I "wish"....and....I "will" ( Archived) (69)

Dec 29, 2007 8:17 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Helloo Konigs wave hug

I like your new pic wine
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Dec 29, 2007 8:19 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Depends on the society. In western society we are taught to achieve material gains. We are taught to be a one man team and any loses are our fault.
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Dec 29, 2007 8:22 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
I have taken just this approach you mention, by ditching everything from my past and rampaging towards the future...though i have a few things where i have to recall the past after there done i will become an entirely person by next year, and hopefully the new phase will start very, very shortly.

Lifes what you make it, we are all creatures of out lifes experience, some have charmed lives, some have awful, some have theirs torn to pieces by events out of their control or influence.

I try to forget, but some things are not easy to forget.....but i am proud of some of the choices i made, and some haunt my every waking moment.

That said, every day above ground is a good one...theres always something good in each day.
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Dec 29, 2007 8:24 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Hey Girl with a beautiful smile grin
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Dec 29, 2007 8:25 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Excellent Robbie..

Thats me too thumbs up
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Dec 29, 2007 8:25 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
laugh wave
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Dec 29, 2007 8:25 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
thumbs up
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Dec 29, 2007 8:36 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Urs ... i sense there is a huge difference in "I wish" and "I will" ....

"I wish" is for dreamers, people who do afraid to take that first step to actually accomplish something

When we say I will ... it is like a promise there is no way to turn around otherwise we will be unable to get selfrespect back. JMO wave
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Dec 29, 2007 8:38 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
thumbs up
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Dec 29, 2007 8:38 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Christina Aguilera

Ain't No Other Man
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Dec 29, 2007 8:39 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Oh lmao.. wrong thread.. haha blushing
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Dec 29, 2007 8:52 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Dknew
DknewDknewBarrington, New Hampshire USA262 Threads 10 Polls 7,077 Posts
I Don't spend my life wishing, I go with what I have and try to improve on it.
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Dec 29, 2007 9:18 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
I rather feel partial to Detente's post; the only things that I will add are that for myself, far too many "I Will's" have turned into "I wishes". I really didn't pay much attention to my plate of choices and simply, very narrowly, forged ahead without any regards for possible regrets at the costs. Whole worlds of possibilities were totally ignored.(BIG slap on head!)
"God given rights"?? There is no such thing in this life. Virtually any and everything depends upon the decisions; the moods of others always more "powerful" than one's self. They can always pull whatever platforms you may have right from under you. When it becomes a way of life, many give up; many do lose heart, be it career wise, be it marriage, be it love. Unfortunately there are always more losers than winners. It would be a much more beautiful world, a much more inspiring world if there were more winners...
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Dec 29, 2007 9:20 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
No Phil...they didn't have the same opportunities...just as i didn't have the same opportunities that perhaps Donald Trump did...however, I don't envy him...

All i know is i want the best "MY" life has to offer me...and i know that its not going to happen unless "I" make it happen for me..

Fortunate and Gifted?...No one really realizes their fortune and gift until it is compared so someone else's misfortune...

Have i seen it?...Yes Phil...its what "drives" me...its what "encourages" me when i am at the end of my rope...its my empathy and compassion for them that strengthens me to be a better person

Can i save the world? No....

Can I educate myself as to the suffering so i don't contribute further to it...yes
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Dec 29, 2007 9:23 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
And just to add to your post Solitare (my own opinion of course)....

If society continues to offer "excuses" and "easy way outs"...I believe we lose perspective...lose focus...and ultimately give up
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Dec 29, 2007 9:29 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
That's called compassion and social responsibility by the way...those 'easy way outs' and excuses'.

Helping the emotionally unwell, the poor unfortunates we'd rather not see too much of...helping them to get on their feet again...I think it's kinda sweet of the more successful to pay those taxes Ursilla.wine

I know you're generalising...but jeezuz, each person carries their own unique pain and burden.

If somebody's given up, that's tragic.

If somebody has stopped wanting to help themselves, what do we do as civilised people?

I don't like lazy people...I'll just state that now.handshake
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Dec 29, 2007 9:39 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Dknew
DknewDknewBarrington, New Hampshire USA262 Threads 10 Polls 7,077 Posts
Old saying " Wish in one hand and crap in the other see which fills up faster"
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Dec 29, 2007 9:45 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
..."If somebody has stopped wanting to help themselves, what do we do as civilised people?"...

If someone has stopped wanting to help themself...what do you propose then Phil...how exactly does one go about forcing others to want to have a will to live...a will to fight...a will to accomplish something in their life....

I'm not sure what the formula is for instilling the drive i have to do something worthwhile with my life in others....what have i missed here?

..."If somebody's given up, that's tragic."...

Yes it is Phil...my heart breaks for them, but do i feel guilty because i will not allow anything to pull the platform out from under me?...No way!!

Just the other day we had a snow storm over here....the guy next door is happy to sit inside and collect unemployment, me?...I was out there shovelling like a mad woman....I sat in the driveway and CRIED when i had to shovel it for the third time...every inch of my body hurt and the snow was piled HIGHER THAN ME on both sides of my driveway...you know why i continued shovelling Phil?....I have two children to look after...and a job that i owe a responsibility to...

I could have sat home on welfare....but i CHOSE not to...I also owe it to my children to teach them not to accept handouts if they are capable of making a way in life on their own...
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Dec 29, 2007 9:58 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
Your whole tone is as if you're delighted to have succeeded in the manner you have, so why can't 'they' do the same.

Too simplistic, and ever so slightly smug.

You are doing what you are able to do...well done Ursilla...I'm genuinely pleased for you.

And as you are very much afraid of maintaining your circumstances, understandably to some degree in that you have children, you're going to do your level best to protect ehat is yours.

Fine.

But those two questions I posed you are simple to answer. You firstly support, then educate. Take them off the streets...give them an income...assess their mental and emotional states, then go from there.

Social responsibility Ursilla...plain and simple.

And let me just say this: if we, as a society STOP feeling compassion to those less able than ourselves, we have become blinkered and desensitized...without empathy.

We've forgotten our roots...and have entered into the realms of smug, self satisfaction.

We are basically perpetuating this whole sorry mess.wine
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Dec 29, 2007 10:08 PM CST I "wish"....and....I "will"
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
By the way, you are doing very well in bringing up your children not to accept handouts, and instilling many fine values I'm sure.

But many other kids don't have those luxuries...they get the opposite in fact.

and therin lies the problems of tomorrow...those kids growing up with warped senses of familihood and relating in general.

That is where the help needs to be focussed...the family!

It is what societies are built on.

If you had a cleaner, would you be prepared to pay her a little more so she could help her kids enjoy childhood Ursilla?wine
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