Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks (56)

Mar 11, 2019 8:23 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
Bit late for the 346 already dead passengers and crew...

Updates to manouvering, flight system control law, pilot displays, operations and crew manuals.

It rather looks like Boeing did the 'cheapskate gaming software developer trick' and unleashed a Beta System - y'know, where they release it and let the punters find the bugs and report back because lots of punters playing games in real life is a lot faster, cheaper and far more effective at finding bugs than 'in house' testing prior to launch.

Wonders if the investigation will go deep as to seek out 'what was known' by Boeing before sales were launched?

But ... well, how can a company of that size actually 'be punished' if / when they put profits ahead of safety?
Mar 12, 2019 1:21 AM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand2,109 Posts
I wouldn't be getting on one.
Mar 12, 2019 5:36 AM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
charles_nz: I wouldn't be getting on one.
Nor anyone else who'd not choose to play RUssian Roulette !

The US FAA have ordered multiple mandatory changes ... yet insist the ship is fit to fly ?

And of course NZ (as usual) toes the US line ...

At this stage it's probably possible to argue that any future crashes are 'predictable or foreseeable events' which might let Boeing's Insurers off the hook ! Average award is between 1 and 3 million USD ... that's around 700 million payout plus the costs of the lost aircraft and the loss of revenue to the operators ... and perhaps also 'loss of reputation'
Mar 12, 2019 7:06 AM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
In several countries these planes are not allowed to fly at the moment, but a dutch travel organisation is not planning to do the same. If it crashes with some familymembers on board, you'll bet your arse I'll ask millions from the travel organisation.
Mar 12, 2019 10:58 AM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
the 737 is not the problem. is the men behind it.cool
Mar 12, 2019 11:14 AM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
methuzelah: the 737 is not the problem. is the men behind it.
it is called, sabotagecool
Mar 12, 2019 1:13 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
KarloradoFL
KarloradoFLKarloradoFLNear Daytona Beach, Florida USA17 Threads 2 Polls 3,223 Posts
One of my airplane vloggers:
Mar 12, 2019 1:51 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
KarloradoFL: One of my airplane vloggers:
All 737Max, have been bannrd from European airspace, for the forseable future.
Mar 12, 2019 2:57 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
aries1234: All 737Max, have been bannrd from European airspace, for the forseable future.
youhouooooooo
Brexit fail & UK remain in the EUlaugh
Mar 12, 2019 2:59 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
Waves of plumbers on the waybanana
Mar 12, 2019 3:01 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
aries1234
you lost
rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 12, 2019 3:04 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
saidmahmoud: aries1234
you lost
Weneed more plumbers, wedidn't lose all going to plan.
Mar 12, 2019 3:08 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
Is anyone sueing boeing over these crashes ? they need to be taken down for errors like that.
Mar 12, 2019 3:11 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
aries1234: Weneed more plumbers, wedidn't lose all going to plan.
I know you are quite upset
but you'll use to have plumbers watching
1 for your wife
1 for your girlfriend
Mar 12, 2019 3:13 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
saidmahmoud: I know you are quite upset
but you'll use to have plumbers watching
1 for your wife
1 for your girlfriend
Who you will never know they don't like people like youprofessor rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 12, 2019 3:18 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
Butcher559: Is anyone sueing boeing over these crashes ? they need to be taken down for errors like that.
Early days for that yet - but it will certainly happen. As I said earlier usual payout is 1 to 3 million US$ per life lost, plus the cost of the aircraft, plus loss of revenue + loss of reputation of the carrier.

The FAA say on the hand 'It's safe to fly' yet on the other have 'mandated software and system changes'. Dianne Feinstein has said the only intelligent thing I heard her say in decades - asking for them all to be grounded.

I suspect a different outcome if one crashed on US territory or if this had involved foreign (ie non US built) aircraft ... Let's hope and pray no more lives are lost.



sad flower for those who have lost people close to them
Mar 12, 2019 3:18 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
aries1234: Who you will never know they don't like people like you
am not plumber
transporterdancing
Mar 12, 2019 3:30 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
saidmahmoud: am not plumber
transporter
Could you show some respect and keep on topic - Thanks!
Mar 12, 2019 3:31 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
Same to you - keep on topic or take your homo erotic fantasy elsewhere !
Mar 12, 2019 3:31 PM CST Boeing to 'Upgrade' software across the 737MAX Fleet in coming weeks
HexagonKeySet: Nor anyone else who'd not choose to play RUssian Roulette !

The US FAA have ordered multiple mandatory changes ... yet insist the ship is fit to fly ?

And of course NZ (as usual) toes the US line ...

At this stage it's probably possible to argue that any future crashes are 'predictable or foreseeable events' which might let Boeing's Insurers off the hook ! Average award is between 1 and 3 million USD ... that's around 700 million payout plus the costs of the lost aircraft and the loss of revenue to the operators ... and perhaps also 'loss of reputation'
If you have the time put up some comments on U-Tube clips saying NZ government will not ban this plane from flying . Suggest you use NZ in full , no bugger knows what NZ means .
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