christianty verus muslim,, which one is better for living (98)
EagleWoman: I did
I've gotta keep track of you girl...
stringman: religion will not save you but GOD will.the question should be, do you believe in GOD not religion.
Which God??? mine,yours,the neighbor's next door.- 
stringman: religion will not save you but GOD will.the question should be, do you believe in GOD not religion.
The term God is a creation of man. A need to explain something beyond his immediate understanding.
Even before any organized religion came into being, man needed that something. The Native Americans called it Mother Earth, The Great Spirit. Other civilizations chose the Sun as the supreme entity. Etc etc etc.
As to the all seeing, all knowing conscious supreme being...that was introduced in quite recent human history, and in most cased, abused and warped to retain control over the populations.
uptall: I've gotta keep track of you girl...
I bet you say that to all the girls
EagleWoman: Right!! STARTING to understand ...
What if you have experiences that are only proven as "possible" in ten years time? Because scientists were too busy working on "theories" that "suited" particular governemnts of "the times"?
What if you have experiences that are only proven as "possible" in ten years time? Because scientists were too busy working on "theories" that "suited" particular governemnts of "the times"?
There is only one constant that we can all be sure of.....CHANGE.
That is the modern guiding force in Science. Yes, there were times that accepted norm of scientific knowledge were confined by the political will of the time.
The Catholic Church actually condemned Galileo when he first professed the world to be round.
But those barriers have been falling exponentially as time progressed. Humanity has never known so many new frontiers of discovery as in these last couple of decades. And in fact I truly believe that we are also on the threshold of a new dawn for humanity. The next step into a still unclear future that will take humanity into a new era.
chris27292729: Which God??? mine,yours,the neighbor's next door.-
there is only one GOD, and if you want to add the devil ok.
EagleWoman: I bet you say that to all the girls
No, only the ones I'd like to snuggle up to
stringman: there is only one GOD, and if you want to add the devil ok.
Oh I like the sound of the devil
....lets have a drink on it 
stringman: there will be faults religions using GOD as front.to bad but GOD said there will be faults prophets.
"" God said "" you contradict your post #27.. God said refers to religion.
GOD said there will be faults prophets
stringman: GOD said there will be faults prophets
he must have been talking about the scammers on here
gozoman2: There is only one constant that we can all be sure of.....CHANGE.
That is the modern guiding force in Science. Yes, there were times that accepted norm of scientific knowledge were confined by the political will of the time.
The Catholic Church actually condemned Galileo when he first professed the world to be round.
But those barriers have been falling exponentially as time progressed. Humanity has never known so many new frontiers of discovery as in these last couple of decades. And in fact I truly believe that we are also on the threshold of a new dawn for humanity. The next step into a still unclear future that will take humanity into a new era.
That is the modern guiding force in Science. Yes, there were times that accepted norm of scientific knowledge were confined by the political will of the time.
The Catholic Church actually condemned Galileo when he first professed the world to be round.
But those barriers have been falling exponentially as time progressed. Humanity has never known so many new frontiers of discovery as in these last couple of decades. And in fact I truly believe that we are also on the threshold of a new dawn for humanity. The next step into a still unclear future that will take humanity into a new era.
Yep!!! Due to a "shift" in human awareness/consciousness.
Whether it be proven by scientists or not!! uptall: he must have been talking about the scammers on here
stringman: there is only one GOD, and if you want to add the devil ok.
I might not agree with you, but I will give my life for your freedom to believe what you wish.......
....so long as you do not try to impose it on me too.....
uptall: No, only the ones I'd like to snuggle up to
How many are there? What if they ALL say "Yes please" at the same time?
stringman: GOD said there will be faults prophets
First you put a voice in GOD,then why allowed,faults prophets to undermined his authority????
gozoman2: I might not agree with you, but I will give my life for your freedom to believe what you wish.......
....so long as you do not try to impose it on me too.....
Thats was he is trying.. Preaching.... A few more posts and he will converted you.-....so long as you do not try to impose it on me too.....
chris27292729: First you put a voice in GOD,then why allowed,faults prophets to undermined his authority????
what are politicians?
EagleWoman: How many are there?
What if they ALL say "Yes please" at the same time?
What if they ALL say "Yes please" at the same time?
I think that's what you call a party
......... gozoman2: I might not agree with you, but I will give my life for your freedom to believe what you wish.......
....so long as you do not try to impose it on me too.....
....so long as you do not try to impose it on me too.....
nope not imposing nothing on anyone just answering the best i can.
And on top of it,we Greeks,never allowed the bible to be translated to the proximity of 100%, as to make people wondered,the accuracy of Bible's translation
RayfromUSA: The problem is that the Bible is not a single work. It's a compilation of a lot of different texts. There really isn't much in common between the New Testament and the Old except a thread of prophecy.
I'm not one who believes the entire "Bible" is magically infallible.
As far as I'm concerned the Old Testament is mostly myth. I don't think that Adam, ever existed except as a sort of metaphor. Historically it's pretty clear that Moses never existed and the Habiru (Hebrews) took over Canaan not by conquest but by simply multiplying faster than the indigenous Canaanites and squatting the land. And its clear that neither David nor Solomon ever had the great kingdoms that some claim they did. They never ruled anything but Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. And from the time of the divided kingdoms the Jews never held any territory except Judea (the area just around Jerusalem). Even the modern state that calls itself Israel is far bigger than what the Jews actually ever controlled at any prior time.
The exploits of King David are like those of King Arthur, greatly exaggerated and romanticized. That was the tradition in those day, to rewrite history, exaggerating the victories and forgetting the defeats. It's still the trend today. Only now history is written on computer disks instead of chiseled in stone. Much easier to change now.
The only part of the Bible that can be counted on for relative historical accuracy is the New Testament.
The rest should be considered Jewish mythology. Interesting in order to understand the roots of the culture but of no historical value.
I'm not one who believes the entire "Bible" is magically infallible.
As far as I'm concerned the Old Testament is mostly myth. I don't think that Adam, ever existed except as a sort of metaphor. Historically it's pretty clear that Moses never existed and the Habiru (Hebrews) took over Canaan not by conquest but by simply multiplying faster than the indigenous Canaanites and squatting the land. And its clear that neither David nor Solomon ever had the great kingdoms that some claim they did. They never ruled anything but Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. And from the time of the divided kingdoms the Jews never held any territory except Judea (the area just around Jerusalem). Even the modern state that calls itself Israel is far bigger than what the Jews actually ever controlled at any prior time.
The exploits of King David are like those of King Arthur, greatly exaggerated and romanticized. That was the tradition in those day, to rewrite history, exaggerating the victories and forgetting the defeats. It's still the trend today. Only now history is written on computer disks instead of chiseled in stone. Much easier to change now.
The only part of the Bible that can be counted on for relative historical accuracy is the New Testament.
The rest should be considered Jewish mythology. Interesting in order to understand the roots of the culture but of no historical value.
stringman: what are politicians?
What are they to you???uptall: I think that's what you call a party .........
Yeah!!! A girl´s night out!!!Sooooooooooooo we might not invite you
Better still!! You can hire a limo and be our chauffeur chris27292729: What are they to you???
liersstringman: liers
Interesting considering they´re the ones who manipulated/invented religion as we know it ...
stringman: what are politicians?
Greedy and corrupt people in suits smiling at you while they shaft you....
RayfromUSA: The problem is that the Bible is not a single work. It's a compilation of a lot of different texts. There really isn't much in common between the New Testament and the Old except a thread of prophecy.
I'm not one who believes the entire "Bible" is magically infallible.
As far as I'm concerned the Old Testament is mostly myth. I don't think that Adam, ever existed except as a sort of metaphor. Historically it's pretty clear that Moses never existed and the Habiru (Hebrews) took over Canaan not by conquest but by simply multiplying faster than the indigenous Canaanites and squatting the land. And its clear that neither David nor Solomon ever had the great kingdoms that some claim they did. They never ruled anything but Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. And from the time of the divided kingdoms the Jews never held any territory except Judea (the area just around Jerusalem). Even the modern state that calls itself Israel is far bigger than what the Jews actually ever controlled at any prior time.
The exploits of King David are like those of King Arthur, greatly exaggerated and romanticized. That was the tradition in those day, to rewrite history, exaggerating the victories and forgetting the defeats. It's still the trend today. Only now history is written on computer disks instead of chiseled in stone. Much easier to change now.
The only part of the Bible that can be counted on for relative historical accuracy is the New Testament.
The rest should be considered Jewish mythology. Interesting in order to understand the roots of the culture but of no historical value.
I'm not one who believes the entire "Bible" is magically infallible.
As far as I'm concerned the Old Testament is mostly myth. I don't think that Adam, ever existed except as a sort of metaphor. Historically it's pretty clear that Moses never existed and the Habiru (Hebrews) took over Canaan not by conquest but by simply multiplying faster than the indigenous Canaanites and squatting the land. And its clear that neither David nor Solomon ever had the great kingdoms that some claim they did. They never ruled anything but Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. And from the time of the divided kingdoms the Jews never held any territory except Judea (the area just around Jerusalem). Even the modern state that calls itself Israel is far bigger than what the Jews actually ever controlled at any prior time.
The exploits of King David are like those of King Arthur, greatly exaggerated and romanticized. That was the tradition in those day, to rewrite history, exaggerating the victories and forgetting the defeats. It's still the trend today. Only now history is written on computer disks instead of chiseled in stone. Much easier to change now.
The only part of the Bible that can be counted on for relative historical accuracy is the New Testament.
The rest should be considered Jewish mythology. Interesting in order to understand the roots of the culture but of no historical value.
Ray, when you have the time, check out this link and read the comments below ...
right folks i am closing this thread now
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The way Science does, by studying and looking from every possible angle.
But beyond that particular point you have made, today we ares starting to understand so much of this Universe of which we are part, that we have also now started to understand where we come from, what we are made of, and how we evolved. Such that we now know that we are part of a much more complicated mechanism that surrounds us and dictates our being what we are.
Stardust.
Right!! STARTING to understand ...
What if you have experiences that are only proven as "possible" in ten years time? Because scientists were too busy working on "theories" that "suited" particular governemnts of "the times"?