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Dec 22, 2008 8:43 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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HJFinAZ: Is he still with that woman?


We have been friends since I was 15 years old, a lot of different women came and went in that time. The one he got really serious with and would have asked to marry him, he met after I started traveling and she died of cancer before I got back.
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Dec 22, 2008 8:44 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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u2Kitty: I`ll take the job (We can discuss the salary in private!!)

And just stated some facts about you...

But still think that many men are way too scared to get hurt (perhaps again).

Saw this as a chance to appeal to "the silent crowd"

Kitty


Thanks! hug
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Dec 22, 2008 8:45 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
Evanese
EvaneseEvaneseLetha, Idaho USA1 Threads 101 Posts
HJFinAZ: How often do women ask men to go out on a date?


I think we like the option of being friends first.
I see no harm in it if she is very attracted to him.
Asking for a 'date' is maybe stating that you are
willing to go the extra mile. Starting as 'friends'
lets one give thought to some extra 'options'.
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Dec 22, 2008 8:53 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Evanese: I think we like the option of being friends first.
I see no harm in it if she is very attracted to him.
Asking for a 'date' is maybe stating that you are
willing to go the extra mile. Starting as 'friends'
lets one give thought to some extra 'options'.


I do not know about other guys, I only know about me. I have done the "life" game wrong in many ways, but I have learned many things.

Several years ago, a lady did ask me out. I accepted, we became lovers. I never took the time to become friends with her. SHe was attractive, successful, and wealthy, I was full of fear.

My bad...sigh
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Dec 22, 2008 8:55 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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HJFinAZ: Well, I have been divorced since 1991, 2 somewhat serious relationships. One was for 2 years and I had no business being there, she was 19 years younger than me ant "at that time" it was an ego trip for me. The other one lasted 4 years (the last one), I still have love "for her", but would not want her back. I played a role in the demise of that one also..

Today, with the situation with my mom, I feel it would be unfair to bring another woman into my life. Unfair to the woman and unfair to my mom. What the hell do I know??



laugh laugh I´m just realizing that I seem to pull a boyfriend every decade... the first was when I was 30, the second one was when I was 40... Well I turn 50 in a year and 2 months...maybe that´s when it will happen...laugh rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 22, 2008 8:58 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
jbibiza: I´m just realizing that I seem to pull a boyfriend every decade... the first was when I was 30, the second one was when I was 40... Well I turn 50 in a year and 2 months...maybe that´s when it will happen...


Well hang in there for a short 2 months then young lady..grin
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Dec 22, 2008 9:02 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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HJFinAZ: Well hang in there for a short 2 months then young lady..


That´s a YEAR and 2 months...sigh laugh
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Dec 22, 2008 9:04 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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Evanese: I know this is so cliche' of me,

It sounds like a fear of something...
To go to your Spirit will give you Truth responses.
Asking in the confusion of this Ego world will give
answers back of confusion.

just trying to help


It´s not cliche at all. I have always had a fear of commitment, but when I was younger it never stopped men asking me out. I think I´ve worked through that fear...but it´s been so long since I´ve been in a relationship... I´m not sure...dunno
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Dec 22, 2008 9:04 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
Evanese: I know this is so cliche' of me,

It sounds like a fear of something...
To go to your Spirit will give you Truth responses.
Asking in the confusion of this Ego world will give
answers back of confusion.

just trying to help


It´s not cliche at all. I have always had a fear of commitment, but when I was younger it never stopped men asking me out. I think I´ve worked through that fear...but it´s been so long since I´ve been in a relationship... I´m not sure...dunno
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Dec 22, 2008 9:05 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
spiceygamble
spiceygamblespiceygambleNola, Louisiana USA36 Threads 3 Polls 4,493 Posts
JB, forget the men... run away with me.
I love ya!
grin

teddybear
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Dec 22, 2008 9:07 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
spiceygamble: JB, forget the men... run away with me.
I love ya!



laugh I have the hottest women hit on me... if only I could swing that way!!! hug kiss
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Dec 22, 2008 9:09 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
spiceygamble
spiceygamblespiceygambleNola, Louisiana USA36 Threads 3 Polls 4,493 Posts
jbibiza: I have the hottest women hit on me... if only I could swing that way!!!


I'll wear a top hat & a mustache. How's that?
I can even bring you flowers and best of all... cookies(healthy ones!).

Be my girl, run away with mejoy

laugh
teddybear
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Dec 22, 2008 9:10 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
more,to love,ive heard,to each his own,whatever floats your boat,etc.
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Dec 22, 2008 9:54 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
spiceygamble: Well, I am a PT.


I luv you hunny. Don't mind the guys. At a certain point, they begin to switch roles with us. They stop being the aggressor and we find ourselves feeling pressure to step up. It's a thankless role... but there it is. Everyone gets tired of hearing "no" and they sort of wear out.


So if I scare them now...how much scarier am I going to be as the aggressor?laugh

Love you too...teddybear
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Dec 22, 2008 10:05 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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Ambrose2007: Hi, JB!

This is an extension of the thread you started a little while ago - and a variation on the theme of some of our private conversations.

Most of your respondents are of course very well-meaning, but seem to be unaware that you're not asking for compliments or cheerleading (or are you? ), but are actually presenting a serious dilemma and asking a serious question. They don't seem to hear that at least part of you is not happy with the situation as it stands (or you won't be authoring these threads).

I think it's clear that you're torn between two rather conflicting worlds: that of the social butterfly, and that of the serious relationship. Right now you've chosen to reside in the former, but you long for the latter (or some aspects of the latter). The fact is that your current lifestyle requires a considerable amount of time and energy; the fact is that a serious relationship requires a considerable amount of time and energy. So if you wished to have a serious relationship, you would need to reduce the amount of time and energy devoted to your "lighter" relationships.

It's not so much about "signals," I think, as it is about two very different lifestyles (though your social butterfly lifestyle does signal "not interested in serious relationship at this time"). It's not about your hypothetical significant other being jealous or unwilling to accept your legions of man friends. It's really about time and energy. If you were to require your significant other to develop relationships with all your friends and to more or less join you in mid-stride in your busy social calendar, you wouldn't have any time for each other. Something has to give - kind of a Newtonian conservation of energy thing. Perhaps later, when your S.O. is integrated into your life, you could resume a more partyish lifestyle, if that suit both of you, but at least for the initial bonding stages a lot of time/energy is needed.

So I think what you have to do is honestly appraise what you truly want.

Jeff


You are absolutely right... this is not a thread seeking compliments, just peoples observations about why none of you has pursued me damn it! At least none of the ones I might find desirable...laugh

I get what you´re saying Jeff, but I do spend about 4 nights a week at home...playing on CS, reading, watching DVD´s, cooking, knitting... so I do have time to devote to a relationship, but I also need a partner who is social and enjoys a couple of nights out, or getting together with friends.

I am a social person and desire that in a partner as well, I love having people over or organizing days out and my partner would need to feel the same.

Also... If I´m not out playing 2 or 3 nights a week... where and how will I ever meet anyone?

That´s one of the other difficulties of living on an Island... even if someone is just a couple hundred miles away, it´s a boat or plane trip, so meeting men on line is a bit more difficult then for most.
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Dec 22, 2008 10:20 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
jbibiza: You are absolutely right... this is not a thread seeking compliments, just peoples observations about why none of you has pursued me damn it! At least none of the ones I might find desirable...

I get what you´re saying Jeff, but I do spend about 4 nights a week at home...playing on CS, reading, watching DVD´s, cooking, knitting... so I do have time to devote to a relationship, but I also need a partner who is social and enjoys a couple of nights out, or getting together with friends.

I am a social person and desire that in a partner as well, I love having people over or organizing days out and my partner would need to feel the same.

Also... If I´m not out playing 2 or 3 nights a week... where and how will I ever meet anyone?

That´s one of the other difficulties of living on an Island... even if someone is just a couple hundred miles away, it´s a boat or plane trip, so meeting men on line is a bit more difficult then for most.


Right, JB, as someone who prefers more intimate get-togethers to parties and activities with large groups, I probably am viewing your situation from a somewhat biased vantage point. Of course there are guys who enjoy socializing (most far more than I!), so I doubt that would be a problem.

It's pretty obvious, though, that your present routine doesn't work well for meeting serious guys. Possibly part of the problem is where and how you play isn't ideal for meeting such men. I'm not sure what activities are available there, but perhaps some activities might be more amenable to meeting relationship-guys than, say, attending bars/restaurants... How about book-reading night at the local library? laugh I'm only half-kidding. In the past, I found the least likely place to find a suitable lady was at a bar/nightclub...but then that's doubtless due in part to my tastes in women.

I think being "smoke-free" and in good physical shape significantly enlarges the pool of possible suitors, but I suspect that's only a small percentage of the problem here.

Interesting thought-experiment - thought-experiment only! - if you had to choose between a busy/fulfilling social life and a serious relationship, which would you choose, Jacquie? An easy way to clearly view your true priorities, I'm thinking....

hug kiss
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Dec 22, 2008 10:39 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
jbibiza
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Ambrose2007: Right, JB, as someone who prefers more intimate get-togethers to parties and activities with large groups, I probably am viewing your situation from a somewhat biased vantage point. Of course there are guys who enjoy socializing (most far more than I!), so I doubt that would be a problem.

It's pretty obvious, though, that your present routine doesn't work well for meeting serious guys. Possibly part of the problem is where and how you play isn't ideal for meeting such men. I'm not sure what activities are available there, but perhaps some activities might be more amenable to meeting relationship-guys than, say, attending bars/restaurants... How about book-reading night at the local library? I'm only half-kidding. In the past, I found the least likely place to find a suitable lady was at a bar/nightclub...but then that's doubtless due in part to my tastes in women.

I think being "smoke-free" and in good physical shape significantly enlarges the pool of possible suitors, but I suspect that's only a small percentage of the problem here.

Interesting thought-experiment - thought-experiment only! - if you had to choose between a busy/fulfilling social life and a serious relationship, which would you choose, Jacquie? An easy way to clearly view your true priorities, I'm thinking....


I´ve already cut back on a lot of the social stuff, the big clubs and stuff I only attend 4 or 5 times a year... I like the gallery openings and my favorite social times are when I get together with friends... like yesterday, 7 of us got together for Sunday Roast at a little restaurant on the beach, we started at 3 and finished at 8, just good conversation, good food and wine and laughter. Then we went to a small venue where a friends band was playing, hung out for an hour to show our support and then home.

There is no way I could be in a relationship that it was just "us" and no outside interaction needed...but there has to be a happy medium. I would happily cut the "big nights" down (the ones where we keep going for 36 to 48 hours) to once or twice a year...but I love music and love supporting my friends that are DJ´s and musicians so would still like to go "out" at least once a week and then one more night or afternoon having friends over or visiting other friends.

But to answer your question in a very direct manner... if I got involved in a relationship and he wanted me to stop seeing friends and be 100% with him... I think I would say no.
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Dec 22, 2008 11:04 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
jbibiza:

I love men... men have always enjoyed my company... So what the hell is going on???? What is it about me that I make lots of male friends but I´m not getting asked out???

Is it my age? Does carrying an extra 20 pounds really make that big a difference?

I am asking honestly... please do not be afraid to respond honestly, I will not be insulted and hate you. I need to know what I´m doing wrong!!!!


My sweet friend, I wish I had an answer for you. You're a wonderful woman...funny, open, wise. All I can say is that the right one is worth waiting for, and that I sure hope he comes along for you. I understand your frustration, but I have no clue why some smart man here or in RL hasn't snapped you up yet.

hug
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Dec 22, 2008 11:08 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
dcj22
dcj22dcj22Somewhere, Tennessee USA102 Threads 3 Polls 11,581 Posts
HJFinAZ: How often do women ask men to go out on a date?



I haven't read through the thread, JB. I'm just getting started here, but I think Pat has a point.

How often do you meet someone that you might actually be interested in, and then invite them to be part of your group of friends, intending to get to know them a bit, check them out, before you decide anything about him.

What if, instead of all that, you ask a man on a DATE, a real honest to god, just the two of you, evening of getting to know one another?

When you invite people into your group, they become one of your friends and you both end up seeing one another in that fashion.

Am I making sense?
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Dec 22, 2008 11:13 AM CST PERIL... enter at your own risk!
dcj22
dcj22dcj22Somewhere, Tennessee USA102 Threads 3 Polls 11,581 Posts
Let me also say JB, that there is nothing wrong with you. You're fabulous!! And I mean that! I think there is some poor man that looks at you from afar and says, "She's too special. She'll never want to be more than friends with me."

Honestly JB, men can be intimidated by a woman who seems to have it all. Maybe you should just show him/them that you don't have it all - you don't have him!
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