who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church? ( Archived) (146)

Aug 17, 2008 5:11 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
HealthyLiving: Just scratch the "secular" and this is also what I believe. To me it is a spiritual experience. We must all humble ourselves before all creation.


since you're a part of creation, how would one go about humbling oneself before oneself? confused

I always awe me.. tongue
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Aug 17, 2008 5:15 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
thewall2: It's bulls.hit,you don't have to got to church to find a good woman.


Thats right! You can find one in any bar! laugh
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Aug 17, 2008 5:18 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
BnaturAl: since you're a part of creation, how would one go about humbling oneself before oneself?

I always awe me..


It takes some work, Al. Death to self and selfish desires is the act.
Putting God FIRST,
Others SECOND
and Me LAST!!!

This is Humility. (to me)

Love you dear, missed talking with you lately!!!!hug lips
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Aug 17, 2008 5:23 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
HealthyLiving: Just scratch the "secular" and this is also what I believe. To me it is a spiritual experience. We must all humble ourselves before all creation.


At the end of the day a religious person needs to believes that nature was created by a supernatural being where as an atheist does not and is perfectly happy to allow science to explain it while they are filled with awe, where it gets confusing is when the word spiritual comes into it , Einstein even used the word god to explain it while he was very clear that he did not believe in a personal god , he just used the word , you can see where it can start to be confusing !!!



"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.
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Aug 17, 2008 5:25 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
Some may have luck at church, it is possible to have luck anywhere I suppose, but at church their are alot of people that that just play church, they don't live it but for you, it might work out, me personally I don't want someone that plays church. I want a beleiver like myself(Chirstian) different strokes for different folks..cheers
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Aug 17, 2008 5:29 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HealthyLiving: It takes some work, Al. Death to self and selfish desires is the act.
Putting God FIRST,
Others SECOND
and Me LAST!!!

This is Humility. (to me)

Love you dear, missed talking with you lately!!!!
Nope,Humility is being Right Size,Not assuming the attributes of a Worm!!
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Aug 17, 2008 5:38 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
HealthyLiving: It takes some work, Al. Death to self and selfish desires is the act.
Putting God FIRST,
Others SECOND
and Me LAST!!!

This is Humility. (to me)

Love you dear, missed talking with you lately!!!!


Thats quite a mixer, you being part of all creation and finding a way to subjugate parts of it (you + others {leaving out other creatures as well}) as though they are less awesome ... that awes me too smile but, consciousness is a wonderful thing, with which one can fashion their own crazy world.

Do you ever wonder if you've fallen in a large vat of compote and got stuck there? Aunt Maggie's Compote Syrup?

who made god? This is the conundrum of making gods, you always have to make one with a higher power to be the maker of the one of lower power, and then another and another.

pew. laugh
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Aug 17, 2008 5:43 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Conrad73: Nope,Humility is being Right Size,Not assuming the attributes of a Worm!!



confused times like this I can hear the bolts rattling in my head when I shake it.

And then I look at what you said a little longer and remember it's you saying it and then I go ... oh ya , I get it laugh
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Aug 17, 2008 5:46 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
crotalus_p: At the end of the day a religious person needs to believes that nature was created by a supernatural being where as an atheist does not and is perfectly happy to allow science to explain it while they are filled with awe, where it gets confusing is when the word spiritual comes into it , Einstein even used the word god to explain it while he was very clear that he did not believe in a personal god , he just used the word , you can see where it can start to be confusing !!!
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.



As most know, Einstein or no one else can influence my beliefs. I believe what I KNOW. I can only speak from my own experience. I will not disbelieve because Einstein did not believe. Neither will I believe because Jesus or any other Christian believed. I believe because of what I experience in my daily life with the Holy Spirit.

To those who have not have my experience or any of their own, they are free to believe as they will. I am not here to argue that.

I simply wanted understanding of what Athiest believe. I still believe that it comes from an individual understanding of what each perceives, not that the whole of Athiesism would believe exactly the same. Just as all Christians do not stand in agreement in everything.
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Aug 17, 2008 5:49 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: Thats right! You can find one in any bar!



I've done all the STRIPS.....it ain't easy.laugh
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Aug 17, 2008 5:50 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
HealthyLiving: As most know, Einstein or no one else can influence my beliefs.


I was just trying to point out how it can be slightly confusing when we talk about atheism and spirituality ,


wave lips teddybear lips
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Aug 17, 2008 5:51 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
thewall2: I've done all the STRIPS.....it ain't easy.


That's cause I was at the other bar.....wave love grin hug lips
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Aug 17, 2008 5:59 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
fireliter: first I'll share this, a couple of people have used this ploy to get me to attend church. I am not ready nor do I want marriage ...at this time anyway.

What I currently "think" I want is all the nuances of a relationship without the bindings of the religious description of a good relationship.
That meaning being "marriage minded ".

would you ever suggest for someone to attend church to find a "good woman/man"?


Nah!!! But you could go to church to find out all the "naughty"ones!!!

It's a 4 part thing:
1. attend church and start dating one of the "church goers"
2. take her out locally she will be sure to point out to you all the "bad/naughty one"!!!
3. religiously make notes of names and "stories" attached to each
4. break up with "church goer" and decide on plan of "action"

conversing

uh oh
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Aug 17, 2008 6:01 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
FlowerOfTheSun: Nah!!! But you could go to church to find out all the "naughty"ones!!!

It's a 4 part thing:
1. attend church and start dating one of the "church goers"
2. take her out locally she will be sure to point out to you all the "bad/naughty one"!!!
3. religiously make notes of names and "stories" attached to each
4. break up with "church goer" and decide on plan of "action"




Damn that is kinda bogus don't you think......thumbs down
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Aug 17, 2008 6:06 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
Tater: Damn that is kinda bogus don't you think......


Only a joke that I kindda adapted!!! laugh


All looked soooooooooooooooo serious I thought I'd bring a bit MORE controversy into it!!!


Should I have used rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing to show I wasn't serious? doh
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Aug 17, 2008 6:07 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: That's cause I was at the other bar.....





wave
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Aug 17, 2008 7:27 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
HealthyLiving: Are not these women everywhere you look, not only in church???




Thank you! You made my point!grin
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Aug 17, 2008 8:20 PM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
I would rather have a "bad" woman....devil
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Aug 18, 2008 9:07 AM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
BnaturAl: Thats quite a mixer, you being part of all creation and finding a way to subjugate parts of it (you + others {leaving out other creatures as well}) as though they are less awesome ... that awes me too but, consciousness is a wonderful thing, with which one can fashion their own crazy world.

Do you ever wonder if you've fallen in a large vat of compote and got stuck there? Aunt Maggie's Compote Syrup?

who made god? This is the conundrum of making gods, you always have to make one with a higher power to be the maker of the one of lower power, and then another and another.

pew.


Al, I simply answered your question of how I would humble myself before myself. You did not ask me of other creatures. Of course I believe in UNITY with no only mankind, but all creatures and all of nature.

peace
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Aug 18, 2008 11:05 AM CST who here believes, to find a good man/woman one should go to church?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
HealthyLiving: It would depend upon the individuals perspective. I myself believe that none are anymore worthy than the other, be it plants animals or mankind. Living in harmony with all of Nature and the Universe which encompesses us...


cool, then we can dismiss your previous hierchal order of humilty and praise!!!


wine peace


however; naked, is above all other things rolling on the floor laughing
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