Czechs say Russian spies stir against U.S. ( Archived) (51)

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PRAGUE (Reuters) - Russian spies are extremely active in the Czech Republic and are stirring public sentiment against a planned U.S. missile defense base, the Czech counter-intelligence agency said on Thursday.



In a 2007 annual report, the Security Information Service (BIS) said Russian spies' wider aim may be to weaken the integrity of the NATO alliance and isolate the United States.

The United States plans to build a radar station in the Czech Republic and place interceptor rockets in Poland as part of its global shield against ballistic missiles that it says could be fired by adversaries such as Iran.

Russia, increasingly aggressive in foreign policy, fiercely opposes the plan, which will bring U.S. military hardware into countries that once belonged to the former Soviet empire.

"The intelligence services of the Russian Federation have attempted in the past year to contact, infiltrate and influence people and organizations that have influence on public opinion," the BIS report said.

"Russian espionage activities in the Czech Republic currently reach an exceptionally high intensity."

The plan to host the U.S. radar is highly unpopular in the central European NATO member, where the public is wary of any foreign military presence, largely due to the Soviet invasion of 1968.

The BIS said the Russian spies had focused on non-government organizations, politicians and the media to drum up opposition to the missile defense base, but they may have a wider plan.

"The BIS believes the active Russian measures against the Czech Republic and its allies were possibly part of a wider and long-term Russian campaign whose aim is to impair the integrity of the EU and NATO, isolate the United States and renew control over the lost Soviet security perimeter in Europe," it said.

Increasingly strained relations between Russia and the West hit a new post-Cold War low after Russia invaded Georgia last month and recognized the independence of the breakaway Georgian regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

(Reporting by Jan Lopatka; Editing by Giles Elgood)

So much for Peace-loving Non-Aggressive Russia!

Serious reply needed or a simi serious one?

Simi serious reply first.....

We got Ruskies...in Georgia.......we got Ruskies in Czeck Republic......
we got Ruskies in England....we got Ruskies in Poland......we got
Ruskies in Lithunian.......

We got Ruskies here, there, everywhere.........give me some Ruskie remover.

So did someone say the cold war was over with?

Serious reply.

With our election going on.....you got to understand that this is the
time that they will get active. We are in a state of transition, that they
have known about for years. So every plan from the old KGB to the
new Russian secret services has gotten a dust off and read for these months.

The US will soon enough be out of this phase of transition. The real question is does Europe want to address them? Even if the US is
in transition?

....e.g. Europe says after the Georgian crisis.....lets us simply make them sit in the back row of the WTO and the G-8 meetings. Big deal. Cancell thier invite to NATO monthly meeting. Big deal.

Had Europe said.......hey peacekeepers are headed for Georgia and Georgia and the Ukriane are now admitted into NATO, then the
Russians would have listened and not be willing to play spy
games in the Czeck Republic.

Even if they have riots in the street of Prague.....over the deployment
of the interceptor systems there. The US will do it. That is our commitment to Europe and to keep it from Iranian nucs in the future.

The simple fact is that with Putin and Medvedev, we got a new Russia.
It is aggressive (Georgia). It is funded (oil). It is developing new military abilities (the Russian/Brazil joint stealth aircraft program).

All I say can now is.....do the Europeans still feel justified in the devaluation of the Dollar? Had the dollar not been devalued.....the United States would be in much better financial shape to aid Europe with a growing Russian threat. We might not be going thru these economic redos and restructurings.....and have our industry ready for a change over to military goods if need be. But at present, it is not.

The Russians know it. They know that we are stretched not just on
man power to Iraq and Afghanistan.....but also stretched resources wise to meet threats in other places. That 20% devaluation of the US $, has hurt our ability to aid Europe in facing a Russian threat.

So? Maybe the EU and Europeans have brought some of this Russian
interference on themselves. The far left in Europe degrade our administration and the gov't leaders of Europe say.....hey free speak....no slander there....and never press charges on them. What does that tell the Russians? That the NATO alliance is not as strong as should be. That European leaders are socialist in thier leansings.

That is the serious reply.

Welcome to the coming 2009-10 face off of national states with nuclear weapons. Lets hope we all live thru it. Because as sure as I am writing this and you are reading it...the next US Administration....being it McCain or Obama....is going to get tested
by the Russians/Iranians/Venesulains/Terrorist.

There we go Solitare.......the 'entire concept of Europe includes Russia'.
And 'we are all European'. How fashionable and so elitist. Sweet Jesus. The number of times Europe has sent armies into Russia and Russia has sent armies into Europe.....is how many?

LOL....you had the Romans, Moguls, the Tartars, the Germans WWI and WWII, the Red Army, the Csar Army, Napleon invasion of Russia...... just to mention a few times that Europe and Russia tried to include each other.

What difference if the interceptor were German/French build or American build? They do that same purpose yes? Just a different military contractor getting the work and the contract.

Do want our A-Bombs out of Germany, Solitare? Then the Russia Topol-Ms can target more on the US and UK. Thanks, Solitare you are quiet a guy. With friends like you, I know why our relationship is at times a
rocky one.

Well who knows....maybe the next Administration.....will get them out for you. And you can proceed with the inclusion of Russia into Europe.
Just a word of warning there......everytime Europe has gone into Russia.....Europe lost.