great Middle Class.
No more Free trade: Imagine, we get taxed for highly when we sell our products to foreign countries while we don't tax foreign trades to sell to our country.. Imagine the impact on that.
Obama's 8 years of administration has incurred more debt that all the presidents combined.
The highlight for me is: "We might be divided in policies but we are united against hate and all it's ugly forms.
Even Sanders was clapping and some Democrats.
Yes, but actually Lindsy he only paraphrased what Mr Putin said some years ago when asked by German journalists if he were a friend or foe of the west
Putin " I am not your friend, I am not your bride or your groom, I am president of Russia a country of 146million people who have certain national interests ... national interests are not the same as personal friendship"