Why Macron won (115)
JMO....I think some in France see his opponent as another Donald Trump, and became scared. I also believe they voted Macron as a vote for European solidarity.
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"A member of the Socialist Party (PS) from 2006 to 2009, Macron was appointed as deputy secretary-general under François Hollande's first government in 2012. He was appointed Minister of Economy, Industry and Digital Affairs in 2014 under the Second Valls Government, where he pushed through business-friendly reforms. He resigned in August 2016 to launch a bid in the 2017 presidential election. In November 2016, Macron declared that he would run in the election under the banner of En Marche!, a centrist political movement he founded in April 2016. Ideologically, he has been characterised as a centrist and a liberal."
From Wikipedia.
Correction: He started his political career in 2006, but became more prominent under Hollande's administration. Young blood, young ideas.
Way to go France.
From Wikipedia.
Correction: He started his political career in 2006, but became more prominent under Hollande's administration. Young blood, young ideas.
Way to go France.
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sergio09: JMO....I think some in France see his opponent as another Donald Trump, and became scared. I also believe they voted Macron as a vote for European solidarity.
JMO
on the contrary, I'd see as a legacy of non corrupt experience. JMO
While Le Pen is a far right winger, she's more seen as a copy of the old political grounds.
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sergio09: JMO....I think some in France see his opponent as another Donald Trump, and became scared. I also believe they voted Macron as a vote for European solidarity.
JMO
JMO
I'm reading the NY Times and front page declares: Why Macron won- Luck, Skill and France's Dark History.
Also added: GLOBALIZATION against NATIONALISM, FUTURE VERSUS THE PAST, OPEN VERSUS CLOSED.
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oh lookie, I'm not the only one who thinks the French voters saw Le Pen as another Donald Trump.
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ooby_dooby: oh lookie, I'm not the only one who thinks the French voters saw Le Pen as another Donald Trump.
Ooby is it a surprise that people who hate Trump would say the same thing?
You must be living a miserable life. Just saying.
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Macron won because his rival was Le Pen. People voted against her and her ideas.
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GUZMAN1: Macron won because his rival was Le Pen. People voted against her and her ideas.
Thanks Guzman, I couldn't agree more.
Read the article published by NY Times today and you'll find out how the comparison weighs in.
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It's within living memory of some when France was under the thumb of the NAZ' occupation . I really can't see anyone willingly voting that type of person in office .
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Grouchyoldfart: It's within living memory of some when France was under the thumb of the NAZ' occupation . I really can't see anyone willingly voting that type of person in office .
Grouchy can you elaborate a little bit more?
What I've read about this Macron is that he's liberal, the kind of most people from California.
Is it an indication that France is drastically changing?
If so what causes or influences those changes?
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lindsyjones: It's very obvious to me that the French people opted for a young leader, Macron being the youngest president ever to be elected since Napoleon Bonaparte.
Even more significant reason is the fact that he is new in the world of politics. Only started in 2012 and two years later decided to make himself a presidential candidate for this election which he won without difficulty.
Well described as centrist and liberal, it's truly a noted reason why France chose him instead of the politically experienced and far right Le Pen.
Any opinions?
Even more significant reason is the fact that he is new in the world of politics. Only started in 2012 and two years later decided to make himself a presidential candidate for this election which he won without difficulty.
Well described as centrist and liberal, it's truly a noted reason why France chose him instead of the politically experienced and far right Le Pen.
Any opinions?
The French are angry, but they're not that angry, and anybody could beat Le Pen in the second round even the ultra-establishment.
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BritishLondon: The French are angry, but they're not that angry, and anybody could beat Le Pen in the second round even the ultra-establishment.
What are they angry about?
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IMHO, it was not an "age-related" vote, but a vote for a more "moderate" stance. Being Canadian (and with Canada being bilingual with many citizens with direct ties to France) my French friends relate their relatives in France simply felt the alternative was too far to the right and would only serve to "kick the hornet's nest".... As for experience in politics, he has scant few years. Then again, President Trump basically is even "greener!" In my personal opinion, which matters little, I am glad Macron
won and I wish him all the success in these disconcerting times.
won and I wish him all the success in these disconcerting times.
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DaMooseLives: IMHO, it was not an "age-related" vote, but a vote for a more "moderate" stance. Being Canadian (and with Canada being bilingual with many citizens with direct ties to France) my French friends relate their relatives in France simply felt the alternative was too far to the right and would only serve to "kick the hornet's nest".... As for experience in politics, he has scant few years. Then again, President Trump basically is even "greener!" In my personal opinion, which matters little, I am glad Macron
won and I wish him all the success in these disconcerting times.
won and I wish him all the success in these disconcerting times.
Well the comparison was between him and Le Pen but by comparison to Trump, they are indeed neophytes which all the more reason why they won.
Myself I'm not too critical of him. He's going to define how well he responds to his country's needs more than anything else.
Thanks.
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lindsyjones: Well the comparison was between him and Le Pen but by comparison to Trump, they are indeed neophytes which all the more reason why they won.
Myself I'm not too critical of him. He's going to define how well he responds to his country's needs more than anything else.
Thanks.
Myself I'm not too critical of him. He's going to define how well he responds to his country's needs more than anything else.
Thanks.
So true. I am still trying to interpret todays NWO. At present, I am pouring over material regarding our two countries "trade differences" amongst other matters. In my many decades, this has been the most difficult Presidencies to interpret.
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DaMooseLives: So true. I am still trying to interpret todays NWO. At present, I am pouring over material regarding our two countries "trade differences" amongst other matters. In my many decades, this has been the most difficult Presidencies to interpret.
If you read the headlines of NY Times it might be easier to understand the way globalization is over riding the demands for nationalism.
In the main hype of Trump's campaign slogan was that of being AMERICA FIRST, which contradicts that presentation but as we are moving on to the unknown journey of our future as super powers, there's a big concern towards globalization.
Whatever these G7 countries decide, definitely will shape the world.
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lindsyjones: It's very obvious to me that the French people opted for a young leader, Macron being the youngest president ever to be elected since Napoleon Bonaparte.
Even more significant reason is the fact that he is new in the world of politics. Only started in 2012 and two years later decided to make himself a presidential candidate for this election which he won without difficulty.
Well described as centrist and liberal, it's truly a noted reason why France chose him instead of the politically experienced and far right Le Pen.
Any opinions?
Even more significant reason is the fact that he is new in the world of politics. Only started in 2012 and two years later decided to make himself a presidential candidate for this election which he won without difficulty.
Well described as centrist and liberal, it's truly a noted reason why France chose him instead of the politically experienced and far right Le Pen.
Any opinions?
My best guess, at last time, French people suddenly remembered
what Fascists can do. Vichy's France?
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posolet: My best guess, at last time, French people suddenly remembered
what Fascists can do. Vichy's France?
what Fascists can do. Vichy's France?
The Vichy time left such a bad taste in the French even Chateau Vioette white Bordeau can not completely get it out of there mouths ! ! !
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Grouchyoldfart: The Vichy time left such a bad taste in the French even Chateau Vioette white Bordeau can not completely get it out of there mouths ! ! !
If the stamp if Macron's leadership reflects that shameful period of their history, then it confirms my opinion that France is headed for destruction.
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Even more significant reason is the fact that he is new in the world of politics. Only started in 2012 and two years later decided to make himself a presidential candidate for this election which he won without difficulty.
Well described as centrist and liberal, it's truly a noted reason why France chose him instead of the politically experienced and far right Le Pen.
Any opinions?