Is Marriage no longer necessary? ( Archived) (67)

Nov 7, 2022 12:05 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
Choosing the wrong partner and the desire for instant gratification is what makes people fail in their relationships, especially more so today.
Unrealistic outlook on what a marriage is, all the glitter and weird romanticism.
Lack of work put into the connection and no responsibility on both ends.
Marriage isn't a walk in the park it should be looked after and cared for.
Not many are ready to do that.
I know so many people who have been in a"serious" relationship for many years and then suddenly marry someone else in a blink of an eye...
It should be easier to marry at older age, as we are supposed to be more mature and more wise.
Right?
But itseems to be easier to become cynical and egotistical instead?!
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Nov 7, 2022 12:24 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: Is that that the reason? Personally I think it may have something to do with the fact women no longer need to stay in unworkable marriages because they don't work and have little choice. Women having careers means they have choices....
What choices exactly?
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Nov 7, 2022 12:33 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Youcannow: What choices exactly?
The choices to not stay married, to move to a different house, to move to a different town, to start over...
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Nov 7, 2022 12:39 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Ten_of_cupss: Choosing the wrong partner and the desire for instant gratification is what makes people fail in their relationships, especially more so today.
Unrealistic outlook on what a marriage is, all the glitter and weird romanticism.
Lack of work put into the connection and no responsibility on both ends.
Marriage isn't a walk in the park it should be looked after and cared for.
Not many are ready to do that.
I know so many people who have been in a"serious" relationship for many years and then suddenly marry someone else in a blink of an eye...
It should be easier to marry at older age, as we are supposed to be more mature and more wise.
Right?
But itseems to be easier to become cynical and egotistical instead?!
yes it could be the blink of an eye ,,,,,depending on which eye your referring to .......
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Nov 7, 2022 12:43 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
If you truely love someone yes marriage is necessary. aint got nothing to do with men cant have babies news flash women cant either. only men and women can have babies. its not a buisness contract thats when u have a partner. when you truely love someone you have a wife or husband. if you got any standards you'll do your best not to loose your wife/husband.
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Nov 7, 2022 12:44 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: The choices to not stay married, to move to a different house, to move to a different town, to start over...
Do men have the same choice , or it it exclusively for women ?
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Nov 7, 2022 12:47 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Youcannow: Do men have the same choice , or it it exclusively for women ?
Men have always had that choice because they have always worked and had carreers...
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Nov 7, 2022 12:49 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: Men have always had that choice because they have always worked and had carreers...
Not all men have careers confused
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Nov 7, 2022 12:59 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
lonelytiger68: If you truely love someone yes marriage is necessary. aint got nothing to do with men cant have babies news flash women cant either. only men and women can have babies. its not a buisness contract thats when u have a partner. when you truely love someone you have a wife or husband. if you got any standards you'll do your best not to loose your wife/husband.
It's only fairly recently, about that marriage and love have been synonymous. Up to as little as around 150 years ago the purpose of marriage was to bring stability to the culture rather than make the individuals happy. Probably the vast majority of history's marriages would by todays standards be described as loveless.
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Nov 7, 2022 1:08 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
bodleing2: It's only fairly recently, about that marriage and love have been synonymous. Up to as little as around 150 years ago the purpose of marriage was to bring stability to the culture rather than make the individuals happy. Probably the vast majority of history's marriages would by todays standards be described as loveless.
Thanks for that useless information thumbs up
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Nov 7, 2022 1:34 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Selenite: Is that that the reason? Personally I think it may have something to do with the fact women no longer need to stay in unworkable marriages because they don't work and have little choice. Women having careers means they have choices....
I definitely can’t disagree with what you said. I have many opinions on this subject. Like, there are many reasons people get married and break up. I see the traditional reasons for marriage devalued. People find it easier to walk out of a marriage because they find doing that is easier than working at problems they face in the relationship. Traditional marriage roles are obsolete with women being empowered today ending the need for financial security that was based on someone else. At the same time, I wonder what happens to both men and women's self reliance post some sort of natural catastrophe, devastation by war, or severely diminished reliable sources of energy (or combination.)
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Nov 7, 2022 1:49 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
I think marriage still has its place. Me and my partner are married and we are owners of two businesses and three properties which we both bought and paid for together and are completely debt free now. If one of us died and we weren’t married then where would our joint efforts go to? Simple question is not to the joint partner.there would be interference from his other children from his ex marriage.
Everything we built together could be taken away just by the fact we didn’t sign that little piece of paper to begin our journey with. It’s also important to me when you consider yourself next of kin if a funeral happens. Only you will know how your partner wants his funeral to be and it’s something that must be discussed. Like he knows what I want and I know what he wants. I also need to be the first to be called if something happens to him and vice versa
So yes marriage is still important if you plan on building something worthwhile.
Marriage is a building block to making a future.
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Nov 7, 2022 1:56 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Only if there's a local community to pile in and make sure you stay married for the good of the town and you.
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Nov 7, 2022 2:17 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Youcannow: Not all men have careers
Did most men not have jobs? A trade? A profession?
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Nov 7, 2022 2:21 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: It's only fairly recently, about that marriage and love have been synonymous. Up to as little as around 150 years ago the purpose of marriage was to bring stability to the culture rather than make the individuals happy. Probably the vast majority of history's marriages would by todays standards be described as loveless.
Stability to the culture? confused
In what way did marrying girls/young women off for expending the family's assets bring stability to the culture? Which culture are you taking about? confused
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Nov 7, 2022 2:22 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: Did most men not have jobs? A trade? A profession?
Men did what that had to , to provide for their family .
Marriages lasted longer because women respected their husbands , not because they had no choice .
Maybe you’ve had bad experiences, but that doesn’t reflect your reasoning
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Nov 7, 2022 2:25 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
My apologies for the duplicate. I hit "send" when I was "previewing". ;)
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Nov 7, 2022 2:26 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
galrads: I definitely can’t disagree with what you said. I have many opinions on this subject. Like, there are many reasons people get married and break up. I see the traditional reasons for marriage devalued. People find it easier to walk out of a marriage because they find doing that is easier than working at problems they face in the relationship. Traditional marriage roles are obsolete with women being empowered today ending the need for financial security that was based on someone else. At the same time, I wonder what happens to both men and women's self reliance post some sort of natural catastrophe, devastation by war, or severely diminished reliable sources of energy (or combination.)
Women ran factories and countries while men were fighting and dying during world war l and wwll...
Women are resilient and would and do support one another post devastation rather than be in competition.

Some marriage problems are not solvable.
What do you think was the traditional reason for marriage?
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Nov 7, 2022 2:42 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: Stability to the culture?
In what way did marrying girls/young women off for expending the family's assets bring stability to the culture? Which culture are you taking about?
Marriages were contracted arrangements made to produce, protect and nurture the young, this would preserve the tribe, to transmit social and religious values, not to mention channel anarchic libido in useful directions.
No, despite what the song says, love and marriage seldom went together like a horse and carriage.
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Nov 7, 2022 2:53 PM CST Is Marriage no longer necessary?
"Is Marriage no longer necessary"

Not only that but best avoided if you ask me.

Go up on a high hill the two of you,
and before God alone declear yourself husband and wife.
And then a moment of silence.
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