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Oct 29, 2008 6:55 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
You awake each day to the Muslim muezzin call to prayer from the neighborhood mosque - as millions of Europeans already do.

Liberals espouse “diversity is our strength” as Islamic enforcers cruise the cities in their quest to shutter, or harass any establishment that is contrary to Islamic “sharia” Law. Guns are confiscated and stiff penalties are dished out to citizens who defy the new anti-gun laws. Women are told to cover their hair and face when in public.

You are cautious about attending public events or being part of any large crowd as these are the favorite targets of suicide bombers in their quest to exhibit violence against non-Muslims who resist conversion or surrender. Dissent has been stifled since the Fairness Doctrine was reinstated.

A new Senator is sworn in, one of several Senators that have recently converted to the Muslim faith. Muslim populated districts are increasingly changing the political landscape by sending more electees to Congress.

A recent ruling from the Supreme Court states sharia law does not violate the “separation of church and state.” This ruling paves the way for Islamic controlled municipalities to govern every aspect of religious, political, and personal life of the local populace-- [amounting to a form of totalitarianism analogous to Communism].

As Mark Steyn [author of the New York Times bestseller “America Alone”] puts it, "The future belongs to the fecund and the confident. And the Islamists are both, while the West -- wedded to a multiculturalism that undercuts its own confidence, a welfare state that nudges it toward sloth and self-indulgence, and a childlessness that consigns it to oblivion -- is looking ever more like the ruins of a civilization."

If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying attention to what’s been happening in Europe and the UK. Europe is almost certainly a goner, as Mark Steyn laments in his book, but America can still survive, prosper, and defend its freedom only if it continues to believe in itself, in the sturdier virtues of self-reliance (not government), in the centrality of family, and in the conviction that our country really is the world's last best hope.

The Muslims have a twenty year goal to conquer the West. They have only a short 13 years remaining until victory, as their quest started in 2000.

Could this November complete the third, and final step in the transition to the United Socialist States of America, and bring the end of the United States of America as we know it? Copy and paste the below link to view video. France and Canada have learned that socialism is not the answer, and have recently elected more conservative style leaders. Will we remain a "Free Market" and "Capitalistic" entity, or disregard the lessons learned from the failed socialistic governments of Russia, and other European countries and adopt a left-wing socialist style of government?

Please watch...
http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
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Oct 29, 2008 7:08 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 727 Posts
With all the gloom and doom all around this planet its so refreshing to find someone with such a positive outlook on life.

Well doneroll eyes
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Oct 29, 2008 7:14 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
HealthyLiving: You awake each day to the Muslim muezzin call to prayer from the neighborhood mosque - as millions of Europeans already do.

Liberals espouse “diversity is our strength” as Islamic enforcers cruise the cities in their quest to shutter, or harass any establishment that is contrary to Islamic “sharia” Law. Guns are confiscated and stiff penalties are dished out to citizens who defy the new anti-gun laws. Women are told to cover their hair and face when in public.

You are cautious about attending public events or being part of any large crowd as these are the favorite targets of suicide bombers in their quest to exhibit violence against non-Muslims who resist conversion or surrender. Dissent has been stifled since the Fairness Doctrine was reinstated.

A new Senator is sworn in, one of several Senators that have recently converted to the Muslim faith. Muslim populated districts are increasingly changing the political landscape by sending more electees to Congress.

A recent ruling from the Supreme Court states sharia law does not violate the “separation of church and state.” This ruling paves the way for Islamic controlled municipalities to govern every aspect of religious, political, and personal life of the local populace-- [amounting to a form of totalitarianism analogous to Communism].

As Mark Steyn [author of the New York Times bestseller “America Alone”] puts it, "The future belongs to the fecund and the confident. And the Islamists are both, while the West -- wedded to a multiculturalism that undercuts its own confidence, a welfare state that nudges it toward sloth and self-indulgence, and a childlessness that consigns it to oblivion -- is looking ever more like the ruins of a civilization."

If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying attention to what’s been happening in Europe and the UK. Europe is almost certainly a goner, as Mark Steyn laments in his book, but America can still survive, prosper, and defend its freedom only if it continues to believe in itself, in the sturdier virtues of self-reliance (not government), in the centrality of family, and in the conviction that our country really is the world's last best hope.

The Muslims have a twenty year goal to conquer the West. They have only a short 13 years remaining until victory, as their quest started in 2000.

Could this November complete the third, and final step in the transition to the United Socialist States of America , and bring the end of the United States of America as we know it? Copy and paste the below link to view video . France and Canada have learned that socialism is not the answer, and have recently elected more conservative style leaders. Will we remain a "Free Market" and "Capitalistic" entity, or disregard the lessons learned from the failed socialistic governments of Russia, and other European countries and adopt a left-wing socialist style of government?

Please watch...





Do you still claim that you are neutral???rolling on the floor laughing



The Christian far right (those that include Sen Stevens) scare me a whole lot more than the Muslims!!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:15 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
Kevint: With all the gloom and doom all around this planet its so refreshing to find someone with such a positive outlook on life.

Well done



If Americans don't step up to the plate and DO something NOW, to put a stop to this plan, the land flowing with milk and honey will soon be turned to gloom and doom!

How easily they are convinced by such an elloquent speaker!!!
Need they forget that his speeches are written for him??? And that he has been in training for many years, for such a time as this?

The trap is set.

Question is...

Will you go for the bait????
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Oct 29, 2008 7:20 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden113 Threads 5 Polls 1,509 Posts
Thank you for that wake-up call.

I shall ponder what to do with myself as I pass through the malls infested with the jingle bell bullshit that is Burger King and McDonald’s, the soulless children’s playground that is Toys’R’Us, images of Britney Spears showing her va*ina to gain some popularity, Michael Jackson’s weird ways with kids, Bush bombing the shit out of anything he pleases to bomb, and all the other American bullshit which has been exported to our side of this world.

“You awake each day to the Muslim muezzin call to prayer from the neighborhood mosque - as millions of Europeans already do.”

Might be because… I don’t know… perhaps… MILLIONS OF EUROPEANS ARE MUSLIM!?

That’s just plain looney, seriously.

And to this day, I’m yet to meet any people who like to climb up their Minaret and announce to the world, force upon it, as Americans do.
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Oct 29, 2008 7:20 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
arabella
arabellaarabellaNear Farmington, Maine USA110 Threads 2 Polls 7,814 Posts
HealthyLiving: If Americans don't step up to the plate and DO something NOW, to put a stop to this plan, the land flowing with milk and honey will soon be turned to gloom and doom!

How easily they are convinced by such an elloquent speaker!!!
Need they forget that his speeches are written for him??? And that he has been in training for many years, for such a time as this?

The trap is set.

Question is...

Will you go for the bait????




You're using the wrong bait.laugh
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Oct 29, 2008 7:23 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
shipoker58: Do you still claim that you are neutral???
The Christian far right (those that include Sen Stevens) scare me a whole lot more than the Muslims!!



Oooooh Shippy...

You have hit upon an excellent topic here!!!

The Christian right!!!

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!


I have the book, "AMERICAN FASCISTS The Christian Right And The WAR ON AMERICA" by Chris Hedges, which exposes exactly your point.

Great book and all should read it!!thumbs up


Either way... We are SCREWED!!!!crying
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Oct 29, 2008 7:30 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden113 Threads 5 Polls 1,509 Posts
HealthyLiving: Either way... We are SCREWED!!!!


It's a singles site, isn't that what you came for?
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Oct 29, 2008 7:35 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 727 Posts
HealthyLiving: If Americans don't step up to the plate and DO something NOW, to put a stop to this plan, the land flowing with milk and honey will soon be turned to gloom and doom!

How easily they are convinced by such an elloquent speaker!!!
Need they forget that his speeches are written for him??? And that he has been in training for many years, for such a time as this?

The trap is set.

Question is...

Will you go for the bait????


With all due respect and no offence intended, I think you also see fairies at the bottom of your garden.

I have yet to read anything you have posted that has either genuine factual contents or is not totally contradicting.

Yes the outcome of the impending election is very important, and not just for America but the world as a whole, but to find so much rubbish about a contender just because he has a "Un-American" middle name and has spoken to those who hold different views to yours is quite frankly, Childish beyond belief.
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Oct 29, 2008 7:36 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
PietroPaoloV: Thank you for that wake-up call.

I shall ponder what to do with myself as I pass through the malls infested with the jingle bell bullshit that is Burger King and McDonald’s, the soulless children’s playground that is Toys’R’Us, images of Britney Spears showing her va*ina to gain some popularity, Michael Jackson’s weird ways with kids, Bush bombing the shit out of anything he pleases to bomb, and all the other American bullshit which has been exported to our side of this world.

“You awake each day to the Muslim muezzin call to prayer from the neighborhood mosque - as millions of Europeans already do.”

Might be because… I don’t know… perhaps… MILLIONS OF EUROPEANS ARE MUSLIM!?

That’s just plain looney, seriously.

And to this day, I’m yet to meet any people who like to climb up their Minaret and announce to the world, force upon it, as Americans do.



Do you really believe that ALL Americans support such things???

I am appalled at all you have stated in your first paragraph, just as you are... meaning... I agree with you. We have allowed corruption to run free. I do not shop at malls and do not even enter them. I have no idea who Britney Spears is, wouldn't know her if I saw her. I have heard the name, but she is of no interest to me. She is a diversion, along with so many others, to hold the interest of the people, to prevent them from meditating on the real issues at hand. I am alert to this scheme, therefore, I avoid it!

Please, we all know that Bush is an a$$, a liar, and a pawn. I ask again, please do not judge the American People, by the actions of this evil man!!! We hate him too! Meaning we hate who he represents and the organizations he is controlled by.

The average American, is loving, sincere, and compassionate. There are many good people in this country, and we suffer because of those who are controlling our government.

In American, most of us believe in the free rights of individualism, not forcing others to believe or do as we do, accepting all as they are.
How do you think we got in the state we are in now? We allowed the evil ones to do as they wanted, after all, it is their right. Did we not expect them to abuse their privlege and take over, to deny us our own rights? Well, it's what they have done!!

Oh dear Lord, please have mercy on US!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:39 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
PietroPaoloV: It's a singles site, isn't that what you came for?



rolling on the floor laughing I get your point, but to answer truthfully, "NO", I am not here to get screwed.

I live a celebate life, by choice.wine
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Oct 29, 2008 7:43 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA690 Threads 2 Polls 6,584 Posts
Kevint: With all due respect and no offence intended, I think you also see fairies at the bottom of your garden.

I have yet to read anything you have posted that has either genuine factual contents or is not totally contradicting.

Yes the outcome of the impending election is very important, and not just for America but the world as a whole, but to find so much rubbish about a contender just because he has a "Un-American" middle name and has spoken to those who hold different views to yours is quite frankly, Childish beyond belief.



Kevin, I do not believe you really know or understand my beliefs or why I post as I do.

I am against socialism in my country, at any cost, even death, I WILL FIGHT AGAINST IT!!!

As far as I can see, both candidates are socialist!

I am voting for neither one.

I am simply passing on some info that was passed on to me.

Everyone is entitled to form their own opinions.

Get Informed...
Stay Informed...
Inform Others!!!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:43 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 727 Posts
HealthyLiving: I have the book



I think your reading way to much, give yourself (and us) a break, get out more, take a walk down a leafy lane and enjoy the Autumn with all its diverse colours.

Maybe then you will see that the sun is still shinning and there is no huge black cloud about to descend and engulf the entire world.


But if you really like to read, can I recommend the series written by Beatrix Potter
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Oct 29, 2008 7:45 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden113 Threads 5 Polls 1,509 Posts
HealthyLiving: Do you really believe that ALL Americans support such things???

I am appalled at all you have stated in your first paragraph, just as you are... meaning... I agree with you. We have allowed corruption to run free. I do not shop at malls and do not even enter them. I have no idea who Britney Spears is, wouldn't know her if I saw her. I have heard the name, but she is of no interest to me. She is a diversion, along with so many others, to hold the interest of the people, to prevent them from meditating on the real issues at hand. I am alert to this scheme, therefore, I avoid it!

Please, we all know that Bush is an a$$, a liar, and a pawn. I ask again, please do not judge the American People, by the actions of this evil man!!! We hate him too! Meaning we hate who he represents and the organizations he is controlled by.

The average American, is loving, sincere, and compassionate. There are many good people in this country, and we suffer because of those who are controlling our government.

In American, most of us believe in the free rights of individualism, not forcing others to believe or do as we do, accepting all as they are.
How do you think we got in the state we are in now? We allowed the evil ones to do as they wanted, after all, it is their right. Did we not expect them to abuse their privlege and take over, to deny us our own rights? Well, it's what they have done!!

Oh dear Lord, please have mercy on US!


To be honest, I don’t think either one will gain much from a discussion here. You’ve already made up your mind, it’s evident, isn’t it? Discussing this, I’m sorry, but I sense it will enrich my life about as much as a two step dance with a revolving door.

Sorry, am not trying to be rude, but simply by posting that cold war days, eastern block like propaganda, in your first post tells me what I need to know.

I shouldn’t have commented.

Good luck on our quest to save the world from the terrible Muslims.

(do put a flower on David Koresh’s grave if you happen to pass it by)
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Oct 29, 2008 7:46 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria164 Threads 4 Polls 19,249 Posts
Kevint: I think your reading way to much, give yourself (and us) a break, get out more, take a walk down a leafy lane and enjoy the Autumn with all its diverse colours.

Maybe then you will see that the sun is still shinning and there is no huge black cloud about to descend and engulf the entire world.But if you really like to read, can I recommend the series written by Beatrix Potter




Spoken like a true Brit....

Who understands that the UK is not the 51st state...

Kevin, you deserve a nod...
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Oct 29, 2008 7:47 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria164 Threads 4 Polls 19,249 Posts
And there is a man, who is right where he should be...

Above me..

Hello darling...
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Oct 29, 2008 7:53 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden113 Threads 5 Polls 1,509 Posts
Sommerauer71: And there is a man, who is right where he should be...

Above me..

Hello darling...


I'm behind you on that comment!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:54 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
Well given the recent voter suppression by the Republicans and attempt to hide it by creating a bunch of smoke and mirrors regarding voter and registration fraud by the Democrats...I would say that Sharia Law should be the least of America's worries....your democracy has already been replaced by a Dictatorship.

A dictatorship is usually defined as an autocratic form of government in which the government is ruled by a dictator. It has two possible meanings:

* Roman dictator was a political office of the Roman Republic. Roman dictators were allocated absolute power during times of emergency. Their power was originally neither arbitrary nor unaccountable, being subject to law and requiring retrospective justification. There were no such dictatorships after the beginning of the 2nd century BCE, and later dictators such as Sulla and the Roman Emperors exercised power much more personally and arbitrarily.

* In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.


For some scholars, dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed, while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people. In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from) and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government). In this sense, dictatorship (government without people's consent) is a contrast to democracy (government whose power comes from people) and totalitarianism (government controls every aspect of people's life) corresponds to liberalism (government emphasizes individual right and liberty). Though the definitions of the terms differ, they are related in reality as most of the dictatorship states tend to show totalitarian characteristics. When governments' power does not come from the people, their power is not limited and tend to expand their scope of power to control every aspect of people's life.



roll eyes dunno uh oh
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Oct 29, 2008 7:55 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria164 Threads 4 Polls 19,249 Posts
PietroPaoloV: I'm behind you on that comment!



I suggest, you get back being sensible, levelled, well balanced and interesting...

We all could learn something...


wink
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Oct 29, 2008 7:55 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 727 Posts
HealthyLiving: Kevin, I do not believe you really know or understand my beliefs or why I post as I do.

I am against socialism in my country, at any cost, even death, I WILL FIGHT AGAINST IT!!!

As far as I can see, both candidates are socialist!

I am voting for neither one.

I am simply passing on some info that was passed on to me.

Everyone is entitled to form their own opinions.

Get Informed...
Stay Informed...
Inform Others!!!



What gives you the right to kill someone for their political belief, is that not fanaticism, the very thing you say your fighting against, Get real, your just here to get the attention your missing at home because everyone living near you stays as far away as possible.
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