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Nov 19, 2022 5:12 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
A calm mind attracts goodwill and a disturbed mind attracts illwill.
Everyone is good in a calm-mind. If you want to know a person properly, then see how that person reacts in disturbed-mind.
The reason for your disturbed-mind can be anything. When anger, hatred, jealousy, greed, fear, ego, lust etc. dominate a person's mind, then how much change occurs in his/her behavior.
The difference between the behavior of calm-mind and the behavior of disturbed-mind is the right assessment of the person.

Have you ever observed the difference between the behavior of your calm mind and your disturbed mind?
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Nov 20, 2022 7:02 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Decent_Love: A calm mind attracts goodwill and a disturbed mind attracts illwill.
Everyone is good in a calm-mind. If you want to know a person properly, then see how that person reacts in disturbed-mind.
The reason for your disturbed-mind can be anything. When anger, hatred, jealousy, greed, fear, ego, lust etc. dominate a person's mind, then how much change occurs in his/her behavior.
The difference between the behavior of calm-mind and the behavior of disturbed-mind is the right assessment of the person.

Have you ever observed the difference between the behavior of your calm mind and your disturbed mind?
I don't know if a disturbed mind tells you what you need to know about a person. But a disturbing situation, yes. You don't know much about anyone without a disturbing situation because it's the sheltered life of the great untested, which is why couples who don't argue are not in love.
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Nov 20, 2022 7:30 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
If your mind is calm then you are half asleep.
Your mind is always on the go and if that means disturbed, yes, it has too many things to process.
And I am not saying it in a bad way.
Meditation isn't a natural state of mind and if it means it is the only calm moment your mind can have I'd happily skip it.
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Nov 20, 2022 9:09 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: If your mind is calm then you are half asleep.
Your mind is always on the go and if that means disturbed, yes, it has too many things to process.
And I am not saying it in a bad way.
Meditation isn't a natural state of mind and if it means it is the only calm moment your mind can have I'd happily skip it.
I couldn't disagree more with any of that.
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Nov 20, 2022 10:23 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: I couldn't disagree more with any of that.
It is your right to do so laugh
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Nov 20, 2022 10:28 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Indeed, I recognise 'balderdash' when I see it.

I love that word....laugh
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Nov 20, 2022 10:48 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: Indeed, I recognise 'balderdash' when I see it.

I love that word....
Now, now, no need to look down on me, Bod.
I also have the right to not accept your views.
Whatever you believe is your own thing, let me have my own vision and experience. scold
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Nov 20, 2022 10:56 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Now, now, no need to look down on me, Bod.
I also have the right to not accept your views.
Whatever you believe is your own thing, let me have my own vision and experience.
It's not about having a view, it's about scientifically proven facts. Your post shows you have done little or no research on the subject of meditationn.
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Nov 20, 2022 11:14 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: It's not about having a view, it's about scientifically proven facts. Your post shows you have done little or no research on the subject of meditationn.
Do you know that there are people who can not meditate?
Well, I am one of them.
Meditation isn't my thing, can I live without it, yes, I can!
Thank you!
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Nov 20, 2022 11:20 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
jagtom
jagtomjagtomocean city, Devon, England UK138 Threads 1 Polls 1,125 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Do you know that there are people who can not meditate?
Well, I am one of them.
Meditation isn't my thing, can I live without it, yes, I can!
Thank you!
Maybe the God of zen, Bod, can teach youlaugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
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Nov 20, 2022 11:22 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Friendship4ever
Friendship4everFriendship4everSan Bernardino, California USA2 Threads 1,466 Posts
I'm calm until you disturb me. banana
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Nov 20, 2022 11:24 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
had enough fear developed voices in the head, pure hell

on the mend still shell-shocked sometimes

not2bad nowcheers
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Nov 20, 2022 11:35 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Do you know that there are people who can not meditate?
Well, I am one of them.
Meditation isn't my thing, can I live without it, yes, I can!
Thank you!
There is no such thing as not being able to meditate. If you can breath, you can meditate.
What really caught my eye in your post was when you claimed that when someone meditates they are half asleep. This shows how little you know about the nature of meditation, or the many conclusive studies into the effects on the mind of an experienced meditator.
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Nov 20, 2022 11:52 AM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: There is no such thing as not being able to meditate. If you can breath, you can meditate.
What really caught my eye in your post was when you claimed that when someone meditates they are half asleep. This shows how little you know about the nature of meditation, or the many conclusive studies into the effects on the mind of an experienced meditator.
Please, can you leave me alone with your preaching?
I know the mind is not half asleep, I said it in regard that I prefer my mind to be bouncing and busy.
To each their own.
I don't need to meditate to be calm and fulfilled as I have no problem achieving it.
I prefer my own ways of being...
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Nov 20, 2022 12:00 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
You should meditate on that!
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Nov 20, 2022 12:02 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Please, can you leave me alone with your preaching?...
Of course, I wouldnt want you to get more aggitated than you clearly are.

wine
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Nov 20, 2022 1:10 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Decent_Love: A calm mind attracts goodwill and a disturbed mind attracts illwill.
Everyone is good in a calm-mind. If you want to know a person properly, then see how that person reacts in disturbed-mind.
The reason for your disturbed-mind can be anything. When anger, hatred, jealousy, greed, fear, ego, lust etc. dominate a person's mind, then how much change occurs in his/her behavior.
The difference between the behavior of calm-mind and the behavior of disturbed-mind is the right assessment of the person.

Have you ever observed the difference between the behavior of your calm mind and your disturbed mind?
First of all I disagree with the term ''disturbed mind'' in the context you are using it.
Agitated would be a better description.

Secondly, having emotions/feelings and expressing them is not a sign of a ''disturbed mind''.
The way in which those emotions are expressed are important though. A way of expressing one's anger for example could be to say (even shout) ''I feel too angry to talk about this right now'' and so even though the person feels agitated they won't ''act upon their anger to harm someone or be verbally abusive'' even though they feel angry.
Same for other emotions. It's not feeling those emotions that makes anyone ''disturbed'' but rather how aware they are of those emotions and how they ''manage'' them.

The ''right assessment'' of a person is how they manage their emotions (Emotional Intelligence) not to never have emotions ...
In my opinion ...
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Nov 20, 2022 4:31 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
KarloradoFL
KarloradoFLKarloradoFLDeLeon Springs, Florida USA50 Threads 3 Polls 9,475 Posts
Calm Mind:
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Disturbed Mind:
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Nov 20, 2022 5:17 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
My mind is calm these days, wasn't always the case though
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Nov 20, 2022 6:46 PM CST calm-mind vs disturbed-mind
Well, the mind is never be 100% calmed, even while sleeping the mind is busy in dreams, it is completely quiet only when the mind becomes thoughtless.
Goodwill or illwill comes according to whatever thoughts and feelings are in the mind at that time.
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