patmac: Don't have to complicate Max I proved your assertions were totally wrong.
Have fun Lying on the thread I am done.
Fed up talking to to a fool who insults women and lies and twists his way through thread after thread.
Bye Bye Max......
It is understandable that you avoid direct answers to specific questions. Any time you get kick from the conscience, try answering post 38 straight, as asked.
Who's the fool you're talking about? Are you a judge? Do I need to remind you something recent?
Anywyas, as always, I won't come down to your level. enjoy life and be good!
harry_bahrain: FYI, Thar is In India. Part of Rajastan State. Glaciers yes, but depenf on Punjab (Indian Punjab's rivers). Double of Iran and Saudi's reserves! Dude! What were u smoking All major river emanate frm India. The ppl r blinkered towards hating India. That will ensure their pitiful survival, looking at US and China 4 donations. Even their nuclear program is not indigenous, stolen from European labs. Breeding ground of terrorism. I wish Pakistani people will wake up and open their wide and see past India.. sigh
But yes. Mr. 10% are far worser traitors in India live comfortably..thanks to our version of 'democracy'
So you mean Thar coal reserves are not in Pakistan? (Yes or No) Pakistan does not have Thar desert (Yes of No)
All rivers in India and Pakistan, emanate from Himalayas, including your favorite ganga and jamna rivers. (yes or No?)
And Mr. 10% is now known as Mr. Cent per cent. You are right about that
Certainly we have, new scandals with corrupt politicians almost every day, so I think there is no such a thing as a good politician, most of them are corrupt. But in some countries there is also something left to people. Sweden has a good social security, but people complain anyway all the time and politician continue to take care of their own good aside from their job.
Apr 23, 2012 4:44 PM CST Do you have corrupt leaders in your country like the one we have president Zardari?
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 posts
No.Certainly not rampant,or systemic,although greeds greed,some will alway's succumb to it,probably be the odd bit of payola involed in the issuing of certain permits,contracts and the like,couldn't be too much though.
Apr 23, 2012 4:44 PM CST Do you have corrupt leaders in your country like the one we have president Zardari?
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 posts
No.Certainly not rampant,or systemic,although greeds greed,some will alway's succumb to it,probably be the odd bit of payola involed in the issuing of certain permits,contracts and the like,couldn't be too much though.
Jack68: Our country is going through the massive corruption,is there any other country facing this problem in the world
Many countries are in the same dilemma. In 1996 the American House Sub committee held hearings on 'security threats' faced by the US. Mr. George Susskind,(Sweetchild in German )of the Defense Intelligence Agency made a remark not paid attention to very much and basically 'ignored' by the press; "The single greatest fear that America faces today is that military forces no longer tolerate the continuing incompetence of its civilian leadership." Military commanders showing any hints of intolerance of its leaders are still quietly retired; aka, exiled. The clocks are ticking in many countries as this continues. It is inevitable that the military will step in at some point in several countries against the corrupt and criminally incompetent civilian gangsters that rule many countries. It is also something familiar from as far back as Julius Caesar when he said: "The difference between a republic and an empire is the loyalty of one's army; who in their right mind would pledge allegiance to a gang of crooks...election after election ad nauseum...
solitare: Many countries are in the same dilemma. In 1996 the American House Sub committee held hearings on 'security threats' faced by the US. Mr. George Susskind,(Sweetchild in German )of the Defense Intelligence Agency made a remark not paid attention to very much and basically 'ignored' by the press; "The single greatest fear that America faces today is that military forces no longer tolerate the continuing incompetence of its civilian leadership." Military commanders showing any hints of intolerance of its leaders are still quietly retired; aka, exiled. The clocks are ticking in many countries as this continues. It is inevitable that the military will step in at some point in several countries against the corrupt and criminally incompetent civilian gangsters that rule many countries. It is also something familiar from as far back as Julius Caesar when he said: "The difference between a republic and an empire is the loyalty of one's army; who in their right mind would pledge allegiance to a gang of crooks...election after election ad nauseum...
So the debate comes to the current form of Democracy that is practised world over, that allows such gangsters take over the administration of a country. Perhaps the reason militaries feel so uncomfortable is that they are usually far better disciplined, organized, and have a tighter grip on it's affairs as an instituion.
Jack68: Our country is going through the massive corruption,is there any other country facing this problem in the world
I am very sorry to see your frustration. I really hope that things get better there for you. Unfortunately I think there is a lot more going on..our also in this world where information is so much more readily available we are more aware of the problems from regular people and not just news and other media releases.
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
No... we dont have corrupt leaders in our country like president Zardari, but it stands to reason that corruption is a human error of judgement... and probably / maybe some of our pollies are... but I dont know of whom tho.... just roughly guessing here..
However, Your President Zardari clearly having been caught out for corruption in the past, very likely .... like the leopard who never changes their spots... may well be trying to feather his own nest in another path...
Sadly, the plight of countries who are soo very populated, and those citizens , some being poor, some being wealthy, are difficult to monitor...
and trying to fathom it all out is way too difficult for me..
Conrad73: That's what I am wondering about! They are Top-Top-Super Secret,yet everyone talks about them! And get away with it too!
An example would be the Bush clan, the Starbucks family, the Walton heirs (Walmart), the Rockefeller group which bought NJ public water (their subsidiary is called "American Water)...
or my favorites: The top management of Monsanto... they keep moving to and from advisory positions in the FDA back to the board of Monsanto and back again to the FDA. That is why you get GM food without it being identified as such, why farmers have to pay royalties for crops, why one of the first initiatives in Iraq was to eradicate their system of trading seeds and requiring the people to buy seeds from Monsanto. Do you think this stuff happens by coincidence?
primito: IN THE ISLAND OF "PUERTO RICO" THERE IS A LOT OF CORRUPTION STEALING FUNDS FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY THE CITIZENS STILL CONTINUE GIVING THE VOTE TO THEM
I think the people don't care. Nobody wants to pay taxes to pay welfare for Puerto Ricans, BUT Merck, for example, produces generic drugs in PR. They can do this extremely cheap there and I doubt they pay taxes because it is only a protectorate. So even if "the people" said no to Puerto Rico, nothing would change because there is much more money at stake for the pharma industry.
Jack68: Our country is going through the massive corruption,is there any other country facing this problem in the world
We have plenty of them in Ireland. Politicans from parties in power have been caught taking money to make certain decisions to favour billionaire friends. One of our recent Taoiseach was found guilty in an enquiry of lieing about were he received substantial sums of cash during his time as finance minister. The Taoiseach who took the debts of Irish Banks onto the shoulders of the Irish people played golf with the head of one of those banks two weeks before he took on their debts. That particular bank was later proved to be insolvent and cost the Irish people over 50 billion euros! There was another member of party in power who demanded a "contribution" to the party from a rich businessman. He then bought himself a farm with that money!
Thats is just a few things have happened in recent years! And not one of them has seen the inside of a court room! Yes my country is full of corrupt politicans!
I didn't know Sonia Gandhi was corrupt too.Haven't heard any corruptoin scandal directly related to her.
Why am I not surprised.
Power of Indian Pimpish Media, bro. They get handouts from her. And mind you, she is controlled from Italy. We have got the phenomenon of 'Paid News' happening in Indian.
And when some1 brilliant like Subramanian Swamy or the CAG or Gurumurthy or the Supreme Court exposes/ questions the corruption, the Black Widow throws some wastrel scrapegoat/ expendable in front and escapes scrutiny.
But all these roads lead to Rome...literally..
Anyway pls don't use 'Gandhi'. Its just intented for fooling public.
primito: IN THE ISLAND OF "PUERTO RICO" THERE IS A LOT OF CORRUPTION STEALING FUNDS FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY THE CITIZENS STILL CONTINUE GIVING THE VOTE TO THEM
FYI, EVMs can be 'FIXED' to give the results you want. Results can be Absolute Majority, Coalition of Criminals. Its so easy.
Best example if world's so-called largest 'demo'crazy, India.
harry_bahrain: I didn't know Sonia Gandhi was corrupt too. Haven't heard any corruptoin scandal directly related to her.
Why am I not surprised.
Power of Indian Pimpish Media, bro. They get handouts from her. And mind you, she is controlled from Italy. We have got the phenomenon of 'Paid News' happening in Indian.
And when some1 brilliant like Subramanian Swamy or the CAG or Gurumurthy or the Supreme Court exposes/ questions the corruption, the Black Widow throws some wastrel scrapegoat/ expendable in front and escapes scrutiny.
But all these roads lead to Rome...literally..
Anyway pls don't use 'Gandhi'. Its just intented for fooling public.
Media control happens. But the way you are saying, it is very difficult to catch as there is harldy any paper trail available and most of the bribes money resides in Switzerland, Cayman Islands, British Virgin Islands etc.
Another new invention in the media bribe just came in the newspapers. Hillary Clinton admitted they spent $50 million on the "development" of media in their ally country Pakistan. You would know what it means
You have a point, she should be know as Sonia Rahul, and not Sonia Gandhi....completely out of the family and country. But I contest the fact that she's not Indian NOW? I'm sure she is an Indian Citizen. Right?
rivame: Some countries have always had a lot of corruption....its just they were able to hide it better years ago.
Pakistan has become a leader of corruption in the world,govt leaders are speaking too much lies.Due to their corruption elecricity shut down has reached to 20 hours at some places its mean elecricity is available for four hours only.They are printing currency note every day and note machine is not stopping even for a minute,it causes too much inflation.While in an interview to US jounalist prime minister were asked that 20 pecent pakistani want to leave pakistan and prime minister gave an answer who is stopping them,its surprised the journalist
Jack68: Our country is going through the massive corruption,is there any other country facing this problem in the world
We do. Lately, there's been quite many cases of corruptions in the Labor Party, seems they are using the taxpayers money well to ensure fancy jobs in FN, retirement deals etc etc
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Have fun Lying on the thread I am done.
Fed up talking to to a fool who insults women and lies and twists his way through thread after thread.
Bye Bye Max......
It is understandable that you avoid direct answers to specific questions. Any time you get kick from the conscience, try answering post 38 straight, as asked.
Who's the fool you're talking about? Are you a judge? Do I need to remind you something recent?
Anywyas, as always, I won't come down to your level. enjoy life and be good!