Science Vs Religion: will science eventually prove or disprove religion? ( Archived) (116)

Role models in my life, the best being my nan. I don't lose them. I am tested on them. Just like anyone else in life.

I don't run from anything. Including my own flaws. I am pretty sure of my current direction and choices I make.

Perhaps because I make certain choices, it is often misunderstood. But they are still mine to make Said. I am accountable for them.

The outline below contains the very answers to the very questions Muhammad did not want his followers to know, namely that Islam is a sanitized version of ancient polytheistic moon worship which he invented to exercise military control. 1) Does the Qur'an define the word "Allah"? No. 2) Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur'an? No 3) Does the Qur'an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes 4) Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes. 5) According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No 6) Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No 7) What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans 8) What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah) 9) Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes 10) Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes 11) Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes 12) Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes 13) Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes 14) What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah. 15) Was the title "al-ilah" (the god) used of the Moon-god? Yes 16) Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah?" Yes 17) Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes. 18) Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes. 19) Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes 20) Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes. 21) At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes. 22) Was the Kabah thus the "house of the Moon-god"? Yes. 23) Did the name "Allah" eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes. 24) Did they call the Kabah the "house of Allah"? Yes 25) Did the pagans develop religious rites in connection with the worship of their gods? Yes. 26) Did the pagans practice the Pilgrimage, the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.? Yes. 27) Did Muhammad command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca? Yes (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78). 28) Did Islam go on to adopt these pagan religious rites? Yes. (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80). 29) Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called "the daughters of Allah"? Yes. 30) Did the Qur'an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20. 31) Have those verses been "abrogated" out of the present Qur'an? Yes. 32) What were they called? "The Satanic Verses." Yes. 33) Was the crescent moon an ancient pagan symbol of the Moon-god throughout the ancient world? Yes. 34) Was it the religious symbol of the Moon-god in Arabia? Yes 35) Were stars also used as pagan symbols of the daughers of Allah? Yes 36) Did the Jews or the Christians of Arabia use the crescent moon with several stars next to it as symbols of their faith? No 37) Did Islam adopt the pagan crescent moon and stars as it religious symbol? Yes. 38) As Islam developed over the centuries, did it adopt pagan names, pagan ceremonies, pagan temples and pagan symbols? Yes 39) Is it possible that most Muslims do not know the pagan sources of the symbols and rites of their own religion? Yes. 40) Are they shocked to find out the true sources of their ceremonies and stories? Yes

41) Can Islam be the religion of Abraham if it is derived from paganism? No 42) What then is Islam? A modern version of one of the ancient fertility cults. 43) Is the "Allah" of the Qur'an, the Christian God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No 44) Do the Jews say that the Muslim "Allah" is their God too? No 45) Then whose god is Allah? Paganism According to the Quran, Muhammad was uncertain whether Allah would save him: Or do they say, 'He has forged it'? Say: 'If I have forged it, you have no power to help me against Allah. He knows very well what you are pressing upon; He suffices as a witness between me and you; He is the All-forgiving, the All-compassionate.' Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' S. 46:8-9 Meccan The so-called authentic narrations make it clear that Muhammad was speaking in respect to his eternal fate: Narrated 'Um al-'Ala: An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. 'Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um al-'Ala's family), 'Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Apostle! But who else is worthy of it (if not 'Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for 'Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Apostle and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266)

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