I don't believe in an eye for an eye. I believe a life sentence without parole is a much more severe punishment and there is no risk of an innocent person dying because of a crime he/she did not commit.
Feb 29, 2012 2:36 AM CST Do you believe in the death penalty?
Yazz1972Somewhere, New South Wales Australia27 Posts
Yazz1972Somewhere, New South Wales Australia27 posts
hi trish
this is a dicey one to ask
the last man hung in England was innocent, how many in the states have been innocent?
in a lot of cases I do not think the death penalty is a punishment that fits the crime, especially in cases where the perpetrater is say a p*dophile or the victim has been held and abused over a period of time, in cases such as this I think prison is a more fitting punishment.
Conrad73: that's a dicey one! Sometimes I do,sometimes I don't!
Same
When you read of some of the horrendous crimes involving serial killers who torture and maim their victims then keep them alive for hours, days or whatever period only to kill them in the end, it's difficult to offer an unemotional opinion
When you read of some of the horrendous crimes involving serial killers who torture and maim their victims then keep them alive for hours, days or whatever period only to kill them in the end, it's difficult to offer an unemotional opinion
true. there are creatures who don't deserve to live and be called humans. the only problem is being absolutely 100% positive not to kill the wrong one.
bhirdie: true. there are creatures who don't deserve to live and be called humans. the only problem is being absolutely 100% positive not to kill the wrong one.
Hi bhirdie
Even in cases where there's absolutely no doubt, it's a moral issue for me I guess, taking away a human life.
Even in cases where there's absolutely no doubt, it's a moral issue for me I guess, taking away a human life.
I just don't know
well, yes, there is, of course. just, when ever i hear of some terrible thing someone does to a kid, you know, things so terrible you can't even comprehend how anybody could do to a child and take his life after all the torture, and i think what if it was my kid...
i agree with death penalty in certain situations.if someones proved guilty of torturing and killing a child i think he or she should get it.but i also think they should be made to suffer first.after what they did i think their death should be long and painful not a quick lethal injection were they dont suffer much .
halfavag: i agree with death penalty in certain situations.if someones proved guilty of torturing and killing a child i think he or she should get it.but i also think they should be made to suffer first.after what they did i think their death should be long and painful not a quick lethal injection were they dont suffer much .
If someone killed someone that I love,I don't think I'd have a problem with the death penalty at all,but when you hear about it in general I tend to think that they are gonna kill someone's son or daughter it bothers me and have second thoughts.
serene56: But what about others who have died in this way?
They had no choice either
true. after reading that mans post id say anyone that takes a life should pay with their own.my eldest is 27 next month and i still call her my child.over here a life sentence is nothing. they do a few years and their out to start their life over.our prisons are like 4 star hotels so even when their locked up their not suffering.
cruiser68: This piece of garbage got 18 years at our expence, will be out in 6, and you can guess who the first blokes going to be that he lays eyes on.
Well this is what I mean, I know we can't bear the thought of a young child going through this, but your daughter is your child, regardless of her age.
To me it makes no difference to this issue, if someone has had their life taken away with savagery, their age is irrelevant.
olivette12000: If someone killed someone that I love,I don't think I'd have a problem with the death penalty at all,but when you hear about it in general I tend to think that they are gonna kill someone's son or daughter it bothers me and have second thoughts.
but its because they already killed someones son or daughter that their going to get it.
It will never be possible to be 100% sure. DNA evidence can be planted and tampered with and confessions are frequently obtained under duress a la the recent events surrounding the sad story of the West Memphis 3. During the making of the documentary new evidence has emerged that suggests that more than 50% of executions carried out in the US have killed innocent people. Is that any better than a 'private' murder?
There is no justification for execution whether it be by an individual or the state and the function of government is not to exterminate its citizenry. The availabilty of capital punishment to sentencing officials is a measure of a society's evolution and enlightenment. Unfortunately, many societies have not moved on from the dark ages and revel in their punitive, med-evil, social stagnation.
Can there be any sense to the overwhelming bias in some Southern US states towards selecting the death penalty as a sentence? Are people convicted of crimes in these places really more violent, more deserving of death than those in other places? Of course not. It is simply that the administration of justice in these places has an overwhelming blood-lust to sate.
Two wrongs do not make anything right. The execution of a murderer brings no glory or sense of closure or balance to his or her victim. They are already dead. And the victim's family will have two deaths to contend with psychologically, instead of one. As a society we all share in the responsibilty for the fate of criminals as well as their victims.
As a side not: Certain nationals believe that they live in a countries which do not have the death penalty available as a potential sentence but most are wrong. In virtually all countries capital punishment can be imposed if one is found guilty of high treason though exactly how one goes about gettng one's self convicted of this is less clear. I am from one of those countries but I have seen the gallows myself. I think they are maintained as a bizarre type of visual deterent.
the last man hung in England was innocent, how many in the states have been innocent?
in a lot of cases I do not think the death penalty is a punishment that fits the crime, especially in cases where the perpetrater is say a p*dophile or the victim has been held and abused over a period of time, in cases such as this I think prison is a more fitting punishment.
Conrad73: that's a dicey one! Sometimes I do,sometimes I don't!
if the person really deserve it then yes.there's no point to spend public money to keep them untill they die peacefully.but sometimes innocent people could get death penalty by mistake.
Rummy1: if the person really deserve it then yes.there's no point to spend public money to keep them untill they die peacefully.but sometimes innocent people could get death penalty by mistake.
i mean,of course there should be a death sentence for this kind of people.
Rummy1: if the person really deserve it then yes.there's no point to spend public money to keep them untill they die peacefully.but sometimes innocent people could get death penalty by mistake.
trouble is,especially in the US,that it costs more to put a Convict to Death,with all the endless Appeals,than it would cost to keep them alive in Prison for the rest of their Life! Would even cost less if they were kept more frugal,instead with all the Amenities some of us on the Outside can only dream of!
Tough question for sure. I can understand why some are for it. However, I also believe there are other ways of dealing with it. For example murderers who commit acts against children should be turned over to the general prison population. They should never be incarcerated in protective custody. Believe me, we wont be supporting them for long if they are released into general prison population. Prison justice is a horrid thing to contemplate and I believe a greater deterent than death. There are far worse things than death.
The problem I have with the death sentence, is the hypocrisy of it. Its against the law to commit murder so, if you do, we will murder you??? I think there are much worse punishments within the prison system itself, let prison justice do its work.
venusenvy: Tough question for sure. I can understand why some are for it. However, I also believe there are other ways of dealing with it. For example murderers who commit acts against children should be turned over to the general prison population. They should never be incarcerated in protective custody. Believe me, we wont be supporting them for long if they are released into general prison population. Prison justice is a horrid thing to contemplate and I believe a greater deterent than death. There are far worse things than death.
The problem I have with the death sentence, is the hypocrisy of it. Its against the law to commit murder so, if you do, we will murder you??? I think there are much worse punishments within the prison system itself, let prison justice do its work.
can you hear the squawking by the UN Committee on Human Rights ?
Conrad73: trouble is,especially in the US,that it costs more to put a Convict to Death,with all the endless Appeals,than it would cost to keep them alive in Prison for the rest of their Life! Would even cost less if they were kept more frugal,instead with all the Amenities some of us on the Outside can only dream of!
thats really a problem.may be Venus is right about general prisons.
The death penalty statiscally is not a deterrent to crime but I say yes if preponderance of evidence overwhelming, not circumstantial & way beyond reasonable doubt. The cost of incarceration of a life sentence is a heavy burden on us taxpayers & strangely we do not have the facilities(USA) or space to keep all these criminals in jail thus they are being released back into society earlier according to crime committed.
I am also against criminals in jail having privileges-you should only have what is humane(food, drink & medical care)-end of story. JMO
venusenvy: Tough question for sure. I can understand why some are for it. However, I also believe there are other ways of dealing with it. For example murderers who commit acts against children should be turned over to the general prison population. They should never be incarcerated in protective custody. Believe me, we wont be supporting them for long if they are released into general prison population. Prison justice is a horrid thing to contemplate and I believe a greater deterent than death. There are far worse things than death.
The problem I have with the death sentence, is the hypocrisy of it. Its against the law to commit murder so, if you do, we will murder you??? I think there are much worse punishments within the prison system itself, let prison justice do its work.
Conrad73: can you hear the squawking by the UN Committee on Human Rights ?
Yabut Con once you knowingly commit murder, you have relenquished your humanity. You have no more rights too it. You are less than human (in my books) Obviously the death penalty is a joke that costs society endless dollars. so thats not the answer. Treat animals as the animals they are. Inmates have horrid ways of exacting thier own justice so really it would be justice served.
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