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Astranea: Actually, as far as I remember (it was a long time ago), when I was reading about the etiquette and proper behaviour - a man should go first into unknown spaces - in order to protect a woman. So, I think that it isn't supposed to be wrong if a man enters a restaurant first (the restaurant being a new and unknown territory).
You know it wouldnt be the first time that i used a girlfriend as a human shield when facing danger
rohaan: This is not gender specific— many people want their way—- and it is inconsequential to them that it wrecks that of another...
We are constantly under the influence of media that seem to praise arrogant, selfish, self-centered and impolite behaviour. Heroes in TV series and films are rarely some nice, polite, kind, friendly people ready to cooperate. No, they yell, they fight, always ready to insult someone and feel insulted by everything and anything, they see their colleagues as competition and not co-workers, they don't respect their bosses, they use all sorts of deceits and manipulative techniques to advance... And we should cheer for them! Not the best role model...
Astranea: The man only said to a woman that she had a lovely dress. The same way he would say to his colleague that he had a nice tie. I see nothing insulting in such a compliment.
If a man mustn't say something so innocent to a woman - what kind of society is that and what will that do to the relationship between men and women?!
I personally don't like that kind of development, but everyone has their preferences.
I can't hear anything wrong with the compliment either ... unless he was looking her up and down in an inappropriate manner as he said it, it makes no sense ...
Astranea: We are constantly under the influence of media that seem to praise arrogant, selfish, self-centered and impolite behaviour. Heroes in TV series and films are rarely some nice, polite, kind, friendly people ready to cooperate. No, they yell, they fight, always ready to insult someone and feel insulted by everything and anything, they see their colleagues as competition and not co-workers, they don't respect their bosses, they use all sorts of deceits and manipulative techniques to advance... And we should cheer for them! Not the best role model...
If you are on a date with a gorgeous woman and when entering any restaurant you come in first. Why? It’s because the inside of the restaurant is unfamiliar territory and every gentleman’s obligation is to protect his lady companion in all unpleasant situations that may arrive.
Astranea: Actually, as far as I remember (it was a long time ago), when I was reading about the etiquette and proper behaviour - a man should go first into unknown spaces - in order to protect a woman. So, I think that it isn't supposed to be wrong if a man enters a restaurant first (the restaurant being a new and unknown territory).
I just remembered why I am in love with Eastern European women
snowlynx: But then again some people are just nuts. A good friend of mine was accused of bullying by a subordinate who he had to give out to because he wasn't pulling his weight. Most unfair as my friend is gentle and reasonable....utterly reasonable.
Yeah!! Nothing is ever straightforward Hope your friend was ok in the end ...
snowlynx: There lies the danger. What they did was elevate this woman's 'feelings' above everything else, including objective reality. Society is in a sorry state if that becomes the norm and it seems like it is the norm. Feelings, are only that, the way someone feels at a moment in time is now paramount. The danger in this should be recognised, but isn't.
Yeah but it's not just women's feelings... the same guidelines apply for men who are being harassed by their female bosses ... and it happens a lot!
If you are on a date with a gorgeous woman and when entering any restaurant you come in first. Why? It’s because the inside of the restaurant is unfamiliar territory and every gentleman’s obligation is to protect his lady companion in all unpleasant situations that may arrive.
Etiquette says that when a man and woman are walking side- by- side he take the traffic ( outside) side. This goes back to ( at least) Colonial and Old West days. (The “ gentleman” took the brunt of mud and debris spattering from horses, wagons, stagecoaches.)
rohaan: Etiquette says that when a man and woman are walking side- by- side he take the traffic ( outside) side. This goes back to ( at least) Colonial and Old West days. (The “ gentleman” took the brunt of mud and debris spattering from horses, wagons, stagecoaches.)
True.
I had a boyfriend once who grew up in Germany and all these things were very important to him. Once you get used to such nice things, you always miss them...
Maybe I should search for a German man...
All Germans I talked to online so far were always very polite and decent. It's worth thinking about...
Men will hold a door open for me here and I say thanks. If it happens to be me at the point of door holding for a man to go through then I do it all the same no big deal it’s called manners . I don’t mind either way it just happens naturally.
whoever gets to the door first should open it. simple. if you like having the door opened for you, pause while the other reaches it first. in other cases, if one has their hands full, be kind and open the door. it's a courtesy thing
LeeCharming: Do you think it should still be used? Do some women get offened...by this term and try to shame a man...if he uses it? Do you think it should be changed to Gents first instead?
This is a really dated saying may e from the Titanic. Its women who always open doors for me if I’m not with another women.
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