How do you build trust ? ( Archived) (50)

Nov 3, 2020 3:15 PM CST How do you build trust ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
bodleing2: Depends on what kind of trust you mean. The common view of trust could be described as relying on someone for a further action. The dictionary definition is, "having a confident dependence on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone or something." It's something we assess from past experience and project into the future but it's open to appraisal and subject to change.
It's totally necessary in society, personal relationships and many of our day to day interactions.
I've heard it described as 'transactional trust', you do this for me and I'll do this for you. Within relationships this trust could build over a period of time but could end in an instant. Transactional trust is an emotional response to what you've experienced in the past and is subject to change by future experience....it's fundamentally fragile.
Another form of trust could be termed, 'Innate trust' which is built on more solid foundations.
Its when you have the intention to act according to your values even in difficult or confusing situations, you trust your life will unfold in the most harmonious manner possible....below is a short extract about Innate trust by Phillip Moffitt...

"Implicit in innate trust is the understanding that external conditions are in the end not a reliable source of happiness or meaning because they are always changing. You don't get what you want, or you get it and then it goes away or you no longer want it, or else something happens to you and you can no longer enjoy it. Innate trusts accepts the hard facts of life that things are always changing in this manner, the future is uncertain, and wants and fears are endless."

Then there is always what you might call, 'demand trust'. It goes something like, I'll trust you to do as I'm asking. Its trying to force what can only be freely given. Ironically, it icould be called, distrust disguised as trust. Beware of that one...
Thanks for commenting bodleing. I followed most of it until the ‘demand trust’ possibility. This sounds like a politician trying to earn their constituents trust to vote for them. laugh
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Nov 3, 2020 3:18 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
galrads: Well, don’t we all try developing different levels and kinds of trust with others on professional and personnel different levels? A dentist wants patients to trust his abilities differing from a pilot flying you on a private flight. We want our more intimate relationships to trust us in a different way to. By validating I mean being thoughtful and listening to opinions and
Well, don’t we all try developing different levels and kinds of trust with others on professional and personnel different levels? A dentist wants patients to trust his abilities differing from a pilot flying you on a private flight. We want our more intimate relationships to trust us in a different way to. By validating I mean being thoughtful and listening to opinions and maybe disagreeing with someone without shutting them down. Diplomacy has never been a strength of mine which has been a problem developing trust with some people. I’ll shut up now.
I get what you mean by validating now!! The opposite of being dismissive …thumbs up

As for pilots and dentists, I have implicit trust in the training they received … both could ruin the quality of your life just by pressing the wrong button …

One could shorten it for ever and the other could make you have to eat liquidised veg for ever uh oh
Yet not many of us get to check on the professional record of our pilots when we travel, unlike dentists who we can pick trough recommendations dunno
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Nov 3, 2020 3:34 PM CST How do you build trust ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Selenite: I get what you mean by validating now!! The opposite of being dismissive …

As for pilots and dentists, I have implicit trust in the training they received … both could ruin the quality of your life just by pressing the wrong button …

One could shorten it for ever and the other could make you have to eat liquidised veg for ever
Yet not many of us get to check on the professional record of our pilots when we travel, unlike dentists who we can pick trough recommendations
Yes and then there is this weird unconscious trust say where we feel comfortable being in multi story buildings not knowing or caring to know the qualifications of architects, engineers, laborers, materials use inspectors involved in its construction and maintenance. Have you ever been in the top of a 110 story building during a windy day? And wondered about these things. laugh
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Nov 3, 2020 3:36 PM CST How do you build trust ?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
galrads: Thanks for commenting bodleing. I followed most of it until the ‘demand trust’ possibility. This sounds like a politician trying to earn their constituents trust to vote for them.
That's why I said beware of it....laugh

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Nov 3, 2020 3:43 PM CST How do you build trust ?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
The way I see it...trust is earned and not freely given...some trust everything politicians tell them and do everything they dictate they do...the name for this is sheeple...this is trust without being earned and a large majority of politicians are habitual liars...self serving and corrupt
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Nov 3, 2020 3:46 PM CST How do you build trust ?
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
bodleing2: Depends on what kind of trust you mean. The common view of trust could be described as relying on someone for a further action. The dictionary definition is, "having a confident dependence on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone or something." It's something we assess from past experience and project into the future but it's open to appraisal and subject to change.
It's totally necessary in society, personal relationships and many of our day to day interactions.
I've heard it described as 'transactional trust', you do this for me and I'll do this for you. Within relationships this trust could build over a period of time but could end in an instant. Transactional trust is an emotional response to what you've experienced in the past and is subject to change by future experience....it's fundamentally fragile.
Another form of trust could be termed, 'Innate trust' which is built on more solid foundations.
Its when you have the intention to act according to your values even in difficult or confusing situations, you trust your life will unfold in the most harmonious manner possible....below is a short extract about Innate trust by Phillip Moffitt...

"Implicit in innate trust is the understanding that external conditions are in the end not a reliable source of happiness or meaning because they are always changing. You don't get what you want, or you get it and then it goes away or you no longer want it, or else something happens to you and you can no longer enjoy it. Innate trusts accepts the hard facts of life that things are always changing in this manner, the future is uncertain, and wants and fears are endless."

Then there is always what you might call, 'demand trust'. It goes something like, I'll trust you to do as I'm asking. Its trying to force what can only be freely given. Ironically, it icould be called, distrust disguised as trust. Beware of that one...
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Nov 3, 2020 4:06 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
galrads: Yes and then there is this weird unconscious trust say where we feel comfortable being in multi story buildings not knowing or caring to know the qualifications of architects, engineers, laborers, materials use inspectors involved in its construction and maintenance. Have you ever been in the top of a 110 story building during a windy day? And wondered about these things.
No! But have driven along really long exposed bridges that sway when it's really windy and wondered about it wow laugh
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Nov 3, 2020 4:23 PM CST How do you build trust ?
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Building trust on a site like this is completely impossible... why waste your time.
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Nov 3, 2020 4:25 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
galrads: Yes and then there is this weird unconscious trust say where we feel comfortable being in multi story buildings not knowing or caring to know the qualifications of architects, engineers, laborers, materials use inspectors involved in its construction and maintenance. Have you ever been in the top of a 110 story building during a windy day? And wondered about these things.
Is that when you lost your hair?
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Nov 3, 2020 4:26 PM CST How do you build trust ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
GeneralBeacon: Building trust on a site like this is completely impossible... why waste your time.
Maybe some of us need to grab a cigar and make like a used car salesperson to earn peoples trust. laugh
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Nov 3, 2020 4:27 PM CST How do you build trust ?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Bnaughty: Is that when you lost your hair?
I still have body hair when I don’t manscape. Want photos? rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 3, 2020 4:30 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
galrads: I still have body hair when I don’t manscape. Want photos?
Get bent
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Nov 3, 2020 4:33 PM CST How do you build trust ?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
It's a good point and displays how one kind of transactional trust works. It's based on mutual self interest. If the architects don't design well, they won't get their qualifications and subsequently won't be chosen to get the job. We trust this is the case and from there trust the building is safe.
This is something we take for granted, but without that trust society couldn't operate.
It comes from us, the people in the community and is present in our lives everyday. It has to come from the community, it's not something we expect our government to enforce, for if that were the case, we'd never trust leaving our front door....uh oh

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Nov 3, 2020 4:41 PM CST How do you build trust ?
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
galrads: Maybe some of us need to grab a cigar and make like a used car salesperson to earn peoples trust.
In terms of friends, I believe some individuals would be worth the effort in real life... like Mustang, Stan, yourself, and a few others. The women regardless of location no damn way Buddy. laugh Red however does seem cool and another one I'm chatting with not from the threads and Blogs although she does know a lot about members obviously having been here in the past. She doesn't have a positive opinion of the people in general and yet does like some.
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Nov 3, 2020 4:44 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
GeneralBeacon: In terms of friends, I believe some individuals would be worth the effort in real life... like Mustang, Stan, yourself, and a few others. The women regardless of location no damn way Buddy. Red however does seem cool and another one I'm chatting with not from the threads and Blogs although she does know a lot about members obviously having been here in the past. She doesn't have a positive opinion of the people in general and yet does like some.
Does she know your real age?
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Nov 3, 2020 5:01 PM CST How do you build trust ?
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
A lot older than your 3rd-grade mentality trolling the forums.
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Nov 3, 2020 5:01 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
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Nov 3, 2020 5:03 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
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Nov 3, 2020 5:03 PM CST How do you build trust ?
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Sorry... 2nd-grade ignorance.
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Nov 3, 2020 5:07 PM CST How do you build trust ?
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
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