Obama or Romney? That is the Question! (836)

Jun 16, 2012 7:43 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Well my thoughts on why 800,000 Dreamers are getting 2 years of additional stay in the US without deportation.....

Wisconsin recall vote.

Is the short answer. Then when polling showed WI to have a 11 point swing to Romney. Placing Romeny 4 points up. The White House went into damage control. Like him or not, Rush Limbaugh is saying they are in panic in the White House.

This hasty decision to keep ICE from deporting the Dreamers.....slides around US Law, was done with out Congressional approval, and is just a 2 year reprieve.

President Obama and the DEM had two years of total control of the government.....but did not even place a immigration bill into effect.
So began to see a real lag in hispanic interest and votes. They WI recall hit. They realized how motivated the opposition is. REP got out the vote big time, in WI.

They realized that just bringing the LGET group under the DEM wings was not going to be enough to beat Romney. So now they turn to the hispanic voter, playing on the illegal alien issues softest point.
The Dreamers.

Dreamers are young latinos that are caught in this illegal alien mess. Either by birth or by parents slipping into the country.....they are here. But their legal status....as either a US citizen or a illegal is still be hashed out in the courts.

But enter the President. To go political on the issue. But he only gives them a 730 day reprieve....then it is adiodos amigo and amiga.
What kind of solutions is that? In two years will the issue change that much? But that is to save the mid DEM vote that is torn on the issue.

No, what might very well happen is a REP win in November. So he leaves it on the Oval Office desk for Romney to step into and deal with. Knowing that later DEMs can attack on the decisions made.

Legally none of these 800,000 vote. But their parents will vote illegally. And the hispanic that are encouraged now to come into the country will illegally vote.

This is a great reason why Washington is broken. When the Oval office makes a half hearted decision, that is so political.....the only real winner is the a person south of the border.
Jun 16, 2012 4:45 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
gleneagle: I don't think it matters much who's in the White House as long as AIPAC controls the purse strings!


I too beleive the big influence of AIPAC is rather worrying and tries to make sure that biggest and most powerful corporations, acheiving influence on the politics of the White House. Still... it doesmatter I am certin , since GOP generally is a bribed organisation with not much care a bout human rights and equality and peace and cooporation amoung world nations and then GOP is and will always be much mopre influences by AIPAC and such, then Dems. Of cours ewe normal human beings can not much much or any influence on the status quo but still... All I hope is Dems who ar eway more Decent than GOP have been like forever are my hope keeping power in the White House... this year and also in the elctions of 2016. GOP is not amovemnet of modernism or accepting the state of reality or such, and a world full of dangers and terror and wars and never ending conflicts and as many dictators as possible is THE absolute prefered world of the dang GOP, since GOP lives and blossom out of majorities misory and the benefits of very few and brutal and careless, is all the GOP needs keep being able of milking the whole nation and getting hannds on it,s critics and "anti american2 calling those who hate the GOTS of THAT thing, and keep sending money to Swiss and other crook states secret bank accounts! I like this wolrd being more ordinary and peaceful and full of care nad love and a MAD MAX stupid runned world becuase of the dang GOP also means way faster destruction of this whole planet,s environment and then what we have got left? dunno

Of course people matter, different politcal parties matter, diffrent folks on charge up to personal and politcal points of views matter... There is not way what so ever to claim that they are the same and I have never accepted this point of view I may admit. GWB on power gave a freaking night mare to billions of human beings almost any where and now we can at least sleep better uh oh
Jun 16, 2012 5:07 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
Doesn't really matter who becomes president anymore

Laws and bills in the USA are decided by the congress and house of representatives....which comprise of something like 535 members

This is why not much happens - you have to get over 250 politicians to vote for one bill to get it passed...

Big oil, big manufacturing, big auto companies, big drug companies, big agriculture, etc....they are deciding what happens in America - not the President
Jun 16, 2012 6:08 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: Doesn't really matter who becomes president anymore

Laws and bills in the USA are decided by the congress and house of representatives....which comprise of something like 535 members

This is why not much happens - you have to get over 250 politicians to vote for one bill to get it passed...

Big oil, big manufacturing, big auto companies, big drug companies, big agriculture, etc....they are deciding what happens in America - not the President


I know! you are right... but still it is rather important what presidnet is on charge and the president,s influence and the rpesident,s decisions and eagor to get things done in one way or antoehr, is way important for what becomes a law and what laws are getting done, and the presindet is also able of veto decisións of the house if those are rather destructiv for the country in deed.

If presidency was not that important, there would not be these huge efforts and usage of billions in order to send one or the other president to the White house.

Really... have there not been a single change to notice around you up to who was on power in the White house? Not a single change what so ever? Of course there are changes!

Here and now sure... Republcians got much influence because of the results of Nov 2010 elcetions but still... the presidnet on charge have been able of getting some absolutely laws through houses even huge opposition of all those elected Republicans.

Big industry generally got the money and is able to creating jobs or killing jobs and then what is going on in America or any where else is absolutely effected by the same, but still... up to what president the same industry gets more or less influence on the shape of the country I beleive.
Jun 16, 2012 6:09 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
More Dirty freaking secrets of the dang GOP Revealed:



Study it... Think... and LEARN some thing! professor
Jun 16, 2012 6:18 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
_banky
_banky_bankycalgary, Alberta Canada20 Posts
wall street pays for both of them

no difference between them

dont waste your time voting your not changing anything
Jun 16, 2012 6:24 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ever green of the week:

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rolling on the floor laughing

Buttheads!!!!!!!!!!!doh mumbling
Jun 16, 2012 6:43 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
_banky: wall street pays for both of them

no difference between them

dont waste your time voting your not changing anything


But no matter what you say man... right wingers always standing on lin lines in fornt of voting places from early morning and then sending another dang GWB on charge or worse, while some folks keep thinking there is no change what so ever no matter who is the president.There are of course similarities because being the president of America being this powerful and influential is rather complicatedand some things never change of course.. but still a lot things can change up to who is on the top in America. you tell me... not a single thing have changed in America or in the entire planet compairing GWB to Obama? Not a thing? Are you sure? What did u feel seeing GWB on tv back then? Did the man on charge do a great job back then? How did America looked like before he took over and some years after? How was America doing from mounths before GWB left office? Have there not been any major changes in America,s shape after president Obama began on january 20, 2009?

To better or to worse up to what kind of politics u personally support of course... Really not a single thing? If people are not participating what is the absoloute likely out come of november elections this very year you beleive?

In democratic countries people got the ability to change the shape of the nation up to what kind of politicans they are sending on charge and I beleive possibility of participating in elections is a very hard earned right America and each other countreis as well have to do all to keep, and guard.

Why do you think it is so digusting in intellectual peoples eyes , seeing GOP governers doing one dirty trick after the other, in order to destroy people,s possibilities for voting on who ever they want to? Why GOP is so desperately fighting for killing off all possible democratic voters where ever in America GOP got the power ? Why do you think that Taliban the sister organisation of GOP in Pakistan and Afghanistan... also Hates the gots of elections and forcing people not to vote, and describing their hatered by claiming things will be the exact same no matter what?
Jun 17, 2012 2:43 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: But no matter what you say man... right wingers always standing on lin lines in fornt of voting places from early morning and then sending another dang GWB on charge or worse, while some folks keep thinking there is no change what so ever no matter who is the president.There are of course similarities because being the president of America being this powerful and influential is rather complicatedand some things never change of course.. but still a lot things can change up to who is on the top in America. you tell me... not a single thing have changed in America or in the entire planet compairing GWB to Obama? Not a thing? Are you sure? What did u feel seeing GWB on tv back then? Did the man on charge do a great job back then? How did America looked like before he took over and some years after? How was America doing from mounths before GWB left office? Have there not been any major changes in America,s shape after president Obama began on january 20, 2009?


Bush freed fifty million people. You believe freedom is bad?doh


Hot_Single_Dude:
To better or to worse up to what kind of politics u personally support of course... Really not a single thing? If people are not participating what is the absoloute likely out come of november elections this very year you beleive?


Another democrat win.doh

Hot_Single_Dude: In democratic countries people got the ability to change the shape of the nation up to what kind of politicans they are sending on charge and I beleive possibility of participating in elections is a very hard earned right America and each other countreis as well have to do all to keep, and guard.


I agree!

Hot_Single_Dude: Why do you think it is so digusting in intellectual peoples eyes , seeing GOP governers doing one dirty trick after the other, in order to destroy people,s possibilities for voting on who ever they want to? Why GOP is so desperately fighting for killing off all possible democratic voters where ever in America GOP got the power ?


Huh?

Hot_Single_Dude: Why do you think that Taliban the sister organisation of GOP in Pakistan and Afghanistan... also Hates the gots of elections and forcing people not to vote, and describing their hatered by claiming things will be the exact same no matter what?


Wow. And the democrats have not charged anybody with this crime yet you from Denmark seem to have knowledge of it. And, in a systematic form.

Why has the demoratic party not come forth with these charges?confused
Jun 17, 2012 7:21 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Syria bleeds while President Obama campaigns in Air Force One.

Yesterday, the Syrian Peace Keeper said that are stopping patrol in the strifed country.....because of the violence level and increased risk
to them.

Yesterday President Obama was in Chicago campaigning.

At least it was not the golf course. And in Air Force One besides the most recent scores of the Euro Tour.....he could actually get info on events in Syria. None of which are pretty.

He has let departing Hillary Clinton carry the Syrian ball for most of the time. While standing in the background, saying Assad needs to go, Assad needs to go, Assad needs to go.

The matra is not reaching Damascus. Nor is Assad going into the dust bin of history without a fight. With 10,000 tanks & personnel carriers, 600 combat aircraft, 300 helos...60 of them HINDs and another 60 Gazelles. Assad is well prepared for a fight. Russia has put a lot of money and weapons into Syria.

So this really is a old cold war stuff. Proxie war fighting. Here Putin has played Obama for a amateur. He built up the Syrian military during the last four years of the Obama administration, while Obama had a announced withdrawal from Iraq and reduced the US military presence there. While Obama has put MIL into the Arab League countries of the region.

Only difference is. Assad is willing to use his. The Arab League countries is keeping theirs in the base depots and air bases.

Russia first got Obama to reduce on nuc and now can intangile him into another middle eastern war. If the UN General Assembly says to Obama..."Peace Keep" Syria to him........ here is our mandate to..... of course he will. He is the Nobel Peace winner and Nobel Peace winners follow the UN orders religiously. So you can get a Russian v US military face off in Syria. When foreign 3rd parties ask President Obama for anything....they get it. Remember Libya?

But the Russian reset button was pressed. Obama thought he could trust the Russian bear not to do Cold war type stuff. He even asked them for
some "space" during the election. He really got that from his trusted Russian friends that are sending counter terrorist (e.g. Spetnaz) units, HINDS and Sukios-23s to Syria. I guess he did not push the right reset button in Russia........

So he was sucked in like a rank amateur on Syria. So badly wanting a Iraq withdrawal, He had to give a timeline to the world.....and gave the Russian knowledge to his plans. But this is the great leak administration of transperency. The Russians would have gotten his timeline of withdraw from a White House insider anyways. Rumor in DC....is the big leaker in the Obama administration...is none other
than VP Biden. (I will let you figure that out).

But my drift is this...for 30 years Senator Biden sat on the Foreign committee....so developed many foreign friends over the years. Just like Jimmy Carter.....developed....who as a friend in Syria? Alawites. So anyways....Biden's foreign friends ask him for insider knowledge to Obama's decisions and plans. Biden is like a loose cannon with only to much to tell here.

So maybe Biden has been spilling the beans on Obama's plans. You need to remember that Biden was running against the President in the DEM nomination process of 2008. They did not have much nice to say about each other then. So if Biden has flipped on the Obama administration. Why? Maybe Biden got tired off being played off as the steel working middle class from Scranton, NJ. At least that is what he said at Orlando recently.


So ain't that a can of bad peaches?
Jun 17, 2012 8:48 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
derda
derdaderdachur, Grisons Switzerland23 Threads 3 Polls 132 Posts
Obama...Romney could only do worse! Romney will bring the US economy to it's knees again, as did Bush. I'm not sure about Syria, hence no comment about that. I only want to express my sorrow about such narrow minded fighting.
Jun 17, 2012 8:52 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Michelle Obama contact me a coule of days ago....asking.....that I wish President Obama a "Happy Fathers" day.

Since both He and Mitt Romney are fathers...and in a wish to be fair and balanced....I wish them both a Happy Fathers day.
Jun 17, 2012 8:57 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
derda: Obama...Romney could only do worse! Romney will bring the US economy to it's knees again, as did Bush. I'm not sure about Syria, hence no comment about that. I only want to express my sorrow about such narrow minded fighting.


If you don't mind....Americans would appreciate not to become another Europe with failing governments from excessive spending. As the Tea Party Gov Walker of Wisconsin has shown....government spending can be controlled while making a small business friendly environment. Mitt Romney will take a similar approach to restore the economy that was sold to the Chinese by the Obama administration.
Jun 17, 2012 9:03 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Albertaghost: Bush freed fifty million people. You believe freedom is bad?

Another democrat win.
I agree!
Huh?
Wow. And the democrats have not charged anybody with this crime yet you from Denmark seem to have knowledge of it. And, in a systematic form.

Why has the demoratic party not come forth with these charges?


With President Obama killing Americans without due process, surely if the GOP was connected to the Taliban in any shape or manner......he would be sending the FBI to their offices and shutting them down.

But hey maybe that is why we have EPA drones flying over Iowa today....to measure the cow poo in the stock yards.....when it can be done from satellite imagery.

You got to watch that EPA under a very liberal administration.....they might get the approval to place a hellfire missile on you for excessive cow poo.grin
Jun 18, 2012 7:32 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hey.....Dude.....Romney's 4 yo grandson Parker....asked his Papa if he had beaten Obama yet. When Papa said no. Then asked Parker.....who he wanted to win....Parker pointed to Papa Romney.

So it is official. American youth are divided over who should be
the American President in 2012....grin
Jun 18, 2012 8:11 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Having never played golf before being elected to the Presidency. President Obama sure has picked up a licking for the game.

Since taking office....he has played 100 rounds of golf. Yep he swings golf clubs and is in the clubhouse set.....alot...))

Now consider....GWB also played golf. But .....in August 2003 after the Iraq war commenced. He gave it up. As DEM like Axlerod complained that he was spending to much time on the course. To David Axlerod it was a 'disgrace' that GWB played golf while American troops were in the field.

Well David...can you tell us how you feel about President Obama? The President some are calling Golfer in Chief?

I did a little math here. I estimate that the President has spent 7% of his Presidency on the Golf course. That to my knowledge is not in the job description. Can we dock his annual pay....of $400,000 by 7%?
That is $112,000 for his four year term.
grin
Jun 18, 2012 4:14 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
derda: Obama...Romney could only do worse! Romney will bring the US economy to it's knees again, as did Bush. I'm not sure about Syria, hence no comment about that. I only want to express my sorrow about such narrow minded fighting.
Welcome here Derda cheers
Jun 18, 2012 4:21 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: If you don't mind....Americans would appreciate not to become another Europe with failing governments from excessive spending. As the Tea Party Gov Walker of Wisconsin has shown....government spending can be controlled while making a small business friendly environment. Mitt Romney will take a similar approach to restore the economy that was sold to the Chinese by the Obama administration.


Yeah... What ever TT:

Jun 18, 2012 4:27 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Hey.....Dude.....Romney's 4 yo grandson Parker....asked his Papa if he had beaten Obama yet. When Papa said no. Then asked Parker.....who he wanted to win....Parker pointed to Papa Romney.

So it is official. American youth are divided over who should be
the American President in 2012....


Poor kid having a job killed monster sending America,s money to Swiss banks, and have created misory and poverty for so many ameirican families, and is in arms with the neocon gropus out sourcing -america,s feauter to china and India and else where... as grammy moping
Jun 18, 2012 4:53 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Let check the polls.....Romney v Obama.

Please note that is not McCain v Obama or GWB v Obama.

Michigan, a union and DEM state....has it Obama by 1 very thin point
47 to 46

A second Michigan poll has it ....Romney by 8 50 to 42

NJersey Poll has it Obama......56 to 33

Iowa has it Obama by a thin single point...47 t 46

North Carolina has it Romney......48 to 46

Rascusson has it Obama .....42 to 41 Nationwide.

About as close as it gets. Hence the Obama campaign has been
playing all their late campaign cards....the Gay and Lesbian announcement....the Dreamer announcement....now. These were most definitely late campaign issues to 'pull out the minority vote'.

But with the 2012 race so close.....because of what was seen by the REP and Tea Party strength in Walker recall Wisconsin vote. Axlerod changed strategy and threw the late campaign minority issues out.

But it just shows Obama to be a far left liberal candidate to the IND and Mid Road voter. Now that IND and Mid road voter have move to the left on the last decade. But how much to the left?

It also proves what conservative were saying Obama from the 2008, to be accurate. We said he was a far left kind of guy. They hid it, buried it, twisted it.....but when they come out and act like it.
It proves your point. To the IND and Mid voter...Romney a mid roader....starts to look better. This baby is going to won and lost in the IND voter....that today 38% identifies with.

Credibility still plays a role here. Will the American public accept a liberal wolf candidate that put on the sheep clothing of a mid roader? A second time? Romney can dig into this in the debates....and expect him to.

The American public has seen leaks, corruption, stonewalled investigations, and other ethical issues from the Obama administration for the last 3 1/2 years. If Romney goes after his credibility in the
debates...it will strike home and make votes in my thinking.

Biden does not help him here. According to Reagon's son....its Biden that is doing the leaking. Why? I don't know. It hard to understand the team work and relationship these two have. Leaks are damaging to a administration....the credibility issue. And to have the VP doing the el leako? It makes little sense.

Biden was in Central Florida two days ago....now Axlerod has him painted as a hard hat kind of guy coming Scranton PA. In reality Biden is a Ivy League kind of guy with a law degree. Biden said a s much in the Central Florida gathering.

Now....little more.

Remember the 8b FED high speed rail from Orlando to Tampa to Miami?
A chunk of change, yes? A private firm is offering to make the Orlando to Miami leg for 1b. All private money and not single tax payer dollar in it. Opps.....FL REP Mica....a REP....that sits on the Transportation committee. Grabbed it. Says he can ram it thru Congress.
The private firm would employ 7000.

But.....if this happens across the country on Obama high speed rail deals. The Private sector to the rescue again.....
Jun 19, 2012 4:46 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I think I have learned how Obama does it.

In Quebec girl's school yesterday.....a new hypnotist left the 12 and 13 year old girls in a trance for up to 4 hours. As he was unable to break the trance that he has placed them into. Clearly this was kind of new liberal educational project.

He had to contact his mentor to find out how to break the trance, that had the girls with their heads on the tables in zombie like states of mind.

I think that Obama uses some kind of mass hypontist on his followers....This would explain the OWS zombies....that if asked what brought on this state of mind.....have no answer but a distant look of being lost. Only instead of placing their heads on the table, thy riot in the streets.

I say this because in Norway.....a injured and lost American hiker....on a remote Island. After three days, set a rescue fire.....that got out of control and burn much of the island down.
Again, clearly a liberal.

But returning to the idea that President Obama is a just mass hypnotist that places a trance like spell on his followers......what is the solution. Most often if one snaps their fingers this will break a trance like state.

So this is for Dude dancing

grin
Jun 19, 2012 6:15 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hey Dude ...who said....

"We cannot mortgage our children's future on a mountain of debt."?
Jun 19, 2012 6:23 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Jack68
Jack68Jack68faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan72 Threads 30 Polls 2,605 Posts
You should add Hilarry in that list instead of Obama then you see all the mens votes goes to hercheers
Jun 20, 2012 12:57 AM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
ttom500: Hey Dude ...who said....

"We cannot mortgage our children's future on a mountain of debt."?


Everyone is learning you can't believe anything Obama says, he is only looking out for himself and no one else.
If you have not seen the video from his Harvard law prof check it out directly on YouTube.
Go to YT and search Prof Unger "Beyond Obama" Unger posted directly to YouTube but yahoo,Huntington Post and many others are replaying the 9 min video. Unger states flat out why Obama should not be reelected in his opinion. Uungers views are purely socialistic in my opinion but he makes some very interesting and factual observations about Obama.
Jun 20, 2012 2:23 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
JustDon29: Everyone is learning you can't believe anything Obama says, he is only looking out for himself and no one else.
If you have not seen the video from his Harvard law prof check it out directly on YouTube.
Go to YT and search Prof Unger "Beyond Obama" Unger posted directly to YouTube but yahoo,Huntington Post and many others are replaying the 9 min video. Unger states flat out why Obama should not be reelected in his opinion. Uungers views are purely socialistic in my opinion but he makes some very interesting and factual observations about Obama.


You spoiled my fun here, Don. No biggie. But our resident Obama supporter is so wrapped up into him......but never seems to know
Obama quotes when they are posted.

Obama said this back in the 2008....to get IND and Mid road voters.
REP in Florida have made it into a campaign add.

I saw Unger's UTube already. Well what I saw was HARvard Prof that was really ticked off at the course of the nation.....clearly he felt Obama was going to take the Nation off into far left socialism.

He was going to supply the red paint to cover old red white and blue ....and to make some Communist flag. Where it was Obama or the 2010 mid term Tea Party win that stopped that....am not sure.

But Unger is one ticked off socialist.....the hands placing a death grip on the chair is a clue there.....)))....
Jun 20, 2012 5:49 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Not going to start this post off about AG Holder being held in contempt of Congress over the Fast and Furious documents. But will come back to it at the end.

Rather going to talk Joel Peralta, a picture for Tampa Bay MBL team.
Peralta a reliever ws entering the game, when the opposing coach Davey Johnson for the Washington Nationals....ask the umpires to check him for a 'foreign substance'. See if you place a foreign substance on a baseball that is thrown at 90 mph.....you can make the ball do all sorts of funny things. It is illegal to 'doctor' a ball.

Sure enough....Peralta had pine tar on his glove....according to the umps....a substantial amount. Before throwing one pitch.....Peralta was ejected out of the game.

Well AG Holder was just ejected out of the game.

A Congressional contempt order on a Attroeny General.....says in effect....we don't trust you. You are feeding us a load of BS. You
are avoiding the people questions and you are ducking the issues.

In some cultures, they would simply ask the man to leave the country or commit some kind of ceremony prior to having the axe come down.
The United States is much to gentile for that. Basically, we say you are in contempt of government authorities.....and have lost standing to speak here.

President Obama attempted to save his AG, with a executive order on the Fast and Furious documents...that they were priviledged. But with some of them having been released earlier....that flew like a lame duck
in a shooting gallery.

So what now?

Congress will not get the documents that have been made priviledged. Obama will hide behind his order.....and the truth of why Fast Furious was done...and why two American and untold number of Mexicans were killed by the cartels using the guns.

The White House is hoping that it will die and quick death in public opinion and in media. Not so fast.....the REP will be talking Fast and Furious in every campaign commercial were they want to attack ...Obama on creditability...on transperency...on South West border cartel drug wars...hispanic voters......

The country already sees this as a major dark mark on Obama's presidency. The REP are not going to let him off the hook....they placed him on it. Now to convert that into votes.......

Back to baseball.....Tampa Bay won 5 to 4.......
Jun 20, 2012 6:05 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
ttom500: You spoiled my fun here, Don. No biggie. But our resident Obama supporter is so wrapped up into him......but never seems to know
Obama quotes when they are posted.

Obama said this back in the 2008....to get IND and Mid road voters.
REP in Florida have made it into a campaign add.

I saw Unger's UTube already. Well what I saw was HARvard Prof that was really ticked off at the course of the nation.....clearly he felt Obama was going to take the Nation off into far left socialism.

He was going to supply the red paint to cover old red white and blue ....and to make some Communist flag. Where it was Obama or the 2010 mid term Tea Party win that stopped that....am not sure.

But Unger is one ticked off socialist.....the hands placing a death grip on the chair is a clue there.....)))....


ttom Our Obama supporter #1 Dude will probably just say G. Bush made Unger make the video comments. You do know Bush still controls EVERYTHING.
Can't Wait for the Supreme Court ruling knocking out the Health Care nightmare.
Jun 20, 2012 6:23 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I think I have learned how Obama does it.

In Quebec girl's school yesterday.....a new hypnotist left the 12 and 13 year old girls in a trance for up to 4 hours. As he was unable to break the trance that he has placed them into. Clearly this was kind of new liberal educational project.

He had to contact his mentor to find out how to break the trance, that had the girls with their heads on the tables in zombie like states of mind.

I think that Obama uses some kind of mass hypontist on his followers....This would explain the OWS zombies....that if asked what brought on this state of mind.....have no answer but a distant look of being lost. Only instead of placing their heads on the table, thy riot in the streets.

I say this because in Norway.....a injured and lost American hiker....on a remote Island. After three days, set a rescue fire.....that got out of control and burn much of the island down.
Again, clearly a liberal.

But returning to the idea that President Obama is a just mass hypnotist that places a trance like spell on his followers......what is the solution. Most often if one snaps their fingers this will break a trance like state.

So this is for Dude


No hypno no nothing man! The answer is if majority of americnas really think and not allowing GOP governers from any places in America removing their rights participating in free elections... then president Obama will win a gain and will be able of countinuation of his honorable work for getting America back on track, and rebuilding the country after unimaginable dammages of the Bushney,s and their evil empire on charge in the dakr years of 2001-2008... on the other hand... allowing anti democracy GOP vip,s keep countinuing their horrible efforts against the very definition of freedom will increase THE greatest dange against America,s feauter, which is another job killer, anti democracy, anti workers rights butthead on the pay list of oil and war industry on charge and a very few in America will gain major time, and the rest will keep struggling with out many positive results regarding their perosnal lives and well beings.

Hypnoses and stuff? Get the freak out of here man... GOP is all a bout mass propoganda and fooling even some of the very people out there whose lives and well beings are absolutely dammaged because of GOP and it,s out of date politcis. President Obama do not need hynotyse and stuff my man... He just simpoly Rocks and that,s it!
Jun 20, 2012 6:35 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Hey Dude ...who said....

"We cannot mortgage our children's future on a mountain of debt."?


Obama told so and he was very right and he told it because Bushonomics had resulted in a broken economy, and the stupid war on Iraq had given America,s feauter to China for decades and the stupid stop of war aganist terror in Afghanistan had created weakness of american shares!

What the new president could do then? Stoppping war agaisnt terror? Stopping medicaid and medicare and pensions and veteran benefits and firing police officers and fire fighters and destroying unions and destroying education and health care for the poor and stopping development of infrasturctur and descriminising against Women and colured and immigrants and relegious minorities and single parents and stuff... the DAMN GOP kind of so called solving problems of America???? tongue
Jun 20, 2012 6:40 PM CST Obama or Romney? That is the Question!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Jack68: You should add Hilarry in that list instead of Obama then you see all the mens votes goes to her

I was not so sure a bout her, when given a very important position in the new administration... and had kind of expected that she would countiue her presidential campain from back then in 2007-2008 .... but all right! She have done well any way, and actually much better than expected.

If you are for ladies older than ur self cool with me ... Go for her! cheers laugh

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