Religion is based upon fear and how a small group of power hungry men used that fear of the unknown to get the blind unquestioning obedience (and the money) of many millions of people. Science has facts that have been proven (usually more than once) by rigorous testing and peer review. Many of the bibles stories were written in places that existed because the authors lived there and that made the stories more believable to the people. Most of the stories of the bible were written a full 100 (or many more) years after the events were supposed to have taken place so there were no direct witnesses to said events, just the place settings to make it sound real. Science has proven that. It's like Steven King placing many of his stories in New England, because he lives there and knows the area. It gives his stories a sense of reality. So science and knowledge wins and will continue to win.
galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
This thread could applied on the Bible followers only. The Bible is against the science , logic and knowledge . Why we Muslims don't have the same problems .
rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
saidmahmoud: This thread could applied on the Bible followers only. The Bible is against the science , logic and knowledge . Why we Muslims don't have the same problems .
Islam is a deceleration of war on women across the world & you muslims don't have any problem with it. That's truly against logic but the bible is problem ?
rainbowdream2017: Islam is a deceleration of war on women across the world & you muslims don't have any problem with it. That's truly against logic but the bible is problem ?
rainbowdream2017: Islam is a deceleration of war on women across the world & you muslims don't have any problem with it. That's truly against logic but the bible is problem ?
rainbowdream2017: Islam is a deceleration of war on women across the world & you muslims don't have any problem with it. That's truly against logic but the bible is problem ?
The Catholic church burned people alive And persecuted women
Allah means God , And by the way there is something about this name make us amazed This name is four letters long When you take one it's give you another God name or pointing to something godly Like saying Ilah when you remove one L Or saying the God name in another language! And the name Allah has the ability to say it without being noticed during breathing or silence. And people saying this name have a lot of endless secrets
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
saidmahmoud: Allah means God , And by the way there is something about this name make us amazed This name is four letters long When you take one it's give you another God name or pointing to something godly Like saying Ilah when you remove one L Or saying the God name in another language! And the name Allah has the ability to say it without being noticed during breathing or silence. And people saying this name have a lot of endless secrets
Thanks, is it true that Jihad has one of the pillars is to overcome such things as hatered, malice, anger and pride?
What justifies Jihad?
You see Said, the reason I am saying this is because it is not much different than other religions. There are people that follow it to the scripture and those that don't. That translate it very differently.
Sure there are bad followers of Catholics and Christians. Just as there are of Muslims. Everyone can highlight people who do wrong in both.
There are also white gang rapists and every other color too....so what's your point rb?....other than we know you hate muslims and seem to expect everyone else to hate them too.....
Rachie14: Thanks, is it true that Jihad has one of the pillars is to overcome such things as hatered, malice, anger and pride?
What justifies Jihad?
You see Said, the reason I am saying this is because it is not much different than other religions. There are people that follow it to the scripture and those that don't. That translate it very differently.
Sure there are bad followers of Catholics and Christians. Just as there are of Muslims. Everyone can highlight people who do wrong in both.
Jihad is two types Minor and major
The minor jihad is against threats The major jihad is against the evil within us. And about the name of God (ALLAH) when people saying Allah Akbar it's mean God is Greater. And muslims when pray beginning with saying Allah Akbar it's not declare for a jihad it's just greetings for God presence during prayer.
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
saidmahmoud: Jihad is two types Minor and major
The minor jihad is against threats The major jihad is against the evil within us. And about the name of God (ALLAH) when people saying Allah Akbar it's mean God is Greater. And muslims when pray beginning with saying Allah Akbar it's not declare for a jihad it's just greetings for God presence during prayer.
Thank you...
Tell us about Holly war? Because I think a lot of people associate the misunderstanding of the group ISIS have of this. Rather than what it is meant to be...
rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia2,486 posts
Rachie14: You are attacking his faith, what are you expecting him to do? Sit back and take it?
You treat him with contempt because of his faith. Like he has commited such crimes. You still continue to do and slap him in the face with it. Yet, he is just trying to fit in in the forum and discuss the topics.
You do not acknowledge that it doesn't just happen in the Muslim faith but in all. You will say it doesn't happen in the church and can seperate that. But you can't see that not all Muslims are not bad.
Oh you missed to read what he said about the Bible & you don't see that as attack on christians....thats perfectly ok with you. His fitting well only with those that don't mind spitting on their own culture & everything that is part of your identity & my identity. How nice of you to be selective in reading ! He is so nice spitting on all of you ....& yet his fitting well.
Well there is at least one conclusion that even the most rigorous impartiality would find it hard to avoid: Religion seems to have very little effect on the moral behaviour of its "followers".
Tell us about Holly war? Because I think a lot of people associate the misunderstanding of the group ISIS have of this. Rather than what it is meant to be...
The excuses for the Holy war is not available The whole world is open , connected, modernized and civilized enough except the Israel and Palestine. About ISIS AND AL QAIDA both are in wrong direction Islam forbid attacking civilians, and both doing this, the only excuse they mention everytime is western countries supporting dictatorship systems in Islamic countries to protect Israel and the US Army in the meadle East and Africa as new face of colonization
I also want to know why muslims are the only ones listed in the media by their religion....when was the last time you read a story that listed a perpetrators religion in the media like catholic or protestant or Anglican?...ohhhhhh that's right...never...unless it was a priest....I think that only breeds islamaphobia and is clearly discriminatory....perhaps if we kept track of other criminals religions we could compare just how bad other religions are....but we're never gonna find any stats on that are we?....
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
Harbal: Well there is at least one conclusion that even the most rigorous impartiality would find it hard to avoid: Religion seems to have very little effect on the moral behaviour of its "followers".
100% which should say it is a mask the person wears as a shield to hide behind a faith and to still commit such acts!
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So science and knowledge wins and will continue to win.