Amsterdam: Businessman Returns From Vacation to Find His Property Occupied by 40 Asylum Seekers (20)
Burn the place to the ground, then decline the insurance payout so they can't charge him with arson.
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Bladewound: Burn the place to the ground, then decline the insurance payout so they can't charge him with arson.
I can't believe you just said anything quite so idiotic. 
It's the deliberate burning of a building which counts as arson. Making an insurance claim is not arson, it's fraud if done under false pretences.
Plainly you bypassed any thoughts of the expenditure involved in putting the fire out/clearing/rebuilding, but more astoundingly, you did not include the potential risk of causing harm, or death to any number of people in, or near the building.
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They didn't tell you all, this is a group refused people who are asked over and over again to leave the country, they won't go, first they had some tents in a kindergarten, later they stayed in churches.
The Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
The Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
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PeKaatje: They didn't tell you all, this is a group refused people who are asked over and over again to leave the country, they won't go, first they had some tents in a kindergarten, later they stayed in churches.
The Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
I agree with you, cut the funding and meal ticket.The Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
Round those puppies up and drop them off ANYWHERE, in their own country, papers or no papers. Enough is enough.
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jac_the_gripper: I can't believe you just said anything quite so idiotic.
It's the deliberate burning of a building which counts as arson. Making an insurance claim is not arson, it's fraud if done under false pretences.
Plainly you bypassed any thoughts of the expenditure involved in putting the fire out/clearing/rebuilding, but more astoundingly, you did not include the potential risk of causing harm, or death to any number of people in, or near the building.
It's not against the law to burn your own possessions. People are unlawfully squatting in HIS building! If he wants to renovate it, paint it, burn it to the ground, it's his to do with as he wishes. And they had the audacity to throw him off his own property that HE OWNS! Who the hell are THEY?? Do they belong there? No. Did he invite them there? No. Do they own it? No!It's the deliberate burning of a building which counts as arson. Making an insurance claim is not arson, it's fraud if done under false pretences.
Plainly you bypassed any thoughts of the expenditure involved in putting the fire out/clearing/rebuilding, but more astoundingly, you did not include the potential risk of causing harm, or death to any number of people in, or near the building.
If you want your heart to bleed so much for them, let 'em come live in YOUR house.
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Bladewound: It's not against the law to burn your own possessions. People are unlawfully squatting in HIS building! If he wants to renovate it, paint it, burn it to the ground, it's his to do with as he wishes. And they had the audacity to throw him off his own property that HE OWNS! Who the hell are THEY?? Do they belong there? No. Did he invite them there? No. Do they own it? No!
If you want your heart to bleed so much for them, let 'em come live in YOUR house.
It is against the law to burn down your house.If you want your heart to bleed so much for them, let 'em come live in YOUR house.
It is (or can be) against the law to renovate your house (depending on the works and permisions granted).
It is (or can be) against the law to even paint your house.
Being the owner of a property does not give you the right to do what you like with it.
There was a point but it went past you by miles.
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Most likely some liberal point, which I wouldn't have paid attention to anyway.
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PeKaatje: They didn't tell you all, this is a group refused people who are asked over and over again to leave the country, they won't go, first they had some tents in a kindergarten, later they stayed in churches.
The Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
fortunately Holland has some people with a few brainsThe Amsterdam government refused to stop helping them by giving them food, drinks and a bed, allthough the dutch government told them not to do so.
Those fugs are doing this kind of things for over 5 years now, and nobody seems to be so clever to send the police and kick them out of the country.
It's kinda ridicullous.
A lot of fugitives coming to Europe throw away thei identification papers, so it's hard to send them back, and also there are countries in Africa that won't even take them back.
If I was leading this country, I would say to those countries: Okay, you won't take them back? Well, we give you money every year, now we need that money to take care of your people that are living in our country, so sorry, you won't get no more.
But also we are bonded by European laws, that's one reason why I hope the Brexit will be a great success in about 2 years, and then maybe a Nexit.
The most prolonged military expedition was the Aceh War in which a Dutch invasion in 1873 was met with indigenous guerrilla resistance and ended with an Acehnese surrender in 1912.
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Please don’t throw Brexit into the mix - you have no idea of the emotional distress being caused by that situation.
Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
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And another one bites the dust.
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MustangWriter: “Do I have to leave my own building?”
A businessman in Amsterdam returned from vacation to find his property occupied by 40 refused asylum seekers who told him to leave.
According to a report by AT5, entrepreneur Salih Ozcan was “expelled from (his) own premises” by the migrant squatters after returning from holiday.
After recovering his property from a “bad tenant” who used it as a weed factory in January, Ozcan had refurbished the site and planned to use it for his car company.
He was shocked to discover it had been occupied by 40 failed asylum seekers who had completely trashed the place.
Referring to the piles of trash at the entrance, Ozcan said the scene was too “crazy for words,” adding, “Only rats and mice come here.”
A video shows angry African migrants confronting both Ozcan and the camera crew from the TV station. The migrants threatened to call the police if they didn’t leave immediately.
“Do I have to leave my own building?” asked an exasperated Ozcan.
Ozcan decided to leave his own building before the police got involved.
“It’s a very bad feeling. I have no words for it at all,” he said. “I can understand those people somewhat, but they don’t understand me at all. Unbelievable. That this is possible in such a country.”
Police refused to comment specifically on the case and said they wouldn’t be treating the matter as urgent.
The footage is somewhat similar to video which came to light in 2016 showing an 80-year-old hotel owner in Italy being forced by police to house numerous African migrants as he desperately tries to resist government confiscation of his property.
The owner refused to house migrants after being told he would be paid just 7 euros per night for each asylum seeker, but his property was subsequently confiscated by the then left-wing government.
excellent example of how to guidance hatred and create a misconcepted mass opinion .A businessman in Amsterdam returned from vacation to find his property occupied by 40 refused asylum seekers who told him to leave.
According to a report by AT5, entrepreneur Salih Ozcan was “expelled from (his) own premises” by the migrant squatters after returning from holiday.
After recovering his property from a “bad tenant” who used it as a weed factory in January, Ozcan had refurbished the site and planned to use it for his car company.
He was shocked to discover it had been occupied by 40 failed asylum seekers who had completely trashed the place.
Referring to the piles of trash at the entrance, Ozcan said the scene was too “crazy for words,” adding, “Only rats and mice come here.”
A video shows angry African migrants confronting both Ozcan and the camera crew from the TV station. The migrants threatened to call the police if they didn’t leave immediately.
“Do I have to leave my own building?” asked an exasperated Ozcan.
Ozcan decided to leave his own building before the police got involved.
“It’s a very bad feeling. I have no words for it at all,” he said. “I can understand those people somewhat, but they don’t understand me at all. Unbelievable. That this is possible in such a country.”
Police refused to comment specifically on the case and said they wouldn’t be treating the matter as urgent.
The footage is somewhat similar to video which came to light in 2016 showing an 80-year-old hotel owner in Italy being forced by police to house numerous African migrants as he desperately tries to resist government confiscation of his property.
The owner refused to house migrants after being told he would be paid just 7 euros per night for each asylum seeker, but his property was subsequently confiscated by the then left-wing government.
The so called asylum seekers are a product ,the final product of a certain group of people -lets call them deep state,or new world order ,elite ,whatever .
The government of Netherlands ,obviously has to follow the program ...
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Seahorsetoo: Please don’t throw Brexit into the mix - you have no idea of the emotional distress being caused by that situation.
Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
Brexit is 80% gesture, the two-fingered gesture. But Britain will still have the same money, media and middle class that it did before, it'll be less nationalistic than Orban's Hungary within the EU. And that could be the irony. Through Leaving Britain avoids becoming a member of the white nationalist superblock the EU implodes into.Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
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Imo the liberals are after some sort of technological wonder cure and they would be wise to suspend all their cultural policies until the doubling of the average man's quality of life and opportunity has been achieved. To keep on hammering us with immigrants in a context of scarcity is only going to go one way: Hell. But in future we could develop a matrix world for immigrants where we plug them into a tube and that is to a great extent the last you'll hear from them until they're safe to go home.
The republic of letters and the man and woman from anywhere don't simply fall from the sky. No, money, power and technology - you have to bribed into being a liberal through a life of relative luxury and ease and a future that promises more of this.
The republic of letters and the man and woman from anywhere don't simply fall from the sky. No, money, power and technology - you have to bribed into being a liberal through a life of relative luxury and ease and a future that promises more of this.
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And even then I'd describe the role of new money in liberalism as necessary, but not sufficient. It needs education, too, yet there's no shortage of people telling you why you must be liberal, but there is a shortage of reasons to be liberal. And that needs to be reversed. Give us anything like the start in life people had in the 1950s and liberalism will soon flower, deliver the opposite and don't be surprised when the attitudes of the day resemble the 1960s inverted like they do today.
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robplum: fortunately Holland has some people with a few brains
The most prolonged military expedition was the Aceh War in which a Dutch invasion in 1873 was met with indigenous guerrilla resistance and ended with an Acehnese surrender in 1912.
yeah, Netherland had it's bad periods in the past, but we became civilized. Surinam, Indonesia and other countries that were under dutch law got their own freedom and their own government. You can point at the past, we're 100 years further, we have moved forward, and you can't say that from most african and islamitic countries in the middle eastThe most prolonged military expedition was the Aceh War in which a Dutch invasion in 1873 was met with indigenous guerrilla resistance and ended with an Acehnese surrender in 1912.
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Seahorsetoo: Please don’t throw Brexit into the mix - you have no idea of the emotional distress being caused by that situation.
Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
In the Netherlands squatting was legal till a few years back, they changed the law and now it is forbidden. And squatting was only legal if a building was abandoned for over a year.Like a number of comments to this situation Brexit is an example of ‘Cut your nose off to spite your own face’. My people have been led by the nose by a group of very very clever manipulative politicians who have their own agenda. The majority of them are bullies by nature.
Europe is not the only area experiencing supra migration at the moment, or am I reading fake news?
I’m am genuinely saddened to learn of the distress experienced by the owner in Amsterdam. Possibly, but naive and failed to pay for effective security to guard the honeypot. But on the other hand - who created the law which made the squat legal. Happens all the time, by the way, it’s not just migrants. It’s been legal for the homeless to occupy abandoned property for centuries. A humane view and sensible view taken by an informed judiciary.
It’s a sad world whichever way you look at it, ain’t it?
I know Britain is facing some tough years, but in a few years you'll see the benefits, don't worry to much. I love Britain and the british people and I wish him all the best.
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Bladewound: It's not against the law to burn your own possessions. People are unlawfully squatting in HIS building! If he wants to renovate it, paint it, burn it to the ground, it's his to do with as he wishes. And they had the audacity to throw him off his own property that HE OWNS! Who the hell are THEY?? Do they belong there? No. Did he invite them there? No. Do they own it? No!
If you want your heart to bleed so much for them, let 'em come live in YOUR house.
Because fires are so controllable, eh?If you want your heart to bleed so much for them, let 'em come live in YOUR house.
If you burn down a building in a built up and populated area you put people's lives at risk. Nobody has the right to that risk, to maim, or murder whether it's people in the building you own, fire fighters, people in adjacent buildings, or the whole street if there's a gas explosion.
I find your self-righteous tantrum with no concept of the consequences exceedingly worrying.
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I'm sorry, did I ask if I cared what "you find"?
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Bladewound: I'm sorry, did I ask if I cared what "you find"?
I have no idea what you asked yourself. 
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A businessman in Amsterdam returned from vacation to find his property occupied by 40 refused asylum seekers who told him to leave.
According to a report by AT5, entrepreneur Salih Ozcan was “expelled from (his) own premises” by the migrant squatters after returning from holiday.
After recovering his property from a “bad tenant” who used it as a weed factory in January, Ozcan had refurbished the site and planned to use it for his car company.
He was shocked to discover it had been occupied by 40 failed asylum seekers who had completely trashed the place.
Referring to the piles of trash at the entrance, Ozcan said the scene was too “crazy for words,” adding, “Only rats and mice come here.”
A video shows angry African migrants confronting both Ozcan and the camera crew from the TV station. The migrants threatened to call the police if they didn’t leave immediately.
“Do I have to leave my own building?” asked an exasperated Ozcan.
Ozcan decided to leave his own building before the police got involved.
“It’s a very bad feeling. I have no words for it at all,” he said. “I can understand those people somewhat, but they don’t understand me at all. Unbelievable. That this is possible in such a country.”
Police refused to comment specifically on the case and said they wouldn’t be treating the matter as urgent.
The footage is somewhat similar to video which came to light in 2016 showing an 80-year-old hotel owner in Italy being forced by police to house numerous African migrants as he desperately tries to resist government confiscation of his property.
The owner refused to house migrants after being told he would be paid just 7 euros per night for each asylum seeker, but his property was subsequently confiscated by the then left-wing government.