Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing' ( Archived) (18)

Sep 29, 2020 6:09 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
The government has been accused of creating "doubt and uncertainty" with its announcement of

People who break a new law, which comes into force on Wednesday amid a spike in Covid-19 cases, will be fined.

Households mixing in indoor settings, such as pubs and restaurants, will be illegal, the health secretary has said.

But a council leader said a lack of detail about the measures had led to people spreading half truths and myths.

Education minister Gillian Keegan was earlier unable to clarify whether the new restrictions stopped people meeting outside in pub and restaurant gardens, as well as inside.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, she said: "I don't know the answer to that question."

Newcastle City Council's Labour leader Nick Forbes said having a "gap between what's announced in headlines and the details that people can understand" undermined the "principle of community consent".

"What that does is sow confusion, it creates doubt, it creates uncertainty," he added.

SOCIAL DISTANCING: What are the rules now?
SUPPORT BUBBLES: What are they and who can be in yours?
FACE MASKS: When do I need to wear one?
SCHOOLS: What will happen if children catch coronavirus?
TESTING: What tests are available?

Ms Keegan was pressed on how people were supposed to keep up to date with the latest restrictions when ministers could not but said: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question.

"I'm sure there are many people who could - I don't represent the North East."

The rules would be "communicated very clearly" to the people affected, she said.

The BBC has been told mixing with other households in pub gardens or outdoor restaurant spaces is not being made illegal but goes against advice.

The Department for Health and Social Care has been approached for comment and asked when the new rules would be published.

It has made clear informal childcare from family members, such as grandparents, will still be permitted but on "an exclusive basis - always the same two households".

About two million people in Newcastle, Northumberland, Gateshead, North Tyneside, South Tyneside, Sunderland and the County Durham council area had already been advised to avoid mixing but the new rules will be enforced with fines.

For those over 18 it would be £200 for a first offence and halved if paid within 14 days.

Second offences would incur a £400 fine, which would then double for each subsequent offence up to a maximum of £6,400.

Police had not been given "any notice whatsoever" that new restrictions were to be announced, Mr Forbes said.

He criticised Health Secretary Matt Hancock for announcing the changes in Parliament "without telling us he was about to do so".

Gateshead Council leader Martin Gannon accepted the rules were "necessary" but said the authority had been "inundated" by people asking for details.

"It is a bit chaotic how these things happen," he said.

The new laws on household mixing send a strong message - even though there has been some initial confusion about exactly how they will be applied.

But questions are also naturally being asked whether these rules will be applied elsewhere. The North West has areas with higher rates of infection.

In the North East, only Newcastle is in the top 10 worst affected places currently, whereas several Greater Manchester and Merseyside areas feature.

The reason for this anomaly appears to be down to North East leaders being more enthusiastic for tougher measures.



Ref Yahoo.

And this is just the beginning, how is your area.
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Sep 29, 2020 6:25 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
I must admit I'm a tad confused.
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Sep 29, 2020 6:40 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
tomcatty: I must admit I'm a tad confused.
The Prime Minister just came on TV and apologised for the lack of clarity of the latest covid instructions.

Yeh till the next time!!!!
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Sep 29, 2020 6:50 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tomcatty: The Prime Minister just came on TV and apologised for the lack of clarity of the latest covid instructions.

Yeh till the next time!!!!
What is thus story about... in five words or less please. wave
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Sep 29, 2020 6:57 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: What is thus story about... in five words or less please.
I'm afraid it can't be explained in 5 words or less, ask a responsible adult to assist you.rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 29, 2020 9:11 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: No panic or lockdown going on in Dublin Ohio
what did they do, shoot you allrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 29, 2020 9:18 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
tomcatty: what did they do, shoot you all
Franklin County
As of Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 10:57 AM EDT
Confirmed Cases27,119
3.3%Since last week
Deaths607
0.6%Since last week
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Sep 29, 2020 9:36 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tomcatty: Franklin County
As of Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 10:57 AM EDT
Confirmed Cases27,119
3.3%Since last week
Deaths607
0.6%Since last week
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Sep 29, 2020 9:53 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
My God you really believe what Trump tells you wow
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Sep 29, 2020 9:54 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
tomcatty: I must admit I'm a tad confused.
I didn't even read it, was it any good, what you wrote?
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Sep 29, 2020 11:20 AM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Bnaughty: Cheers, baldy bastárd
Cheers faceless wonderlaugh
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Sep 29, 2020 1:28 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I don't have a TV, or radio, so I have to search online for the ever changing restrictions.

It can be confusing because there are lots of articles about England and the Prime Minister's addresses are England-centric.

The restrictions in Wales have been consistently stricter because of our rate of infections, the terrain/demographic and probably our lower resources.
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Sep 29, 2020 3:03 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
tomcatty: I must admit I'm a tad confused.
I wouldn’t worry .. There’s nothing in the new rules that would affect relationship with pretend girlfriends.
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Sep 29, 2020 3:07 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
Taction
TactionTactionKilkenny, Ireland72 Posts
laugh
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Sep 29, 2020 3:09 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
7,393,030
Deaths:
210,497
Recovered:
4,637,731
Projections
Closed Cases
4,848,228
Cases which had an outcome:
4,637,731 (96%)
Recovered / Discharged

210,497 (4%)
Deaths

The above is bloody disgusting..I'm not confused because we now have zero cases in my state because we listen and abide.
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Sep 29, 2020 3:27 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
Mercedes_00: United States
Coronavirus Cases:
7,393,030
Deaths:
210,497
Recovered:
4,637,731
Projections
Closed Cases
4,848,228
Cases which had an outcome:
4,637,731 (96%)
Recovered / Discharged

210,497 (4%)
Deaths

The above is bloody disgusting..I'm not confused because we now have zero cases in my state because we listen and abide.
My daughter is currently in Sydney..
She tells me that life is pretty much normal & she puts it down to the responsibility of its citizens.
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Sep 29, 2020 3:59 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
One2note: My daughter did the exact opposite.
The only problem is that she can’t visit different states .
I'm high risk respiratory wise plus I know there are zillions of others in the same boat as me..No we can't visit other states but hey it won't always be like that.
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Sep 29, 2020 4:08 PM CST Covid-19: North East households mixing ban 'confusing'
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
Mercedes_00: I'm high risk respiratory wise plus I know there are zillions of others in the same boat as me..No we can't visit other states but hey it won't always be like that.
Unfortunately, her working visa runs out in the new year .. hopefully she may get sponsorship for another term , assuming this pandemic disappears.
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