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Oct 29, 2008 7:03 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
Sommerauer71: Can I laugh at that please?


I know I am... laugh so feel free...
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Oct 29, 2008 7:03 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Olsojente: I know I am... so feel free...



Thanks Oslo...

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Oct 29, 2008 7:09 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
CrosstownTraffic
CrosstownTrafficCrosstownTrafficMalaga, Andalusia Spain3 Threads 732 Posts
HealthyLiving: Actually, this is the first time I have posted concerning Muslims.
I have tended to shy away from going down that road, as I myself, do not fear them. As ship has pointed out, I would fear the "Christian Right" much more!!!

I posted this article to gain some feed back, and to get Obama supporters to examine a "senario", which is what my thread is. It is NOT a fact, only a kind of worse case senario.

Trying to encourage others to think for themselves, think OUTSIDE the box. With the dumbing down of America, many simply flow with the mainstream media, believing all that is said, because the NEWS said so!!!!

With that said, I post in order to provoke self-thinking, not because I believe with all of my heart, what I post.

I am just a little bit "different"... I have a right to be!



In one of your earlier threads you talked about handing out copies of "terrorstorm". With that in mind I am suprised you couldn't any better topics to try and prevoke thought from your fellow country-folk. Something like Mashal law, bit more scary, and possibly more likely to happen! cos as you say it is just a puppet goverment.
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Oct 29, 2008 7:11 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Olsojente: OMG, I think I live in a socialist country...


Does the sound of the morning call from the minaret distract you from the sight of babies being bayonetted in the street as you make your daily trip to the salt mines?

Just wondered! laugh


PS - France's Right wing government....wasn't that put in place as the result of an ELECTION. Imagine....the previous lefties allowed an ELECTION and lost it to allow the forces of "freedom" back in. How careless of them! Someday in a year or two they will have another ELECTION and what'ya know....the lefties will probably be back in power for a few more years of Godlessness before the next ELECTION brings back the Right. Strange thing democracy! rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 7:15 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Well I see fairies at the bottom of my garden but they don't talk like HL does so they must be a different tribe of fairies.

angel

They are more concerned with the heavy footsteps of man/woman crushing the flowers and such. Oh and why we have to use so many pesticides.
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Oct 29, 2008 7:15 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well given the recent voter suppression by the Republicans and attempt to hide it by creating a bunch of smoke and mirrors regarding voter and registration fraud by the Democrats...I would say that Sharia Law should be the least of America's worries....your democracy has already been replaced by a Dictatorship.

A dictatorship is usually defined as an autocratic form of government in which the government is ruled by a dictator. It has two possible meanings:

* Roman dictator was a political office of the Roman Republic. Roman dictators were allocated absolute power during times of emergency. Their power was originally neither arbitrary nor unaccountable, being subject to law and requiring retrospective justification. There were no such dictatorships after the beginning of the 2nd century BCE, and later dictators such as Sulla and the Roman Emperors exercised power much more personally and arbitrarily.

* In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.

For some scholars, dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed, while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people. In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from) and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government). In this sense, dictatorship (government without people's consent) is a contrast to democracy (government whose power comes from people) and totalitarianism (government controls every aspect of people's life) corresponds to liberalism (government emphasizes individual right and liberty). Though the definitions of the terms differ, they are related in reality as most of the dictatorship states tend to show totalitarian characteristics. When governments' power does not come from the people, their power is not limited and tend to expand their scope of power to control every aspect of people's life.



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Way to go Hugz!!!!

Great post, and I agree!!!thumbs up hug lips
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Oct 29, 2008 7:18 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Fallingman: Does the sound of the morning call from the minaret distract you from the sight of babies being bayonetted in the street as you make your daily trip to the salt mines?

Just wondered!


PS - France's Right wing government....wasn't that put in place as the result of an ELECTION. Imagine....the previous lefties allowed an ELECTION and lost it to allow the forces of "freedom" back in. How careless of them! Someday in a year or two they will have another ELECTION and what'ya know....the lefties will probably be back in power for a few more years of Godlessness before the next ELECTION brings back the Right. Strange thing democracy!
You all better start worrying about the Obvious!
Europe getting snowed in!
It just started snowing here.
Might start my Hibernation soon!professor







rolling on the floor laughing NOT!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:20 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Conrad73: You all better start worrying about the Obvious!
Europe getting snowed in!
It just started snowing here.
Might start my Hibernation soon!

NOT!


I suppose we had better say.......

Conrad, we would miss you........NOT! laugh
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Oct 29, 2008 7:21 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Kevint: "I am against socialism in my country, at any cost, even death, I WILL FIGHT AGAINST IT!!!" What gives you the right to kill someone for their political belief, is that not fanaticism, the very thing you say your fighting against, Get real, your just here to get the attention your missing at home because everyone living near you stays as far away as possible.




WOAH!!!!!!!!!!


I Did NOT say or imply that I want to kill anyone for their political belief!!!!!!

However, there are those who would like to kill me and others like me, for our political beliefs.

My statement implies SACRIFICE of SELF!!!

Meaning... I will gladly give MY life to die, if it would mean my fellow countrymen and women to no longer suffer fascism, but to live FREE!!!!!

I mean this with everything in me!!!!!teddybear
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Oct 29, 2008 7:21 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Fallingman: I suppose we had better say.......

Conrad, we would miss you........NOT!
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Oct 29, 2008 7:29 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Darkhorseman
DarkhorsemanDarkhorsemanGladstonia ... it's a strange, Queensland Australia40 Threads 3 Polls 1,304 Posts
HealthyLiving: Do you really believe that ALL Americans support such things???
....

Oh dear Lord, please have mercy on US!


Do you really believe that ALL Muslims support the killing of everyone else?

"Lord" ??? Which one? The one that stood on the Mount and preached Peace or the one the Christian Right have developed to run a new Crusade with.

I am a proud Celtic Pagan. I would be Buddist but they take too much crap from all the other religions. And they don't have half the fun running around naked nder a full Moon.
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Oct 29, 2008 7:51 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
CrosstownTraffic: In one of your earlier threads you talked about handing out copies of "terrorstorm". With that in mind I am suprised you couldn't any better topics to try and prevoke thought from your fellow country-folk. Something like Mashal law, bit more scary, and possibly more likely to happen! cos as you say it is just a puppet goverment.



There are many good and perhaps better topics out there which will provoke thought and Marshal Law is an excellent one!!!

Perhaps you should start a new thread on it?

I have posted it in the past, with few replies or much thought or input from others here.

I need to leave for work now, have a great day and I hope to read your new thread when I get home tonight!!!grin teddybear
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Oct 29, 2008 7:54 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Darkhorseman: Do you really believe that ALL Muslims support the killing of everyone else?

"Lord" ??? Which one? The one that stood on the Mount and preached Peace or the one the Christian Right have developed to run a new Crusade with.

I am a proud Celtic Pagan. I would be Buddist but they take too much crap from all the other religions. And they don't have half the fun running around naked nder a full Moon.



The answer to your implication has already been given, if you read all of my reply from the above mentioned post. No, I do not believe ALL Muslims support the killing of everyone else!!! Just as I do not believe that ALL Americans are like Bush!!!
grin


Can't be late for work, C'Ya!!!peace
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Oct 29, 2008 8:54 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK14 Threads 522 Posts
it is appalling the way muslims are being demonised by the demented and the lame. I would suggest the greatest threat to america are not muslim hordes rampaging across the god fearing suburbs. the greatest threat to america is ignorance and fear. and kevin costner
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Oct 29, 2008 8:57 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
dillinger: it is appalling the way muslims are being demonised by the demented and the lame. I would suggest the greatest threat to america are not muslim hordes rampaging across the god fearing suburbs. the greatest threat to america is ignorance and fear. and kevin costner



They already have their greatest fear...they're already in power...and coming up the ranks through the Christian Right!!!!!!!!!


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Oct 29, 2008 9:07 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
While you may be open minded enough to see this thread as nothing more then something to "get people to think outside the box" or "worse case scenario" ... others will take it as the gospel and use it to fuel their hatred, ignorance and prejudice. I think passing on this sort of publication on either side of the fence is irresponsible and inflammatory.

Yes, I do think that people need to be more educated, to question government to stand up for individual rights and freedoms... this is scare mongering and does nothing more then fuel the ignorance that is already encouraging people to give up individual freedoms out of fear and ignorance.
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Oct 29, 2008 9:10 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
jbibiza: While you may be open minded enough to see this thread as nothing more then something to "get people to think outside the box" or "worse case scenario" ... others will take it as the gospel and use it to fuel their hatred, ignorance and prejudice. I think passing on this sort of publication on either side of the fence is irresponsible and inflammatory.

Yes, I do think that people need to be more educated, to question government to stand up for individual rights and freedoms... this is scare mongering and does nothing more then fuel the ignorance that is already encouraging people to give up individual freedoms out of fear and ignorance.



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Oct 29, 2008 9:12 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
jbibiza: While you may be open minded enough to see this thread as nothing more then something to "get people to think outside the box" or "worse case scenario" ... others will take it as the gospel and use it to fuel their hatred, ignorance and prejudice. I think passing on this sort of publication on either side of the fence is irresponsible and inflammatory.

Yes, I do think that people need to be more educated, to question government to stand up for individual rights and freedoms... this is scare mongering and does nothing more then fuel the ignorance that is already encouraging people to give up individual freedoms out of fear and ignorance.


thumbs up Well said
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Oct 29, 2008 9:16 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
jbibiza: While you may be open minded enough to see this thread as nothing more then something to "get people to think outside the box" or "worse case scenario" ... others will take it as the gospel and use it to fuel their hatred, ignorance and prejudice. I think passing on this sort of publication on either side of the fence is irresponsible and inflammatory.

Yes, I do think that people need to be more educated, to question government to stand up for individual rights and freedoms... this is scare mongering and does nothing more then fuel the ignorance that is already encouraging people to give up individual freedoms out of fear and ignorance.




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Oct 29, 2008 9:21 AM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
HealthyLiving: You awake each day to the Muslim muezzin call to prayer from the neighborhood mosque - as millions of Europeans already do.

Liberals espouse “diversity is our strength” as Islamic enforcers cruise the cities in their quest to shutter, or harass any establishment that is contrary to Islamic “sharia” Law. Guns are confiscated and stiff penalties are dished out to citizens who defy the new anti-gun laws. Women are told to cover their hair and face when in public.

You are cautious about attending public events or being part of any large crowd as these are the favorite targets of suicide bombers in their quest to exhibit violence against non-Muslims who resist conversion or surrender. Dissent has been stifled since the Fairness Doctrine was reinstated.

A new Senator is sworn in, one of several Senators that have recently converted to the Muslim faith. Muslim populated districts are increasingly changing the political landscape by sending more electees to Congress.

A recent ruling from the Supreme Court states sharia law does not violate the “separation of church and state.” This ruling paves the way for Islamic controlled municipalities to govern every aspect of religious, political, and personal life of the local populace-- [amounting to a form of totalitarianism analogous to Communism].

As Mark Steyn [author of the New York Times bestseller “America Alone”] puts it, "The future belongs to the fecund and the confident. And the Islamists are both, while the West -- wedded to a multiculturalism that undercuts its own confidence, a welfare state that nudges it toward sloth and self-indulgence, and a childlessness that consigns it to oblivion -- is looking ever more like the ruins of a civilization."

If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying attention to what’s been happening in Europe and the UK. Europe is almost certainly a goner, as Mark Steyn laments in his book, but America can still survive, prosper, and defend its freedom only if it continues to believe in itself, in the sturdier virtues of self-reliance (not government), in the centrality of family, and in the conviction that our country really is the world's last best hope.

The Muslims have a twenty year goal to conquer the West. They have only a short 13 years remaining until victory, as their quest started in 2000.

Could this November complete the third, and final step in the transition to the United Socialist States of America , and bring the end of the United States of America as we know it? Copy and paste the below link to view video . France and Canada have learned that socialism is not the answer, and have recently elected more conservative style leaders. Will we remain a "Free Market" and "Capitalistic" entity, or disregard the lessons learned from the failed socialistic governments of Russia, and other European countries and adopt a left-wing socialist style of government?

Please watch...


Highly improbable in America. America is culturally becoming more and more secular.

However, using history as our guide, passionate Muslim conquests have happened before.
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