is there EVER a good enough reason for a man to hit a women???? (305)
jac379: Oooh, I do so like analogies and I particularly like this one.
So, you've committed yourself to the no points cabbage soup, but you see this magnificent pastry in the window. You've admired it, but you resist the temptation, reminding yourself of the bigger goal, go home and go back to your painting.
But, you just can't quite stop thinking about that magnificent pastry. It fills your thoughts, makes your tummy grumble, you swear you can smell it...and before you know it...you've painted the pastry in the middle of your landscape!
You hurriedly and guiltily scrape the painted pastry off the canvass and quickly repaint the landscape, all the while looking over your shoulder hoping the cabbage soup won't have noticed. Phew!
Job done, its time for bed, but you fall into a fitful sleep with your belly gnawing. You wake! You've been dreaming about the pastry! Oh god, it was soooo flaky and succulent...so sweet...
The next day you find yourself drawn to the bakers. You just have to step inside and inhale the aromas...aaaahhhh...there's no calories is sniffing, is there?
And then... and then...and then...when you think all is lost and you start reaching for your purse, you so badly want to consume this magnificent pastry with syrupy stuff and nuts...
...you're period starts and the thought of the pastry just makes you feel nauseous! Ugghh! Whatever made you think you wanted that lump of gooey cardiac arrest, for god's sake??? You've got a wild craving for cracker bread and lettuce and tomatoes and...carrots! Carrots! Carrots!
Have you still be true to your diet? Have you still been focussed on the 'WE'? Have you cheated?
So, you've committed yourself to the no points cabbage soup, but you see this magnificent pastry in the window. You've admired it, but you resist the temptation, reminding yourself of the bigger goal, go home and go back to your painting.
But, you just can't quite stop thinking about that magnificent pastry. It fills your thoughts, makes your tummy grumble, you swear you can smell it...and before you know it...you've painted the pastry in the middle of your landscape!
You hurriedly and guiltily scrape the painted pastry off the canvass and quickly repaint the landscape, all the while looking over your shoulder hoping the cabbage soup won't have noticed. Phew!
Job done, its time for bed, but you fall into a fitful sleep with your belly gnawing. You wake! You've been dreaming about the pastry! Oh god, it was soooo flaky and succulent...so sweet...
The next day you find yourself drawn to the bakers. You just have to step inside and inhale the aromas...aaaahhhh...there's no calories is sniffing, is there?
And then... and then...and then...when you think all is lost and you start reaching for your purse, you so badly want to consume this magnificent pastry with syrupy stuff and nuts...
...you're period starts and the thought of the pastry just makes you feel nauseous! Ugghh! Whatever made you think you wanted that lump of gooey cardiac arrest, for god's sake??? You've got a wild craving for cracker bread and lettuce and tomatoes and...carrots! Carrots! Carrots!
Have you still be true to your diet? Have you still been focussed on the 'WE'? Have you cheated?
i enjoyed that piece of prose.truth be told...i can't hold an attention span that long, jac...
and you have me thinking about all the times i have sniffed food instead of eating it...
, something i actually do. i had a friend that can eat pretty much anything they want, and not gain any weight. i had to teach myself to be satisfied with just sniffing the cookies they were eating each evening, to avoid slapping the extra weight on my thighs that would happen for just a sweet moment of indulgence. again..always focused on the bigger goal...
OP: sorry for the
Didn't you say somewhere "We become our thoughts", Jono?
jac379: Didn't you say somewhere "We become our thoughts", Jono?
Where our thoughts go, our energy flows.
bodleing: Where our thoughts go, our energy flows.
Where does that leave us...
1.With threats of violence?
2.With the emotional cheating scenario?
jac379: Where does that leave us...
1.With threats of violence?
2.With the emotional cheating scenario?
1.With threats of violence?
2.With the emotional cheating scenario?
Not sure about 'us' but for me I just don't entertain violent thoughts anymore...my energy now flows in different directions.
As long as my thoughts stay pure...no one can cheat on me, I am only responsible for my own actions and have no wish to control or subjugate others.
bodleing: Not sure about 'us' but for me I just don't entertain violent thoughts anymore...my energy now flows in different directions.
As long as my thoughts stay pure...no one can cheat on me, I am only responsible for my own actions and have no wish to control or subjugate others.
As long as my thoughts stay pure...no one can cheat on me, I am only responsible for my own actions and have no wish to control or subjugate others.
Okay, not us, given I felt ever so slightly like kicking my own butt today for not checking when I first thought my lawn mower was making a funny noise. I'm not sure it would have made a difference, but there you are.
Hmmm...thinking about the second one. Does 'not giving a monkey's' count? I mean, if someone cheats on you, you didn't have what you thought you had, anyway, did you? I mean, if it was in your mind, no one can take your mind away from you. You take it with you, don't you? You choose what's in it. Not that there wouldn't be some grieving, or upheaval, nor even that our minds wouldn't change by some increment for the experience, but its still our choice to manage our minds.
I just had to check the thread title to see if kicking my own butt would count as being on topic. Only if I was wearing men shoes...
hi jac 
was in studio, now back watching paint dry .
i do think we become our thoughts. i see g has stated it much more clearly than i could
but i wanted to add...
earlier this year, i had the experience of something that happened in my life that really brought me to my knees in despair. and as i sat there having a big ol snot cry...i made myself change my perception of the event and try to witness it differently. by becoming in the moment, and witnessing without my previous judgement, i was actually able to experience a sense of joy.
so i played with that all afternoon...changing my perception back and forth...
i understood in that moment, that i can only control me.
i understood in that moment that everything in my life i have drawn to myself, and i have the choice to learn from it.
i understood in that moment, it's all about perception..and i can change my perception if i am open to change.
i understood in that moment..i am my thoughts. i become my thoughts. so i try to be more vigilant now about witnessing myself, and pay way more attention to mirroring than i used to. i also try to surround myself with positive folks (as i have a tendency to be a whiner...
)
i'm new at this, i don't have any answers...only my questions and opinions.
and i know you and i have talked about this before on here...and i know it sounds corny...but i really do try to think...
if this person was my friend, and i loved/respected them, how would i respond?
like i said...i'm new at this...
the rest of the time i slip back into me, me, me...or get stuck in my fear...the opposite of where i want to go.
was in studio, now back watching paint dry .i do think we become our thoughts. i see g has stated it much more clearly than i could
but i wanted to add...
earlier this year, i had the experience of something that happened in my life that really brought me to my knees in despair. and as i sat there having a big ol snot cry...i made myself change my perception of the event and try to witness it differently. by becoming in the moment, and witnessing without my previous judgement, i was actually able to experience a sense of joy.
so i played with that all afternoon...changing my perception back and forth...
i understood in that moment, that i can only control me.
i understood in that moment that everything in my life i have drawn to myself, and i have the choice to learn from it.
i understood in that moment, it's all about perception..and i can change my perception if i am open to change.
i understood in that moment..i am my thoughts. i become my thoughts. so i try to be more vigilant now about witnessing myself, and pay way more attention to mirroring than i used to. i also try to surround myself with positive folks (as i have a tendency to be a whiner...
)i'm new at this, i don't have any answers...only my questions and opinions.
and i know you and i have talked about this before on here...and i know it sounds corny...but i really do try to think...
if this person was my friend, and i loved/respected them, how would i respond?
like i said...i'm new at this...the rest of the time i slip back into me, me, me...or get stuck in my fear...the opposite of where i want to go.
jono7: if this person was my friend, and i loved/respected them, how would i respond?
No need to remind me, Jono. I've been reminding myself.
jac379: No need to remind me, Jono. I've been reminding myself.
where i still struggle...
gaawwddd...how i love a good one liner, or clever wit...
(good taste, bad taste..just tasty...)i put my foot in my mouth regularly, and jump off the tightrope for a good belly laugh.
and i still get all starry-eyed over brilliance, even when i don't agree with a particular concept.
ps... i like how you dissect things at times...it helps me to strengthen my understanding of stuff discussed here.
as well, i found a sense of comfort from reading that you can't hear voices in large groups. as a result of a surgery i had a couple years ago...i can no longer hear in large groups..it becomes like an intermittent radio signal. i'm still struggling with it, and learning new ways to cope, and your comment helped me to see how cs fills that in a way for me. your comment also made me think, 'i'm in good company'. and i thank you for that.
jac379:
But then thinking that its okay to threaten ones partner with violence doesn't match up with reasoned thinking at all, either. The focus is on the 'ME' and there appears to be a notable lack of comprehension that there's any 'WE' at all.
But then thinking that its okay to threaten ones partner with violence doesn't match up with reasoned thinking at all, either. The focus is on the 'ME' and there appears to be a notable lack of comprehension that there's any 'WE' at all.
agree with ya here, jac.
i prefer for roles to be defined in a partnership, with room for growth and some flexibility towards that growth, within the Us.
i think having an idea of consequences to one's actions within a We is a good idea.
i do not support violence, or threatening one's partner, for many reasons. i previously in this thread commented on my view of violence. and i agree with you...if one is threatening violence it's more than likely they are focused on themselves, and not on a We, because there is no sense of partnership when you're beatin' on someone.
to speak of it, as a future possibility...hmmmm.....i don't think i want to invite that line of thinking into my relationship. why would i want to manifest something like that?? better use of our shared time would be to think of more positive outcomes.
Even I know that you don't ever hit women ever.
jono7: agree with ya here, jac.
i prefer for roles to be defined in a partnership, with room for growth and some flexibility towards that growth, within the Us.
i think having an idea of consequences to one's actions within a We is a good idea.
i do not support violence, or threatening one's partner, for many reasons. i previously in this thread commented on my view of violence. and i agree with you...if one is threatening violence it's more than likely they are focused on themselves, and not on a We, because there is no sense of partnership when you're beatin' on someone.
to speak of it, as a future possibility...hmmmm.....i don't think i want to invite that line of thinking into my relationship. why would i want to manifest something like that?? better use of our shared time would be to think of more positive outcomes.
i prefer for roles to be defined in a partnership, with room for growth and some flexibility towards that growth, within the Us.
i think having an idea of consequences to one's actions within a We is a good idea.
i do not support violence, or threatening one's partner, for many reasons. i previously in this thread commented on my view of violence. and i agree with you...if one is threatening violence it's more than likely they are focused on themselves, and not on a We, because there is no sense of partnership when you're beatin' on someone.
to speak of it, as a future possibility...hmmmm.....i don't think i want to invite that line of thinking into my relationship. why would i want to manifest something like that?? better use of our shared time would be to think of more positive outcomes.
Pillow fights?
StillOfTheNight: Even I know that you don't ever hit women ever.
What if I came at you with me axe?
(serious question)
Manginas 3 .2 .1
jac379: What if I came at you with me axe?
(serious question)
Id deek your axe and run wayyyy faster than you (hopefully)You too jo(serious question)
chatonlyman2: Id deek your axe and run wayyyy faster than you (hopefully)You too jo
You're alright, Chat.
I run like a girl.
(PS. Notice I skipped Jono's post...she has a low impulse threshold at the moment...
)
jac379: What if I came at you with me axe?
(serious question)
(serious question)
I would run
A violent or threatening person is exactly that regardless of gender. If someone comes at you armed and bent on hurting you then you have to protect yourself.
Is it ok to hit a woman in order to exert masculine domination and power as is the case in most domestic disputes? no of course not.
Is it ok to hit a woman in order to exert masculine domination and power as is the case in most domestic disputes? no of course not.
chatonlyman2: I need to give you a big hug
Thank you sir, I quite needed that then.
jac379: What if I came at you with me axe?
(serious question)
(serious question)
You would meet a response equalling to the threat you pose.
It would not be a nice sight, one of us would be seriously hurt.
I do not make a distinction of hitting a man or woman or child.
One is pacifist or one is not. I'm not.
I pay some attention
Tomcats2: ill remember to duck if your throwing in an easteryly direction might mot hit your target but might hit me like one of those us cruise missiles that was aimed at Iraq and landed in Egypt
Yeah, you just watch your mouth, right?
I might throw croo-ezz missi-als, I might.
S'true.
I dohn't care where it lahnd's, see?
As long as it lahnds on furkin' England.
jac379: Yeah, you just watch your mouth, right?
I might throw croo-ezz missi-als, I might.
S'true.
I dohn't care where it lahnd's, see?
As long as it lahnds on furkin' England.
Love is in the airI might throw croo-ezz missi-als, I might.
S'true.
I dohn't care where it lahnd's, see?
As long as it lahnds on furkin' England.
jac379: Yeah, you just watch your mouth, right?
I might throw croo-ezz missi-als, I might.
S'true.
I dohn't care where it lahnd's, see?
As long as it lahnds on furkin' England.
and we are told that the welsh love usI might throw croo-ezz missi-als, I might.
S'true.
I dohn't care where it lahnd's, see?
As long as it lahnds on furkin' England.
glad i live as far east as i can get in England might be speaking welsh soon Maus19: You would meet a response equalling to the threat you pose.
It would not be a nice sight, one of us would be seriously hurt.
I do not make a distinction of hitting a man or woman or child.
One is pacifist or one is not. I'm not.
It would not be a nice sight, one of us would be seriously hurt.
I do not make a distinction of hitting a man or woman or child.
One is pacifist or one is not. I'm not.
Okay.
Kamillen Tee...?
Tomcats2: and we are told that the welsh love us glad i live as far east as i can get in England might be speaking welsh soon
I'll teach you some now.
I live in Pontyclun...now you say Pont-tee-clee-an.
That's near Llantrisant...now you say cL -
-an-triss-ant.See? Dim prrrob-lem.
janie1305: A violent or threatening person is exactly that regardless of gender. If someone comes at you armed and bent on hurting you then you have to protect yourself.
Is it ok to hit a woman in order to exert masculine domination and power as is the case in most domestic disputes? no of course not.
Is it ok to hit a woman in order to exert masculine domination and power as is the case in most domestic disputes? no of course not.
Totally agree
In defender is fine
To be a bully is neanderthal
chatonlyman2: Id deek your axe and run wayyyy faster than you (hopefully)You too jo
moi?...i don't chase. so no worries from here.
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sooo...doesn't sound like cheating to me.
this is totally different...
but if i am out and about..and see a magnificent pastry in the window on a day when i am concerned about my weight..i can admire it, but i just don't eat it and remind myself of the bigger goal.
Oooh, I do so like analogies and I particularly like this one.
So, you've committed yourself to the no points cabbage soup, but you see this magnificent pastry in the window. You've admired it, but you resist the temptation, reminding yourself of the bigger goal, go home and go back to your painting.
But, you just can't quite stop thinking about that magnificent pastry. It fills your thoughts, makes your tummy grumble, you swear you can smell it...and before you know it...you've painted the pastry in the middle of your landscape!
You hurriedly and guiltily scrape the painted pastry off the canvass and quickly repaint the landscape, all the while looking over your shoulder hoping the cabbage soup won't have noticed. Phew!
Job done, its time for bed, but you fall into a fitful sleep with your belly gnawing. You wake! You've been dreaming about the pastry! Oh god, it was soooo flaky and succulent...so sweet...
The next day you find yourself drawn to the bakers. You just have to step inside and inhale the aromas...aaaahhhh...there's no calories is sniffing, is there?
And then... and then...and then...when you think all is lost and you start reaching for your purse, you so badly want to consume this magnificent pastry with syrupy stuff and nuts...
...you're period starts and the thought of the pastry just makes you feel nauseous! Ugghh! Whatever made you think you wanted that lump of gooey cardiac arrest, for god's sake??? You've got a wild craving for cracker bread and lettuce and tomatoes and...carrots! Carrots! Carrots!
Have you still be true to your diet? Have you still been focussed on the 'WE'? Have you cheated?