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Sep 3, 2021 4:49 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Heyy yoo all !! wave

Let's imagine !!
You were at work and you had some "Exchange of Opinions" with your Boss , which ended up into "Heated Conflicts" .. very mad

( Important note : Employer and Employee could belong to Any Gender.. Don't be Predetermined about that Genders !! wink )

Now , after the "Conversation" , when you returned to your seat , you were feeling sooo irritated that you started using some "Really Bad Words" for your Boss with a low-pitched voice !!

But , unfortunately , you had no idea that , exactly that moment , your Boss came out of the chamber and stood right behind you silently !!

So , when you finally "Discovered" with all your surprises , that , this whole time your Boss was standing right behind you , carefully listening all those "Adjectives" you were using to address your Boss , it was too late !!! uh oh

Now , I am asking to all of you for Suggestions , that ,

How to Manage the Situation after all this Disaster took place !!??? dunno

Also , you can share your personal experience in this matter , If anything like this ever happened to you too ?!

How did you Manage it or Were you Able to Manage it at all !!???
What was the consequences after all ???!! hmmm

Please feel free to share all your suggestion/experience in this regard ...

Have fun !! cheers
Sep 3, 2021 4:56 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Mercedes_00online today!
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I never bite the hand that feeds me
Sep 3, 2021 6:39 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Merce ! That's a very practical way to deal with it , I must say.. thumbs up

But , as it's a Hypothetical situation , so we may not need to be too practical here always !! wink
Sep 3, 2021 6:40 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Mercedes_00online today!
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Tanzila: Merce ! That's a very practical way to deal with it , I must say..

But , as it's a Hypothetical situation , so we may not need to be too practical here always !!
Sorry Tanz I can't change my reply laugh
Sep 3, 2021 6:50 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Mercedes_00: Sorry Tanz I can't change my reply
That's ok Merce !! No need to change anything... Just imagine the situation and have fun !! giggle
Sep 3, 2021 7:15 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Sunnyside200
Sunnyside200Sunnyside200Faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan41 Threads 1 Polls 1,167 Posts
Tanzila: Heyy yoo all !!

Let's imagine !!
You were at work and you had some "Exchange of Opinions" with your Boss , which ended up into "Heated Conflicts" ..

( Important note : Employer and Employee could belong to Any Gender.. Don't be Predetermined about that Genders !! )

Now , after the "Conversation" , when you returned to your seat , you were feeling sooo irritated that you started using some "Really Bad Words" for your Boss with a low-pitched voice !!

But , unfortunately , you had no idea that , exactly that moment , your Boss came out of the chamber and stood right behind you silently !!

So , when you finally "Discovered" with all your surprises , that , this whole time your Boss was standing right behind you , carefully listening all those "Adjectives" you were using to address your Boss , it was too late !!!

Now , I am asking to all of you for Suggestions , that ,

How to Manage the Situation after all this Disaster took place !!???

Also , you can share your personal experience in this matter , If anything like this ever happened to you too ?!

How did you Manage it or Were you Able to Manage it at all !!???
What was the consequences after all ???!!

Please feel free to share all your suggestion/experience in this regard ...

Have fun !!
You can't manage now .rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Now boss turn he manage all you. laugh
Sep 3, 2021 10:45 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Packersbabe1
Packersbabe1Packersbabe1Green Bay, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 9,802 Posts
Once you argued with someone, and the conversation is over that should have been the end of it, any other extra stuff after you mumbled that you thought he didn’t hear, but heard it should be a apology
Sep 3, 2021 12:04 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
You have to be out of your mind to get in an argument with your Boss.

When you disagree with what he/she said it is better to make a suggestion instead of telling the Boss that they are wrong.

My last boss was an elder attorney who was very set in her ways. Often she would say how she wanted me to do something and I would make a suggestion how the project could be organized better but she always said.....no, do it this way.....and that's what I did without any further suggestions.

I think the scenario you proposed is more in the construction field of men wearing hard hats.
Sep 3, 2021 12:11 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Would not apologize for that.

I'd try to say something funny, or boldly honest.
Hmmm, lemme see, one of these maybe:
- well if you love me any less now I'll be disappointed!
- honesty, can you dig it?
- ahh don't pretend you don't hate me too right now!
- oh don't worry, my last boss was even worse... rolling on the floor laughing

from real life there was a boss nobody liked where I worked, his name was Knut.
He was finally leaving - so over an artificial cake n coffee moment that was
as halfhearted as anything else he did.. damn awkward..
I just had to state "well, now you don't have to see us anymore either!" grin
Sep 3, 2021 12:59 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Tanzila: Heyy yoo all !!

Let's imagine !!
You were at work and you had some "Exchange of Opinions" with your Boss , which ended up into "Heated Conflicts" ..

( Important note : Employer and Employee could belong to Any Gender.. Don't be Predetermined about that Genders !! )

Now , after the "Conversation" , when you returned to your seat , you were feeling sooo irritated that you started using some "Really Bad Words" for your Boss with a low-pitched voice !!

But , unfortunately , you had no idea that , exactly that moment , your Boss came out of the chamber and stood right behind you silently !!

So , when you finally "Discovered" with all your surprises , that , this whole time your Boss was standing right behind you , carefully listening all those "Adjectives" you were using to address your Boss , it was too late !!!

Now , I am asking to all of you for Suggestions , that ,

How to Manage the Situation after all this Disaster took place !!???

Also , you can share your personal experience in this matter , If anything like this ever happened to you too ?!

How did you Manage it or Were you Able to Manage it at all !!???
What was the consequences after all ???!!

Please feel free to share all your suggestion/experience in this regard ...

Have fun !!
confused
So what if (as an employee) anyone moaned or bitched about anything?
It's never good to 'speak behind anyone's back' (often can make things worse) so a direct approach is actually best.

It thus would have been better to continue any irritations (or indeed how one felt) about 'the boss' there and then, but in this situation a disagreement was made with an exchange of opinions, then followed by a heated conflicts and an exit of the employee, followed by the boss overhearing additional comments.

This shouldn't be of any real concern.
The Boss now knows what you thought of whatever it was the disagreement was about, and also your personality.

Only 4 things could happen now:
You could be fired, but a reason would have to be given
You leave
You continue working there.
You get promoted! (for showing a sign of leadership, despite being in conflict with a superior!)

Don't ever be in a situation especially at work that you feel uncomfortable.
There are of course Employment law acts, and employee legislation which can help with any issues.
Sep 3, 2021 1:29 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
EtherealDude: So what if (as an employee) anyone moaned or bitched about anything?
It's never good to 'speak behind anyone's back' (often can make things worse) so a direct approach is actually best.

It thus would have been better to continue any irritations (or indeed how one felt) about 'the boss' there and then, but in this situation a disagreement was made with an exchange of opinions, then followed by a heated conflicts and an exit of the employee, followed by the boss overhearing additional comments.

This shouldn't be of any real concern.
The Boss now knows what you thought of whatever it was the disagreement was about, and also your personality.

Only 4 things could happen now:
You could be fired, but a reason would have to be given
You leave
You continue working there.
You get promoted! (for showing a sign of leadership, despite being in conflict with a superior!)

Don't ever be in a situation especially at work that you feel uncomfortable.
There are of course Employment law acts, and employee legislation which can help with any issues.
Not necessarily so Dude. If an employee is under a contract with his/her employer then a reason does need to be established for termination. But the majority of people employed are "At Will" meaning they can be fired for any reason. I saw a situation where the boss fired someone because he didn't like the guy.

Sep 3, 2021 2:19 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
secretagent09: Not necessarily so Dude. If an employee is under a contract with his/her employer then a reason does need to be established for termination. But the majority of people employed are "At Will" meaning they can be fired for any reason. I saw a situation where the boss fired someone because he didn't like the guy.


At-Will Defined
At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability.
Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences.


So ok, yes I was wrong and do stand corrected: an employer CAN terminate an At-Will employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability

But quite a grey area it would seem as ....
'Despite the apparent ambiguity that accompanies at-will status, numerous federal and state laws restrict employers’ abilities to fire at-will employees'

....and:
'Employment at Will' Isn't a Blank Check to Terminate Employees You Don't Like

I'm sure though anyone fired who wants recompense, can call a lawyer or attorney!
They can file a retaliation claim, a discrimination claim or a similar action.
Sep 3, 2021 2:27 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
EtherealDude: At-Will Defined
At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability.
Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences.

So ok, yes I was wrong and do stand corrected: an employer CAN terminate an At-Will employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability

But quite a grey area it would seem as ....
'Despite the apparent ambiguity that accompanies at-will status, numerous federal and state laws restrict employers’ abilities to fire at-will employees'

....and:
'Employment at Will' Isn't a Blank Check to Terminate Employees You Don't Like

I'm sure though anyone fired who wants recompense, can call a lawyer or attorney!
They can file a retaliation claim, a discrimination claim or a similar action.
Being in the legal field this is an area I know something about.
I suggested to the employee who was fired that he seek an attorney and he did. The attorney told him point blank you can't do anything about it. Even if the employee's history in that job was positive, i.e. always on time at work, finished projects in a timely manner, jot along with other employees, always got a raise every year, etc. there still wasn't a way to reinstate him at the job.

The fact that he was fired allowed him to collect unemployment which infuriated the boss.

Sorry Dude, it really is a blank check when you want to get rid of an employee.handshake
Sep 3, 2021 3:39 PM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
secretagent09: Being in the legal field this is an area I know something about.
I suggested to the employee who was fired that he seek an attorney and he did. The attorney told him point blank you can't do anything about it. Even if the employee's history in that job was positive, i.e. always on time at work, finished projects in a timely manner, jot along with other employees, always got a raise every year, etc. there still wasn't a way to reinstate him at the job.

The fact that he was fired allowed him to collect unemployment which infuriated the boss.

Sorry Dude, it really is a blank check when you want to get rid of an employee.
I know legals too, certainly not everything worldwide but these are legal facts:

Employment At Will is normal in the USA, but has an exception in Montana, where employers CANNOT fire employees for any reason, or no reason at all, as in all other US states (currently) that still adhere to the At-Will doctrine of employment.

In the UK however, all employees ARE protected as 'Employed at will' is NOT legal in the UK

‘Zero hours contract’ might be considered 'employed at will' but it's a non-legal term used to describe many different types of casual agreements between an employer and an individual.

Generally speaking, a zero hours contract is one in which the employer does not guarantee the individual any hours of work.
The employer offers the individual work when it arises, and the individual can either accept the work offered, or decide not to.
BUT, everyone on a zero hours contract is entitled to statutory employment rights.
There are NO exceptions!

A person will benefit from the employment rights associated with their employment status and individuals on a zero hours contract will either have the employment status of a ’worker’ or an ‘employee’.

There is no 'At Will' employment in the UK
(Anyone thus employed in one, should report it to the HMRC)
Sep 4, 2021 3:59 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Secret and Eather !

Both of your conversation was very informative !! I get to know so much about different work cultures , rules and regulations and even legal aspects , from you guys !! wow

Thanks for all those in depth analysis and informative comparison guys !! handshake cheers
Sep 4, 2021 4:06 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Grandsiozzie: Would not apologize for that.

I'd try to say something funny, or boldly honest.
Hmmm, lemme see, one of these maybe:
- well if you love me any less now I'll be disappointed!
- honesty, can you dig it?
- ahh don't pretend you don't hate me too right now!
- oh don't worry, my last boss was even worse...

from real life there was a boss nobody liked where I worked, his name was Knut.
He was finally leaving - so over an artificial cake n coffee moment that was
as halfhearted as anything else he did.. damn awkward..
I just had to state "well, now you don't have to see us anymore either!"
You know what Grand !

Actually in such scenario , the chances will be that , the Boss would be the one , who will feel most devastated by knowing the shocking truth that what kind of "Titles" were used by the subordinate to complement the "Reputation" of the Boss !! wink

laugh laugh laugh
Sep 4, 2021 4:52 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Tanzila: Heyy yoo all !!

Let's imagine !!
You were at work and you had some "Exchange of Opinions" with your Boss , which ended up into "Heated Conflicts" ..

( Important note : Employer and Employee could belong to Any Gender.. Don't be Predetermined about that Genders !! )

Now , after the "Conversation" , when you returned to your seat , you were feeling sooo irritated that you started using some "Really Bad Words" for your Boss with a low-pitched voice !!

But , unfortunately , you had no idea that , exactly that moment , your Boss came out of the chamber and stood right behind you silently !!

So , when you finally "Discovered" with all your surprises , that , this whole time your Boss was standing right behind you , carefully listening all those "Adjectives" you were using to address your Boss , it was too late !!!

Now , I am asking to all of you for Suggestions , that ,

How to Manage the Situation after all this Disaster took place !!???

Also , you can share your personal experience in this matter , If anything like this ever happened to you too ?!

How did you Manage it or Were you Able to Manage it at all !!???
What was the consequences after all ???!!

Please feel free to share all your suggestion/experience in this regard ...

Have fun !!
You should not disrespect your boss like that, I would sack youangel
Sep 4, 2021 5:09 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Sunnyside200
Sunnyside200Sunnyside200Faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan41 Threads 1 Polls 1,167 Posts
tomcatty: You should not disrespect your boss like that, I would sack you
Tom never lying Tanzila. Enjoy your night tom wink laugh
Sep 4, 2021 5:12 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Tanzila: Secret and Eather !

Both of your conversation was very informative !! I get to know so much about different work cultures , rules and regulations and even legal aspects , from you guys !!

Thanks for all those in depth analysis and informative comparison guys !!
teddybear
It's a pleasure Tanzila, glad to help out thumbs up
Rules in India likely to differ from those US/UK legals (plus I have limited knowledge of Indian law!) but found this rather good PDF which may be of use, should you or anyone else need it?

uh oh
Links are usually forbidden in the forum, but I'm sure they would mind this helpful guide being posted:

Sep 4, 2021 6:18 AM CST Who Let The Boss Out !!!
Thank you so much Ether ! wave

Definitely , the people , who will be interested to know more about it , will find this helpful .. thumbs up
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