Obama or Romney? That is the Question! (836)
duckrew: Of course Chevrolet isn't the only "American" car. It's just one of the three that's thought of as American. The three are Chevrolet, Dodge, and Ford. Chevrolet is moving operations to China, Dodge ownership is primarily Fiat, so Ford is the most American car. As far as Texas goes, if you will check up on it, instead of just voicing a wrong opinion, we're doing better than most of the US. Of course most of the rest of the country isn't like Texas, a lot wishes it was though. We're thinking of changing the state bird to the construction crane.
He apologized to Islam. He bowed to the Royal Suadi Prince. He restarted with Russia. He took the book from Chavez. He let China buy 1 trillion in US debt.
Will he apologise for getting Romney and Bain Capitol so wrong? As this blogger earlier posted that apology would not be coming. He just confirmed it earlier today,
Saying "the American people need to know about Romney's business background at Bain, since Romney is claiming to be the fix it candidate for the economy."
So what do we really have here?
Well by now Romney has been completely background checked by the DEMs.
Bain is the one area of his record that they feel a attack can be made.
If Obama apologizes for the error his people made, they lose this one attack area for ads. So they have to force it and keep it running till
November, a long 3 months away. Because if it dies, then it means the issue really trivial to the American people.
So let look at Bain some. A investment firm of 65b in annual investments in 2012. Back in 1999, likely only 1/2 that. So what we are talking about is investments into firms that made outsources decisions and decisions to close of only a percentage of that. Maybe 6b dollar worth. 1/5th is about the average of bad loans investment firms have.
Obama's policies are placing 4b of debt into the economy daily. In year's time, Romney decisions amounted to a 6b in failed loans. One is big tatters and the other is small order french fries.
Has Obama outsourced? You bet he has. In one of the most hypocritical aspect of DEM attack is that GM moved the Volt plant to China. The same GM that Obama invested 14B into. All those bailout we now know were actually Gov't loans (e.g. investments). Obama has been in the same bueinsss Romney was in the 1990s.
But moving that Volt plant. That is outsourcing. Not only that but he forced GM CEO Wagner out of office. Romney never did to any of the CEO that he might have had a different view with. He just denied their loan and let them go to another investment firm. So under the same rules of the game, that the DEM have drawn for Romney....Obama can be blamed for outsourcing.
By the way the recent numbers of Volt sales in the US? Just under 1800 for this year so far. 325 last year. A good gasoline powered auto design will do anywhere from 25,000 to 75,000 in sales per year. Obama knows how to pick a winner alright. If they did that Bain back in 1999, Bain would not be doing 65b this year in investments. Bain made some good investment decisions to get to 65b.
My prediction. This attack on Romney will backfire big time. Americans are not the financial novices that they were 10-15 years ago. They under the difference between investment and management. They understand the lines drawn between them. Just ask them who pays the car loan after they buy the new family sedan and who decides were to drive it? The banker or the owner?
So they get it.
Will he apologise for getting Romney and Bain Capitol so wrong? As this blogger earlier posted that apology would not be coming. He just confirmed it earlier today,
Saying "the American people need to know about Romney's business background at Bain, since Romney is claiming to be the fix it candidate for the economy."
So what do we really have here?
Well by now Romney has been completely background checked by the DEMs.
Bain is the one area of his record that they feel a attack can be made.
If Obama apologizes for the error his people made, they lose this one attack area for ads. So they have to force it and keep it running till
November, a long 3 months away. Because if it dies, then it means the issue really trivial to the American people.
So let look at Bain some. A investment firm of 65b in annual investments in 2012. Back in 1999, likely only 1/2 that. So what we are talking about is investments into firms that made outsources decisions and decisions to close of only a percentage of that. Maybe 6b dollar worth. 1/5th is about the average of bad loans investment firms have.
Obama's policies are placing 4b of debt into the economy daily. In year's time, Romney decisions amounted to a 6b in failed loans. One is big tatters and the other is small order french fries.
Has Obama outsourced? You bet he has. In one of the most hypocritical aspect of DEM attack is that GM moved the Volt plant to China. The same GM that Obama invested 14B into. All those bailout we now know were actually Gov't loans (e.g. investments). Obama has been in the same bueinsss Romney was in the 1990s.
But moving that Volt plant. That is outsourcing. Not only that but he forced GM CEO Wagner out of office. Romney never did to any of the CEO that he might have had a different view with. He just denied their loan and let them go to another investment firm. So under the same rules of the game, that the DEM have drawn for Romney....Obama can be blamed for outsourcing.
By the way the recent numbers of Volt sales in the US? Just under 1800 for this year so far. 325 last year. A good gasoline powered auto design will do anywhere from 25,000 to 75,000 in sales per year. Obama knows how to pick a winner alright. If they did that Bain back in 1999, Bain would not be doing 65b this year in investments. Bain made some good investment decisions to get to 65b.
My prediction. This attack on Romney will backfire big time. Americans are not the financial novices that they were 10-15 years ago. They under the difference between investment and management. They understand the lines drawn between them. Just ask them who pays the car loan after they buy the new family sedan and who decides were to drive it? The banker or the owner?
So they get it.
Hot_Single_Dude: Actually and as a matter of fact mister TT... the situation in all Republican runned states like Florida and Texas and so on are WAY worse than Democratic runned states... but still your guys are WAY better lying and denying and cheating and denying people their human right of voting and laughing out loud while they lie big time and destroyng jobs and peoples lives, and then counting on people will find out a bout these freaking lies but after the elction is over and because they ko that too many americans actually do not care a bout the truth and seeing this whole election as a game or some thing!
Constitution? Republicans do not give a damn a bout the constitution any ay and only accepting parts of it which pleases their personal Greed, and can be "translated" in a way which accepts discrimination and denying of human rights and civil rights of the modern world of to day!
Each time GOP mentioning the constitution... a big stincky Fart should be the Answer
Constitution? Republicans do not give a damn a bout the constitution any ay and only accepting parts of it which pleases their personal Greed, and can be "translated" in a way which accepts discrimination and denying of human rights and civil rights of the modern world of to day!
Each time GOP mentioning the constitution... a big stincky Fart should be the Answer
Can you tell us which DEM states that is? Because it is not California or New York that are going bankrupt.
As for the Constitution. Well GWB got a Congressional approval for the invasion of Hussien's Iraq. President Obama went in shooting from the hip on Qdaffi's Libya without a Congressional approval. Most Americans do like a word in where they send their sons and daughter to fight....
Hot_Single_Dude: And here one of THE most important guys for the Dang GOP EVER, and GOP,s invention in order of keep milking America for years and hiding stolen money of americans in crook states of the world!... OBL
That's your opinion however, we were talking about facts and, factcheck which is an independent Democratic owned Anherst foundation website that states what you said about Romney was wrong.
That you are continually wrong when you pull supposed facts out is telling.
Hot_Single_Dude: I bet the dang so called judge is a dang Bushney supporter from the dang planet of OZ,and the same kind of judge who Shuved a dang loser called GWB upon America and the rest of the world for a freaking eight years
You bet based on what, no facts at all or your usual method of just guessing and crossing your fingers?
Hot_Single_Dude: http://forcechange.com/24856/tell-republican-governors-not-to-deny-their-states-economic-recovery-to-benefit-romney/
The hate just oozes from you dude. Incredible, you post blogs rather than factual information in order to play the shill to the socialists. No wonder you hate freedom so much.
The Senate Report on Maj. Hassan and the Forth Hood Shooting is being released on TV here.
Major Hassan had 60 Email accounts. Several months prior to the Fort Hood shooting he had at least two email from alAwalki. And had sent many to him. In one Major Hassan says he was tired of "not fighting with his brothers" against Americans.
A USArmy ELINT team in San Diego compromised him during this time. But because he was out their jurisdiction, they could not work his case. He was still at Walter Reed at the time. They reported it to the Washington DC for FBI and USARMY investigation teams to pick up that he was having contact with the terrorist leader from Yemen.
"For strategic reasons" these two groups did not could not or would not conduct any more investigations into Major Hassan. Then Major Hassan was transferred to Fort Hood and the shooting occurs.
But what "strategic reasons" would the FBI and the USARMY investigators have for not looking into compromising communications with a deadly alQeada leader? Here the Senate report ends. And the Administration is not telling.
"Strategic" implies that there was some larger purpose or greater issue that the Administration had for keeping the FBI or USARMY investigators from conducting a complete investigation.
Was it....appeasement of Islam? That the Administration was afraid that if they conducted a investigation of a Muslim Officer and soldier and it leaked, then its image around the world we be tarnished to Islam?
Was it....that the Administration was using Major Hassan to contact alAwalki in back channels communications? That his radicalization to Islam was only front to get close to alAwalki? If that is the case....it was a horrible decision. 13 Americans are dead because the Administration choose Hassan to back channel to alAwalki. Not only that later alAwalki commends Hassan for his murders.
Was it....Major Hassan was so radicalized, that the Administration choose to place him at Fort Hood....away from the Washington DC area
and a proximity to the countries leaders. This after learning of his contact with alAwalki. But then falls to warn the local Fort Hood base security that they have sent a radicalized Muslim within the camp?
So the transperent administration of President Obama has again....shown us....that duck and dodge is the favorite dodgeball game in Washington.
13 American are dead...one a pregnant woman and her unborn child. 19 others are wounded many with PTSD and life altering injuries....and the best reason we get from this Administration had a strategic reasons......not to investigate Major Hassan for his contacts with the worlds 3rd leading Islamic terrorists.
Major Hassan had 60 Email accounts. Several months prior to the Fort Hood shooting he had at least two email from alAwalki. And had sent many to him. In one Major Hassan says he was tired of "not fighting with his brothers" against Americans.
A USArmy ELINT team in San Diego compromised him during this time. But because he was out their jurisdiction, they could not work his case. He was still at Walter Reed at the time. They reported it to the Washington DC for FBI and USARMY investigation teams to pick up that he was having contact with the terrorist leader from Yemen.
"For strategic reasons" these two groups did not could not or would not conduct any more investigations into Major Hassan. Then Major Hassan was transferred to Fort Hood and the shooting occurs.
But what "strategic reasons" would the FBI and the USARMY investigators have for not looking into compromising communications with a deadly alQeada leader? Here the Senate report ends. And the Administration is not telling.
"Strategic" implies that there was some larger purpose or greater issue that the Administration had for keeping the FBI or USARMY investigators from conducting a complete investigation.
Was it....appeasement of Islam? That the Administration was afraid that if they conducted a investigation of a Muslim Officer and soldier and it leaked, then its image around the world we be tarnished to Islam?
Was it....that the Administration was using Major Hassan to contact alAwalki in back channels communications? That his radicalization to Islam was only front to get close to alAwalki? If that is the case....it was a horrible decision. 13 Americans are dead because the Administration choose Hassan to back channel to alAwalki. Not only that later alAwalki commends Hassan for his murders.
Was it....Major Hassan was so radicalized, that the Administration choose to place him at Fort Hood....away from the Washington DC area
and a proximity to the countries leaders. This after learning of his contact with alAwalki. But then falls to warn the local Fort Hood base security that they have sent a radicalized Muslim within the camp?
So the transperent administration of President Obama has again....shown us....that duck and dodge is the favorite dodgeball game in Washington.
13 American are dead...one a pregnant woman and her unborn child. 19 others are wounded many with PTSD and life altering injuries....and the best reason we get from this Administration had a strategic reasons......not to investigate Major Hassan for his contacts with the worlds 3rd leading Islamic terrorists.
ttom500: The Senate Report on Maj. Hassan and the Forth Hood Shooting is being released on TV here.
Another freak with extreme left ideals and agenda. This is what can happen when irrational hate of the US occurs and just festers.
It is a election year. The DEMs thought they could pull the America card out and let the flag fly.
Harry Reid is all angered that the US Olympic uniforms were made in China. Burn them he says. It does not matter that Ralph Lauren....is a US firm.
But Harry forgot that he pushed a sweet heart land deal thru congress for a solar energy project near his home town in Nevada. Now you would think that the Solydry solar cell maker could make the solar cells for the project. It only got $500m US tax payer's money.
No the solar cells for this very large solar project came from....China.
Seem Harry has a long term Chinese industrialist as a long term friend.
Let me introduce you to Wang Yusuo. Wang Yosuo sold the Chinese solar cells to the Nevada project. But it gets better. Know who is a lobbyist in Washington on Solar energy? Roy Reid, Harry Reid's son.
So for 300 American Olympic uniforms the DEM make a global issue and fly the flag. At say $200 per uniform...you are talking about a $60,000 contract. While in Harry's back yard.....you have Chinese solar cells worth millions sold by a personal Chinese friend and lobbied for by his son.
So get the picture? Flying the flag gets votes. Saving Soldryn would have saved American jobs.
Harry Reid is all angered that the US Olympic uniforms were made in China. Burn them he says. It does not matter that Ralph Lauren....is a US firm.
But Harry forgot that he pushed a sweet heart land deal thru congress for a solar energy project near his home town in Nevada. Now you would think that the Solydry solar cell maker could make the solar cells for the project. It only got $500m US tax payer's money.
No the solar cells for this very large solar project came from....China.
Seem Harry has a long term Chinese industrialist as a long term friend.
Let me introduce you to Wang Yusuo. Wang Yosuo sold the Chinese solar cells to the Nevada project. But it gets better. Know who is a lobbyist in Washington on Solar energy? Roy Reid, Harry Reid's son.
So for 300 American Olympic uniforms the DEM make a global issue and fly the flag. At say $200 per uniform...you are talking about a $60,000 contract. While in Harry's back yard.....you have Chinese solar cells worth millions sold by a personal Chinese friend and lobbied for by his son.
So get the picture? Flying the flag gets votes. Saving Soldryn would have saved American jobs.
ttom500: Can you tell us which DEM states that is? Because it is not California or New York that are going bankrupt.
As for the Constitution. Well GWB got a Congressional approval for the invasion of Hussien's Iraq. President Obama went in shooting from the hip on Qdaffi's Libya without a Congressional approval. Most Americans do like a word in where they send their sons and daughter to fight....
As for the Constitution. Well GWB got a Congressional approval for the invasion of Hussien's Iraq. President Obama went in shooting from the hip on Qdaffi's Libya without a Congressional approval. Most Americans do like a word in where they send their sons and daughter to fight....
I mean... Yeah... sons and daughters Sure... but Predators and misslies and stuff better being sent upon enemies of America when ever dangers against our security
Dang Alqueda is demolisehd, and scared the freak out... as never before since your Reagan,s Osama Bin Laden is OFF the map permanently mister TT, and Reagan and the rest of the dang GOP "master plan" in order to Steal America,s wealth for ever and hiding it in foreign banks in the shaddow of FEAR have been terminated
Albertaghost: You bet based on what, no facts at all or your usual method of just guessing and crossing your fingers?
Because I got my resopurces and you do not know a Thing Alberta Albertaghost: The hate just oozes from you dude. Incredible, you post blogs rather than factual information in order to play the shill to the socialists. No wonder you hate freedom so much.
Hot_Single_Dude: Because I got my resopurces and you do not know a Thing Alberta
Yes your 'resopurces.' A never ending stream of anti US blogs and self described left wing sites.
I certainly know enough not to use rumor and rant as the centerpiece of every post I write but rather unlike yourself, search for unbiased material.
Albertaghost: Another freak with extreme left ideals and agenda. This is what can happen when irrational hate of the US occurs and just festers.
Left ideas? 
America Got to Bain THAT dang sad and mad remianing of the Bushney,s Evil Empire OUT:
Brain is no muscle but a body part to THINK with! Study this and Think will ya,ll? Good for America? Freaking GREAT for one procent of americans for sure, but what a bout the other 99 procent?
Is it that hard to understand why the mighty popoganda machine of american Taliban is so freaking Scared of OWS?
Is it that hard to understand why the mighty popoganda machine of american Taliban is so freaking Scared of OWS?
Obama apologized to China etc but he refuses to apologize to Romney.No wonder neither side can work anything out between them.
Of course all major donors of GOP are crooks and liers and absolutely criminal and acting against the very benefits of the United States and Stealing America,s Wealth as NEVER before!
Another moraly ultra holy real "Christian" dude for ever supporter of the dang GOP? This Freak is making his dang money on Gambling and Mafia kind of business and shi*... and there are a lot others like him all behind the dang secteraian movement of GOP! Think some America Will you??? What types are supporting the dang GOP any way?
Another moraly ultra holy real "Christian" dude for ever supporter of the dang GOP? This Freak is making his dang money on Gambling and Mafia kind of business and shi*... and there are a lot others like him all behind the dang secteraian movement of GOP! Think some America Will you??? What types are supporting the dang GOP any way?
Ccincy: Obama apologized to China etc but he refuses to apologize to Romney.No wonder neither side can work anything out between them.
Hi Ciciny! Well I have suggested Dems gathering in a tousand at least with bare asse* , taking a group picture of it, making a huge print of and sending it to Romney as a propper apology! See? WE are not that bad any way
Hot_Single_Dude: Hi Ciciny! Well I have suggested Dems gathering in a tousand at least with bare asse* , taking a group picture of it, making a huge print of and sending it to Romney as a propper apology! See? WE are not that bad any way
Oh lord help us all.
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course all major donors of GOP are crooks and liers and absolutely criminal and acting against the very benefits of the United States and Stealing America,s Wealth as NEVER before!
Another moraly ultra holy real "Christian" dude for ever supporter of the dang GOP? This Freak is making his dang money on Gambling and Mafia kind of business and shi*... and there are a lot others like him all behind the dang secteraian movement of GOP! Think some America Will you??? What types are supporting the dang GOP any way?
Another moraly ultra holy real "Christian" dude for ever supporter of the dang GOP? This Freak is making his dang money on Gambling and Mafia kind of business and shi*... and there are a lot others like him all behind the dang secteraian movement of GOP! Think some America Will you??? What types are supporting the dang GOP any way?
The guy is a saint compared to Obama's contributors.
""
JP Morgan Employees Join Goldman Sachs Among Top Obama Donors
President Barack Obama’s largest campaign donors last month included employees of Wells Fargo & Co., (WFC) JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission records.
Their support indicates that Wall Street, which gave Obama $16 million for his successful 2008 White House run, is opening its checkbook again for the president. The contributions helped Obama raise $21 million in February, including $6.5 million transferred from a joint fundraising committee with the Democratic National Committee. ""
""Top Obama Campaign Contributor Accused Of $650K Fraud""
Hot_Single_Dude: America Got to Bain THAT dang sad and mad remianing of the Bushney,s Evil Empire OUT:
Typical. You using another uniformed source. I posted an impartial site yesterday that clarified your error. If you wish to base your rantings on something true, use it or, if you wish to continually be in error, keep using your blogs and such.
Hot_Single_Dude: Left ideas?
As usual, you just rant on without reading anybody elses post. I didn't say 'ideas.'
Hot_Single_Dude: Brain is no muscle but a body part to THINK with! Study this and Think will ya,ll? Good for America? Freaking GREAT for one procent of americans for sure, but what a bout the other 99 procent?
Is it that hard to understand why the mighty popoganda machine of american Taliban is so freaking Scared of OWS?
Is it that hard to understand why the mighty popoganda machine of american Taliban is so freaking Scared of OWS?
Dude, as usual you have no shame in your quest for disinformation. The head of the site you provide is Obama's former policy director Neera Tanden.
Golly, have you no shame?
why so much argue? just wait till november ..
They have a plan that is being considered in California...in the same country were were Santa Barbara declared bankrupcy.....that if you have mortgage difficulties.....the CA city will use emmiett domaine to first take your property.
Then will find you lower interest mortgage.
Then will let you live on the property paying the city the monthly rate
on the cities owned mortgage.
Get it?
In other words, the title of the property is now in the local city hands. Yet you still are paying the mortgage on it.
And the attroneys....that made all this happen for you.....get paid
$4500 of tax payer money for arranging the loans and finding the homeowners for the city to use emmiett domaine on.
That is your local DEMs at work for you.
This reminds me so much of what Stalin did to the Russian serfs.
He confiscated their fields and farms, then forces them to be part of the local farm combine......all working for the state......
Sure the terms are different, but the same effect.......
Then will find you lower interest mortgage.
Then will let you live on the property paying the city the monthly rate
on the cities owned mortgage.
Get it?
In other words, the title of the property is now in the local city hands. Yet you still are paying the mortgage on it.
And the attroneys....that made all this happen for you.....get paid
$4500 of tax payer money for arranging the loans and finding the homeowners for the city to use emmiett domaine on.
That is your local DEMs at work for you.
This reminds me so much of what Stalin did to the Russian serfs.
He confiscated their fields and farms, then forces them to be part of the local farm combine......all working for the state......
Sure the terms are different, but the same effect.......
The DEM are threatening to take the country over the financial cliff.
As Little Richard likes to say...."Good Golly Molly"
I really thought elected officials were suppose to find ways to keep from falling off the financial cliff. But these are such strange times we live in.
If they don't get their tax increases on the 1% and those making over $250,000....the DEMs are willing to let "all" the Bush tax cuts and spending provisions expire.....pushing the car to the edge of the cliff and hanging a tire off of it.
How can a few narrow minded and ego centered elected officials with a leftist ideology have the power to ruin this countries financial ratings? Costing the 310m American billions in increased interest rates!
But yep they have that kind of power. Sadly the American people over the years have placed fiscally irresponsible DEMs in office of power.
Now that vote cast a few years ago, can come to cost them billions by a ideology driven DEM that are out to punish the wealthy.
Sen Patty Murray (D of Washington) and head of the super debt committee appointed by President Obama during the deficit crisis of recent. Says this...."If we cannot get a good deal, a balanced deal,
that calls for the wealthy to pay their fair share then I will absolutely carry on this debate until 2013, rather than lock up a long term this year that throws the middle class families under the bus."
Respectfully, Senator Murray is clueless.
If they don't come to a deal before the Bush tax credits and spending provisions end in DEC....some $600b in government are set to expire....and another wheel of the car is pushed over the financial cliff. Push the car down the cliff and what did you do to the middle class families? No, they are not under the bus, but they are riding run away car of debt with high interest rates to the bottom of the cliff. In the end it is the diffference between a collision and run over for the middle class.
Instead of trying to build confidence in a fiscally solid America, DEM continue to play fiscal mismanaged crisis politics. Financial fear mongering for votes. So if they cannot buy your vote with a hand out.
They will fear your vote by pushing the car off the cliff. All to strike at the wealthy.
Well Patty ...let us consider. That the wealthy....are paying a whole lot more in taxes than the estimated 45m that don't pay. You know the 45m that are getting all these free government benefits and food stamps.
The wealthy pay a whole lot more than GE that has 1/2 of it employment in off shore employment....that is about 150,000 jobs in 43 different countries.....this is the company that President Obama heralds and made its CEO head of the Jobs commission. But let us not talk a out outsourcing, Romney is the king of outsources, from what DEM commmerical have. Only that was back in 1999 and prior. GE is today outsourcing and tax evasion.
So what is fair, Patty? Getting another dollar from the wealthy? For some some far left program. OR getting GE and the 45m that don't pay any tax at all to contribute to the tax base of the country?
Seems to me that it is the later. But these are strange times when political ideology means more than the welfare of the country.
news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/democrats-threaten-push-amercia-over-fiscal-cliff-absence-193143016.html?_esi=1
As Little Richard likes to say...."Good Golly Molly"
I really thought elected officials were suppose to find ways to keep from falling off the financial cliff. But these are such strange times we live in.
If they don't get their tax increases on the 1% and those making over $250,000....the DEMs are willing to let "all" the Bush tax cuts and spending provisions expire.....pushing the car to the edge of the cliff and hanging a tire off of it.
How can a few narrow minded and ego centered elected officials with a leftist ideology have the power to ruin this countries financial ratings? Costing the 310m American billions in increased interest rates!
But yep they have that kind of power. Sadly the American people over the years have placed fiscally irresponsible DEMs in office of power.
Now that vote cast a few years ago, can come to cost them billions by a ideology driven DEM that are out to punish the wealthy.
Sen Patty Murray (D of Washington) and head of the super debt committee appointed by President Obama during the deficit crisis of recent. Says this...."If we cannot get a good deal, a balanced deal,
that calls for the wealthy to pay their fair share then I will absolutely carry on this debate until 2013, rather than lock up a long term this year that throws the middle class families under the bus."
Respectfully, Senator Murray is clueless.
If they don't come to a deal before the Bush tax credits and spending provisions end in DEC....some $600b in government are set to expire....and another wheel of the car is pushed over the financial cliff. Push the car down the cliff and what did you do to the middle class families? No, they are not under the bus, but they are riding run away car of debt with high interest rates to the bottom of the cliff. In the end it is the diffference between a collision and run over for the middle class.
Instead of trying to build confidence in a fiscally solid America, DEM continue to play fiscal mismanaged crisis politics. Financial fear mongering for votes. So if they cannot buy your vote with a hand out.
They will fear your vote by pushing the car off the cliff. All to strike at the wealthy.
Well Patty ...let us consider. That the wealthy....are paying a whole lot more in taxes than the estimated 45m that don't pay. You know the 45m that are getting all these free government benefits and food stamps.
The wealthy pay a whole lot more than GE that has 1/2 of it employment in off shore employment....that is about 150,000 jobs in 43 different countries.....this is the company that President Obama heralds and made its CEO head of the Jobs commission. But let us not talk a out outsourcing, Romney is the king of outsources, from what DEM commmerical have. Only that was back in 1999 and prior. GE is today outsourcing and tax evasion.
So what is fair, Patty? Getting another dollar from the wealthy? For some some far left program. OR getting GE and the 45m that don't pay any tax at all to contribute to the tax base of the country?
Seems to me that it is the later. But these are strange times when political ideology means more than the welfare of the country.
news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/democrats-threaten-push-amercia-over-fiscal-cliff-absence-193143016.html?_esi=1
If the Congressional DEM push the country off the financial cliff....by not resolving the TAX cuts and spending.....it will cost the country 2m jobs come Jan. 2, 2013.
This coming from a report by the Aerospace Industry Association. Likely most of those losing employment will be the middle class, as the DEM desire to punish the 1% and those making over $250,000.
The DEM have control of the Senate.....that has not passed a budget for 3 years. Have again placing the country at the fiscal cliff. Again another "crisis".
As Senator D Patty Murray has told. She is very determine to debate the issue in 2013, costing the Obama jobs gain of 4.4m....nearly 2.0m
of them. Or a 1/2 the gains made. All to tax the wealthy 1%ers and the $250,000+ers.
Studies show that even if the DEMs get the tax on the 1%ers and the
250,000+ers is doesnot cover the $4b daily deficit that President Obama is running. It is mainly a capitols gains tax increase of only 5%. Netting the Federal government only $350b per year increase. Or about $1b per day. Obama is still running $3b per day short of a balanced FED. budget.
Were that daily $3b is going to come from Senator Patty Murray and her super deficit committee have not told us. So unless the DEM get the middle class and the 45m that are paying zero in taxes....get the corporation like GE into paying "their fair share"....the country still has a wheel on the fiscal cliff.
This coming from a report by the Aerospace Industry Association. Likely most of those losing employment will be the middle class, as the DEM desire to punish the 1% and those making over $250,000.
The DEM have control of the Senate.....that has not passed a budget for 3 years. Have again placing the country at the fiscal cliff. Again another "crisis".
As Senator D Patty Murray has told. She is very determine to debate the issue in 2013, costing the Obama jobs gain of 4.4m....nearly 2.0m
of them. Or a 1/2 the gains made. All to tax the wealthy 1%ers and the $250,000+ers.
Studies show that even if the DEMs get the tax on the 1%ers and the
250,000+ers is doesnot cover the $4b daily deficit that President Obama is running. It is mainly a capitols gains tax increase of only 5%. Netting the Federal government only $350b per year increase. Or about $1b per day. Obama is still running $3b per day short of a balanced FED. budget.
Were that daily $3b is going to come from Senator Patty Murray and her super deficit committee have not told us. So unless the DEM get the middle class and the 45m that are paying zero in taxes....get the corporation like GE into paying "their fair share"....the country still has a wheel on the fiscal cliff.
Hot_Single_Dude: Illuminati does not exist no more and if does... it just a couple of guys having a meeting now and then and stuff, and trying to look influential. Long a go since the 1700,s... and workld to day is much more complicated than being possible to "control" by a small group. Rumors and conspiracy teoris all over the place and nothing than that. Some countries of course havinga great impact on how things are going in the entire world and heads of those nations having a great influence and can shift the shape of the nations generally, but from that to beleive Illuminati some thing is way off!
Unless that small group is full of people called bankers who control our countries money. But I'll save this kind of convo for another place lol I choose neither I vote no confidence in both parties. I wanted to vote for Ron Paul, but since the media went out of their way to ignore him I'll just ignore the two morons that are running.
cloud747: why so much argue? just wait till november ..
We are not arguing in here but trying our bests urging folks voting for one candidate or the other. Two ways to go for America and differences are huge between Republicans and Democrats even many people keep beleiving those are the exact same. For me doing my best with these threads is absolutely important too, even not even one single vote I will be able to change what so ever. America is a very influential super power and what ever happens in America politcally is absolutely crucial for what happens in Denmark or in any other country on the whole planet, and that is why I care.
It is absolutely odd and out of touch with any kinds of imagination, a modern super power like America still allows end of days too old fashioned fenatics, who are not giving a Damn a bout America, but just care a bout how to become able of keeping America under Fear and filling up their endless pockets with blood money... and by that means the so called GOP becoming able to getting the most powerful position on Earth and that is becoming the president of the USA! A free and modern country where it is allowed to study and research and asking questions and people are not sent to jail because of politcal activites like America should NEVER allow a movemnet like GOP getting any kind of real influence and it can still happen and GOP is all over the place!
America have helped other countreis trying to get rid of Taliban and shi* and America it self can any time being given back to the american Taliban you see?
Should I possibly not giving a damn a bout this scarey possible scenario and not writing any thing against this great danger agaisnt this whole planet ?
I like it when it is safe and when anti democracy forces of GOP trying to get the whole thing back then sure... I do the best I can and expressing my thoughts, and of course I want americans them selves discussing issues in these threads and explaining each other why they support Dems or Republicans in their own way.
Beside all this a cool and gathered guy just enjoying politics as being absolutely interesting.
Rio32186: Unless that small group is full of people called bankers who control our countries money. But I'll save this kind of convo for another place lol I choose neither I vote no confidence in both parties. I wanted to vote for Ron Paul, but since the media went out of their way to ignore him I'll just ignore the two morons that are running.
But Ron Paul is no "independent" as he loves to look like and is a for ever member of the Republican party, and would bring a 5000 or more Republicans on charge on all very important positions in the country, if ever elected you see? Paul loves to talk and act as if there are any differences between him and other Republicans but Hey... is it illegal to get him self out of THAT GOP thing once and for all and acting as a real independent ? Will some body put him in jail if he says he is no Republican no more? Of course not!
Would you personally trusting Republicans back on charge and the whole package of Cheney and Ramsfeldt and Bolton and Jack the Ripper and so on , even after the catasrophy of econmical melting down because of the Bushney,s on power in the dark years of 2001-2008? Republicans do the exact same regarding econmiy each and every time and bringing the country on a collapse and what GWB did was not the first time any way. Would you want Republicans back on charge this Early?
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Wow Cciny my dear! Welcome back! Long time no see
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