dopamine and serotonin ( Archived) (15)

Feb 21, 2018 11:43 AM CST dopamine and serotonin
lets discuss these chemicals
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Feb 21, 2018 12:10 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
pedro27: lets discuss these chemicals
......NO.....lets talk about SENNA TABLETS,,,,,and Syrup of figs.....instead......grin grin sad flower laugh
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Feb 21, 2018 12:16 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
how about nose drops?uh oh
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Feb 21, 2018 12:21 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
DoubleFantasy
DoubleFantasyDoubleFantasyLondon, Greater London, England UK562 Posts
truheart1941: ......NO.....lets talk about SENNA TABLETS,,,,,and Syrup of figs.....instead......


Well its like this - if its standing on your head that works - than do it! teddybear

They reckon for the optimal feel good factor from "letting your hair down" (or if you like - switching off) is 2 weeks as the effect lasts two weeks...so when "self medicating" yourself, aim for every two weeks to "let your hair down" laugh laugh
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Feb 21, 2018 12:24 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
truheart1941: ......NO.....lets talk about SENNA TABLETS,,,,,and Syrup of figs.....instead......


I need to run 5 km none stop
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Feb 21, 2018 2:00 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I heard a story the other day.

Some people introduced antidepressants in some area of Africa, I think it was. The local medics wanted to know what they were and what they were for.

After the explanation, they informed the visitors that they already had antidepressants.

Expecting some herbal remedy, this visitors followed the medics and we're introduced to a local farmer. The farmer had been working in the fields when a landmine exploded, amputating his leg. After treatment and having a prosthesis fitted, he went back to work. The trouble was, something to do with the wet conditions of the field caused him extreme pain where the prosthetic leg fitted to the remains of his limb; the field was also a reminder of his traumatic experience. The farmer became anxious and also cried the whole time he was in the field.

The medics bought him a cow. He became a dairy farmer, no longer suffered the physical pain and no longer cried all the time.

So, you see, said the medics, we already have antidepressants.
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Feb 22, 2018 9:53 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
DoubleFantasy
DoubleFantasyDoubleFantasyLondon, Greater London, England UK562 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I heard a story the other day.

Some people introduced antidepressants in some area of Africa, I think it was. The local medics wanted to know what they were and what they were for.

After the explanation, they informed the visitors that they already had antidepressants.

Expecting some herbal remedy, this visitors followed the medics and we're introduced to a local farmer. The farmer had been working in the fields when a landmine exploded, amputating his leg. After treatment and having a prosthesis fitted, he went back to work. The trouble was, something to do with the wet conditions of the field caused him extreme pain where the prosthetic leg fitted to the remains of his limb; the field was also a reminder of his traumatic experience. The farmer became anxious and also cried the whole time he was in the field.

The medics bought him a cow. He became a dairy farmer, no longer suffered the physical pain and no longer cried all the time.

So, you see, said the medics, we already have antidepressants.


Thats simply great.

There is a whole field of avocation around "the least invasive first" approach.

Its about the least invasive coming first before the next least invasive and so on...
...until its all lined up, with the least invasive first and then one after another to the more invasive - against the predicament, dilemma, quandary, scrape or jam.
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Feb 22, 2018 9:59 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I heard a story the other day.

Some people introduced antidepressants in some area of Africa, I think it was. The local medics wanted to know what they were and what they were for.

After the explanation, they informed the visitors that they already had antidepressants.

Expecting some herbal remedy, this visitors followed the medics and we're introduced to a local farmer. The farmer had been working in the fields when a landmine exploded, amputating his leg. After treatment and having a prosthesis fitted, he went back to work. The trouble was, something to do with the wet conditions of the field caused him extreme pain where the prosthetic leg fitted to the remains of his limb; the field was also a reminder of his traumatic experience. The farmer became anxious and also cried the whole time he was in the field.

The medics bought him a cow. He became a dairy farmer, no longer suffered the physical pain and no longer cried all the time.

So, you see, said the medics, we already have antidepressants.
thumbs up Changing environment helps.wine
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Feb 23, 2018 12:07 AM CST dopamine and serotonin
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
truheart1941: ......NO.....lets talk about SENNA TABLETS,,,,,and Syrup of figs.....instead......


That should get the thread moving along ...

Take a dose of each and call me in the morning if 'nothing happens'

Oh, how many people knew that couple of double shot short blacks would solve most cases of constipation ... with the added bonus that you'll be wide awake to enjoy the moment !!!

cheers
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Feb 23, 2018 12:29 AM CST dopamine and serotonin
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
The levels of Dopamine +Seratonine, are affected by our life style.
WEll, am happy with my life style.
laugh
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Feb 23, 2018 3:50 AM CST dopamine and serotonin
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I heard a story the other day.

Some people introduced antidepressants in some area of Africa, I think it was. The local medics wanted to know what they were and what they were for.

After the explanation, they informed the visitors that they already had antidepressants.

Expecting some herbal remedy, this visitors followed the medics and we're introduced to a local farmer. The farmer had been working in the fields when a landmine exploded, amputating his leg. After treatment and having a prosthesis fitted, he went back to work. The trouble was, something to do with the wet conditions of the field caused him extreme pain where the prosthetic leg fitted to the remains of his limb; the field was also a reminder of his traumatic experience. The farmer became anxious and also cried the whole time he was in the field.

The medics bought him a cow. He became a dairy farmer, no longer suffered the physical pain and no longer cried all the time.

So, you see, said the medics, we already have antidepressants.


That would work better if social care came in the form of your friends, relatives and neighbours etc. This would work better with a basic income so people can afford to take time off to look after their dear old mum. Paid care and paid therapy could to some extent be replaced by a community of the work-life balance.
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Feb 23, 2018 3:07 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
The focus on these two chemicals, and a few others, was heuristic at best, and at worst, full of holes. The latest hypothesis du jour involves inflammation and the myriad chemical mediators involved in such. Of course, in other medical traditions, depressive/anxiety disorders, and others, are seen as having causal webs far from so simplistic. One hundred cases of recurrent major depression, rigorously diagnosed by allopaths, could easily fall neatly into several separate diagnostic rubrics, as seen by, say, practitioners of TCM, for example, with different treatments for each. The basic problem is that the brain and emotions are still understood at very basic and incomplete levels. And in cases of milder afflictions, talk therapies, with competent and trusted counselors, have great benefits. Confidants, as ever, and environment, also can do wonders, as the dairy farmer's story shows.The art is long. Aa-V.
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Feb 23, 2018 3:43 PM CST dopamine and serotonin
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I heard a story the other day.

Some people introduced antidepressants in some area of Africa, I think it was. The local medics wanted to know what they were and what they were for.

After the explanation, they informed the visitors that they already had antidepressants.

Expecting some herbal remedy, this visitors followed the medics and we're introduced to a local farmer. The farmer had been working in the fields when a landmine exploded, amputating his leg. After treatment and having a prosthesis fitted, he went back to work. The trouble was, something to do with the wet conditions of the field caused him extreme pain where the prosthetic leg fitted to the remains of his limb; the field was also a reminder of his traumatic experience. The farmer became anxious and also cried the whole time he was in the field.

The medics bought him a cow. He became a dairy farmer, no longer suffered the physical pain and no longer cried all the time.

So, you see, said the medics, we already have antidepressants.


i love this story!.....so often we don't think outside the western box, believing we can't change the situation so we have to change ourselves to deal with the situation.

i have a friend who is miserable with their situation....
maybe i should buy them a cow.. (grin)
or a goat....they're smaller...
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Feb 24, 2018 6:23 AM CST dopamine and serotonin
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
DoubleFantasy: Thats simply great.
There is a whole field of avocation around "the least invasive first" approach.
Its about the least invasive coming first before the next least invasive and so on...
...until its all lined up, with the least invasive first and then one after another to the more invasive - against the predicament, dilemma, quandary, scrape or jam.



Another from Africa, I believe Kenya but I may be wrong on the specific.

If an individual suffers a mental breakdown / particularly a psychotic break then they tie his hands to the Best Runner in the village and the BR is charged with literally running the Patient into the ground, ie until they literally cannot take another step further after which they share some food and then walk back to the village.

There's a number of 'western theories' (such as the experience deters future breaks on the grounds that it was a 'hard' experience) but the locals don;t bother so much with explanations, it's been working for hundreds of years so they just do it!

Interesting though that when a person has PB they tend to want to run ... and in the west there;s a tendency by authorities to STOP them from running (inconvenient) and of course the 'identity and attire of those who stop becomes 'one more thing in the bundle of things they fear ... and want to run from !'
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Feb 24, 2018 6:30 AM CST dopamine and serotonin


Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors and Violent Crime: A Cohort Study




New Study Confirms What CCHR Has Said for Decades—Antidepressants Cause Violence
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