Also clear. But what do you think about suicide? I think that suicide is without dignity in every form. Even if a person is fatally ill and full of pain, I think that suicide is never justified and is always undignified in every case. Dignity is only to be spoken of when suffering and pain are endured and the best and highest qualities are learned from this. But suicide, in every form, is and remains an escape from and out of life and from one’s own responsibility toward one's life’s duty and one's life’s meaning.
However, suicide is also an escape from one’s own evolution as well as an irresponsible breaking away from one’s obligation to exhaust life fully, bear everything with dignity, and endure that which life brings. Suicide, in each and every relation, is a free escape from each and every duty and responsibility towards oneself and towards those who remain, as well as from the evolutionary duties that are to be fulfilled up to the last day of life. And with suicide, in a strict sense,
I also associate euthanasia and medically assisted suicide in a direct or indirect form. Suicide remains an ignoble and unforgivable suicide, and anyone who provides assistance to suicide makes himself guilty of murder. That’s how I see it, in accordance with the creational laws.
I think people should maybe try and imagine how much suffering a person is going through to decide to end their life. It's not an easy way out, a cop out, a cowards way out, a surrender.....it' a fu@king tragedy that is beyond comprehension for those who have never been there.
It can be hard - sometimes impossible - to notice that somebody is having suicidal thoughts.
"Anybody can feel suicidal. But we can all help save a life.
By starting a conversation, we can all help stop suicide. By removing the stigma that surrounds suicide, we can make it an everyday conversation. Together we can make it easier for everyone to talk about how they’re feeling. Openly. Without judgement. Without shame. So that no one has to struggle on their own."
truheart1941brentwood, Essex, England UK25,171 posts
after reading this thred . i think i have solved the problem,of why the membership has declined over the years.....plus recent times. having been on here for a short while , and reading the forums...........people who were normal,before they joined. their brain is telling them....how to release them selves....before they end up in a mental,institution........their eyes view the gas stove........or step out while the lights are red.????????
truheart1941: after reading this thred . i think i have solved the problem,of why the membership has declined over the years.....plus recent times. having been on here for a short while , and reading the forums...........people who were normal,before they joined. their brain is telling them....how to release them selves....before they end up in a mental,institution........their eyes view the gas stove........or step out while the lights are red.????????
bodleing2: I think people should maybe try and imagine how much suffering a person is going through to decide to end their life. It's not an easy way out, a cop out, a cowards way out, a surrender.....it' a fu@king tragedy that is beyond comprehension for those who have never been there.
bodleing2: Yes, using an old but affectionate term....'he's a card isnt he.'
Love him. If the world was full of folk like Tru I see no reason anylonger to throw ourselves of cliffs so those would be discarded and leveled out into nice white sandy beaches
Grandsiozzie: Love him. If the world was full of folk like Tru I see no reason anylonger to throw ourselves of cliffs so those would be discarded and leveled out into nice white sandy beaches
I have known many suicides. A farmer who got frail and old and had told his family when that day came he would. And did to not burden his family. One who drank to oblivion along with his wife and had a miserable existence. Another whos life after Nam was a mess, drank to the point of smashing his car up cause he didn't care. Another man whos wife drove him to hell and back and he said why live. In the last two years, a 20 year old because his girlfriend left him. In the other cases, they felt they were doing their family a service. In the last, a boy who never was taught by society to have coping skills. The young are ignorant of the fact that dead is dead. Forever. They feel their lives have no use or wish to punish others. That is what makes suicide a selfish act. My dad told me about the time he contemplated it. He had survived war, divorce and losing his factory. He said he was sitting on a bench by the river, stuffing cardboard in his shoe to cover a hole. He looked at the river and thought what is the use. Why go on when it always turns to crap. A pigeon flew over and dropped a doody on his head. He said he thought yep..as far down as one can get and then a bird uses you for a toilet. And he stared to chuckle and finally laugh. No matter how far down you go, there is always worse that could be. So he got up, went and found a job, saved and started up in business again. That time he faced another bankruptcy and divorce. And started again and that time ended up with everything I knew him with. That is called strength.
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