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Feb 7, 2021 11:26 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
blathin: What do you mean by "a higher level of consciousness" Dan?
That's quite a question given that it can mean so many different things. But we are all experiencing varying degrees of awareness, and from time to time this awareness will shift. The amount of shift towards greater awareness depends ultimately on how we use our minds. To become more aware, or reach a higher level of consciousness is a long process requiring great self discipline..
Or perhaps a few sessions with lsd lol.
Anyway, I think this site offers some answers without being affiliated to any religious cause, it's worth having a quick look....

"Closing Thoughts

Why is higher consciousness essential for a meaningful life?

Your consciousness is a powerful thing. Yet, it can be stagnant if left untapped.

Your perceptions, beliefs, and everything in between influences your reality – but it also creates it.

Without higher consciousness, we are like mechanical beings running simply on survival, without thought and enlightenment.

This is why higher consciousness is essential to purpose and happiness. Without it, you will never discover the true nature of being. The real you. The real reality of life and of yourself.

Without it, your existence will mean nothing."

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Feb 7, 2021 1:08 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
A recent video I have seen, it sounds interesting to me.
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Feb 7, 2021 1:10 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
Dan_777: You're right Bod, Buddhism is a philosophy and way of life, rather than a religion.

I also agree that one can connect to a higher power/level of consciousness without being religious and believing in a god.
All religions should be a thing you incorporate into your life to help guide you with the invisible things we struggle with in this physical life, and i agree that there's no Gods required to crack on to full awareness..
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Feb 7, 2021 1:28 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
Thazager: A recent video I have seen, it sounds interesting to me.
Yes, everything to do with the brain is fascinating!

Thanks for posting.thumbs up
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Feb 8, 2021 7:47 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Dan_777: Sorry Blathin...I got a bit carried away! Lol

I hope I've answered your question?
Not at all Dan, that was an interesting answer and one personal to yourself, which is what I was asking about...

I know you didn't ask, but I do wonder if it's not just maturity and the wisdom that comes with getting older. Granted there are plenty who'll always be very immature, but for those who do grow is that they find a level of appreciation, understanding and insight they didn't have previously....and the more nuanced that growth then the "higher their consciousness"...??? dunno

People always seem to associate consciousness with adulthood...But what about the child who is "aware" of others around him/her, or will see another child upset and try to comfort them...whereas the rest of the children won't even notice..Does that child not have a higher level of consciousness than his/her classmates?

Could a higher level of consciousness the ability to see past one's own ego?


I dunno, it's all just guess work on my part, but it's certainly an interesting subject . Maybe future generations will be far more enlightened than we are today..and find the answer, if there is one that is. bouquet
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Feb 8, 2021 8:12 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Dan_777: Yes, everything to do with the brain is fascinating!

Thanks for posting.
Oh the brain is for sure....Whats fascinating is that line between the rational thinking brain and the emotional brain...It's where things like one's beliefs and opinions are formed..

The emotional brain doesn't understand language, it's currency is emotions and feelings...the rational brain is language based and can't process emotions or feelings. Sounds a bit like a bad marraige lol.....

And (most) people have absolutely no idea either just how profoundly influenced their rational brain is by their emotional brain.

Hmm , now there's a thought...I wonder could "higher consciousness" be the ability to know where that line is and when the rational brain is being overridden by the emotional brain??? Could it be the ability to completely seperate out when your thoughts are being impacted by your emotional brain and how to rise above?? God if that is it then people are aspiring to be like Spock in Star Trek laugh
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Feb 8, 2021 8:55 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
blathin: Not at all Dan, that was an interesting answer and one personal to yourself, which is what I was asking about...

I know you didn't ask, but I do wonder if it's not just maturity and the wisdom that comes with getting older. Granted there are plenty who'll always be very immature, but for those who do grow is that they find a level of appreciation, understanding and insight they didn't have previously....and the more nuanced that growth then the "higher their consciousness"...???

People always seem to associate consciousness with adulthood...But what about the child who is "aware" of others around him/her, or will see another child upset and try to comfort them...whereas the rest of the children won't even notice..Does that child not have a higher level of consciousness than his/her classmates?

Could a higher level of consciousness the ability to see past one's own ego?


I dunno, it's all just guess work on my part, but it's certainly an interesting subject . Maybe future generations will be far more enlightened than we are today..and find the answer, if there is one that is.
Interesting questions Blathin!
I do like inquisitive people.
I myself tend to question everything...and this is the way we learn. wink

To give you a short and sweet answer to the above...
I don't think the "higher consciousness" only comes with maturity but what lifestyle we've been living and how fast we have grown.

As you say, some kids are born gifted and are more aware than others.
Some elderly people never grow spiritually.

And I know quite a few..gifted kids and immature people.

Also...some suddenly get a "spiritual awakening" through a trauma of some sort (NDE/ OBE/ a stroke/ drugs...) and it changes their life completely.

You could say that I have experienced this kind of a "awakening", but through some other kind of experience (deep meditation with OBE) and other events.

I was trained in the andean shamanic practises/energy medicine in which we had to "die" consciously. (20 years ago).with no substances whatsoever.
I went into altered states of consciousness and left the earth at the speed of light.
Then....that's when everything came clear to me. My questions were being answered at long last.
And I repeated that journey several times with a different experience.

Now, dear lady B, you may wonder if I saw anybody while I was out there?

NO! Only bright lights and energy...difficult to explain.

Believers will say that they saw Jesus or whomever fits their belief but...this is only a perception.


Anyway, my life changed since then...lifestyle and everything else I mentioned and more besides.
I have had more intuitions, have been able to communicate with the horses I used to work with while doing some healing to them.
And also with people, of course!
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Feb 8, 2021 8:59 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
blathin: Oh the brain is for sure....Whats fascinating is that line between the rational thinking brain and the emotional brain...It's where things like one's beliefs and opinions are formed..

The emotional brain doesn't understand language, it's currency is emotions and feelings...the rational brain is language based and can't process emotions or feelings. Sounds a bit like a bad marraige lol.....

And (most) people have absolutely no idea either just how profoundly influenced their rational brain is by their emotional brain.

Hmm , now there's a thought...I wonder could "higher consciousness" be the ability to know where that line is and when the rational brain is being overridden by the emotional brain??? Could it be the ability to completely seperate out when your thoughts are being impacted by your emotional brain and how to rise above?? God if that is it then people are aspiring to be like Spock in Star Trek
Blathin, I wrote a blog about the effect of learning a foreign language with our personality. And about the effect on autistic children and people with dementia.
Maybe you would like to read it?
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Feb 8, 2021 1:57 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Although I didn't contribute, I really enjoyed reading through this thread!

Thanks Dan hug kiss
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Feb 8, 2021 2:13 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
Selenite: Although I didn't contribute, I really enjoyed reading through this thread!

Thanks Dan
Hola Sel..don't worry about not contributing.
I do the same quite often.wink

Anyway...glad you enjoyed it.

Hope you're still coping in your bubble with all the restrictions? bouquet
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Feb 8, 2021 2:22 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Dan_777: Hola Sel..don't worry about not contributing.
I do the same quite often.

Anyway...glad you enjoyed it.

Hope you're still coping in your bubble with all the restrictions?
Yes quite a "bubble" here in this village ... makes it easier on a day to day basis at the moment ... our village is no longer "confined" right now so looking forward to going a little further afield like to the river etc as the weather improves... Also started working on my latest art project again which feels good bouquet
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Feb 8, 2021 2:42 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
Selenite: Yes quite a "bubble" here in this village ... makes it easier on a day to day basis at the moment ... our village is no longer "confined" right now so looking forward to going a little further afield like to the river etc as the weather improves... Also started working on my latest art project again which feels good
How nice! We can't even go to the next village 2km down the road!
But, I have an excuse when I go to the farmacia.
I love walking along the paseo there as it is nearly deserted. smitten

What art project have you started, if you don't mind my asking?

As for myself, I've finally found a young lady piano teacher who comes to my house once a week.
It's against the rules but...who cares? She's a neighbour. smile
Oh la la...madre mia!
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Feb 9, 2021 5:19 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
rockymarciano
rockymarcianorockymarcianoBellville, Western Cape South Africa9 Threads 120 Posts
WOW! What an interesting read and so many varied responses. Can anyone of you truly actually conceive of a world in which there was no religion ? Good for you because I most certainly can't. I do believe that religion has a place and a role to play in society. It seems also that religion is "culturally based" ( and I use this term loosely) where different people's from different parts of the world have a form of religion adapted to their "culture" and that takes care of religion.
The existence of an Almighty God is another story, I believe in an Almighty God and I do pray to Almighty God every day and this has got absolutely nothing to do with religion. I was born and raised in the Catholic church and even attended Catholic schools but as I got older I started to question things in much the same way as you are doing now. It's been decades since I've stopped going to church and my faith and belief in Almighty God is much stronger now than when I was going to church.
I hold a object in my hand I release it and it falls to the ground that's gravity, I look up at the sky and I see the sun and the moon then I look through a telescope and I see Jupiter and Saturn and then I read about the distant galaxies, then I look at the flowers growing in my garden and everywhere I look all I can see is conformity where all things happen in a predetermined way and this is the hand of Almighty God.
I could go on and on but just look at the atom for example and the way it works that can't just be by chance there's got to be some instruction from somewhere and that comes from Almighty God.
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Feb 9, 2021 7:08 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
rockymarciano: WOW! What an interesting read and so many varied responses. Can anyone of you truly actually conceive of a world in which there was no religion ? Good for you because I most certainly can't. I do believe that religion has a place and a role to play in society. It seems also that religion is "culturally based" ( and I use this term loosely) where different people's from different parts of the world have a form of religion adapted to their "culture" and that takes care of religion.
Hi Rocky..nice to see that you enjoyed reading about this topic.
I know, it is very controversial but...it gives the opportunity to people of different races to give their opinion and discuss this subject in a civilised manner.

"Imagine there's no heaven.....
And no religion..."

No I cannot!
As long as there are people living on this earth, there will always be some religion in one form or another.

I'm glad that you found what you were looking for! thumbs up

"Seek and you shall find".
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Feb 9, 2021 7:38 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Dan_777: How nice! We can't even go to the next village 2km down the road!
But, I have an excuse when I go to the farmacia.
I love walking along the paseo there as it is nearly deserted.

What art project have you started, if you don't mind my asking?

As for myself, I've finally found a young lady piano teacher who comes to my house once a week.
It's against the rules but...who cares? She's a neighbour.
Oh la la...madre mia!
It's great to have something to look forward to like your walks on the paseo and piano yay

I started yoga again this week! What a relief! cheering

My art project is a coming together of several years of creative works and channelings the form of which I will share with you when it's in a more advanced stage wave
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Feb 9, 2021 7:42 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
Selenite: It's great to have something to look forward to like your walks on the paseo and piano

I started yoga again this week! What a relief!

My art project is a coming together of several years of creative works and channelings the form of which I will share with you when it's in a more advanced stage
Ok Sel..I can't wait to hear all about it...or see it even!
I suppose it's something to do with painting and some abstract work?
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Feb 9, 2021 7:44 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Dan_777: Ok Sel..I can't wait to hear all about it...or see it even!
I suppose it's something to do with painting and some abstract work?
Let's exchange emails so we don't loose touch and I'll share when it's ready cool
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Feb 9, 2021 8:12 AM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777
Dan_777Dan_777Nowhereland, Murcia Spain3 Threads 439 Posts
Selenite: Let's exchange emails so we don't loose touch and I'll share when it's ready
Ok..I'm all for it!thumbs up
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Feb 9, 2021 12:36 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Dan_777: Ok..I'm all for it!
You have mail kiss
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Feb 9, 2021 1:41 PM CST Religions/Beliefs/Perceptions
Dan_777: Ok..I'm all for it!
Me too,,,
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