serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa2,821 posts
In my opinion, people don,t change, they may realize their mistakes, but "a leopard doesn't change its spots"...If he or she has done something so bad that they get life in prison, then, yes! They must die there
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
If the question is "Should a Changed man die in prison for one mistake?
in my opinion...some times the change is too little too late... and why is it considered "one mistake"? I am taking a leap by reading between the lines here and thinking that if one is to die in prison - the sentence is a life sentence or the person is old or the sentence is a death sentence... and Usually taking someone's life is not one mistake - it is a willful act and must be addressed as such. There are laws and consequences and life is not fair.
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
Hell yeah Premeditated murder is a well thought out execution of another human being. in the same way that life has been taken, one must pay by all their rights and freedom been taken away from them and it also sets an example to others which might be planning the same.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
AgentAjax: Hell yeah Premeditated murder is a well thought out execution of another human being. in the same way that life has been taken, one must pay by all their rights and freedom been taken away from them and it also sets an example to others which might be planning the same.
Plenty of people smoke, regularly drink to excess, regularly eat unhealthy foods to excess, partake in dangerous sports, do all sorts of things that may in the future endanger their lives, or lead to a loss of independence and liberty, but knowing this does not stop them. We feel its not going to happen to us.
Why should imprisonment, or potential execution be any different?
I think it might have more of an effect upon 'law abiding' citizens than those who commit the type of crimes that will land them a life-sentence, or one of execution.
If someone is planning murder, how likely is it they'll suddenly think, "Oh golly, I might get into loads of trouble for this. Best put the kettle on and have a nice calming chamomile tea instead."
jac379: Plenty of people smoke, regularly drink to excess, regularly eat unhealthy foods to excess, partake in dangerous sports, do all sorts of things that may in the future endanger their lives, or lead to a loss of independence and liberty, but knowing this does not stop them. We feel its not going to happen to us.
Why should imprisonment, or potential execution be any different?
I think it might have more of an effect upon 'law abiding' citizens than those who commit the type of crimes that will land them a life-sentence, or one of execution.
If someone is planning murder, how likely is it they'll suddenly think, "Oh golly, I might get into loads of trouble for this. Best put the kettle on and have a nice calming chamomile tea instead."
What has that got to do with intentionally casing death to another ?
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
Really?
I find it a very odd question. If a person is in prison for life then they have committed a crime warranting that sentence, (ok miscarriages of justice aside) if they are sorry and have changed, well good for them but that doesnt change the reason they are there in the first place.
We all know evil and good! If you choose to do evil you will pay for the price of it. Everyday I make mistakes but my mistakes only effect me, mostly! When my mistakes effect others, good or bad I will have to pay the price.
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
I would like to know what the crime committed was but I don't know if that would change my mind anyways.
Chances are pretty good that this person probably has broken the law more than once and if he/she was caught and has a rap sheet, well he/she had not learned their lesson the first time they broke the law.
Laws were made for a reason and they are to be enforced.
serena123: In my opinion, people don,t change, they may realize their mistakes, but "a leopard doesn't change its spots"...If he or she has done something so bad that they get life in prison, then, yes! They must die there
buddylove23: should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake? its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
Are you going to come back and talk to us? Seems there are a lot of unanswered questions. Why should other people think about these things? Are you in danger of losing your life in jail? or do you have a friend that is in Jail for the wrong reasons? I have went to memorials for friends of mine that died in jail. If you are not in jail then stay out. That's my best advice/ so far.
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: We all know evil and good! If you choose to do evil you will pay for the price of it. Everyday I make mistakes but my mistakes only effect me, mostly! When my mistakes effect others, good or bad I will have to pay the price.
Evil and good are moralistic terms. Do you think the head hunting tribes of the Pacific rim believed it was 'evil' to kill, eat and display trophies of their dead? Do you think the, what we would describe as horrific, sacrifices of the Aztec's were considered evil by the Aztecs? Morals are societies way of controlling behavior and change with societies requirements. There is no 'fate' and breaking societies rules does not mean you have to pay a 'price'. If this was true why aren't bankers across the world dropping like flies?
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
AgentAjax: So what are you saying? A person who has killed another human being intentionally should not serve life?
Okay, we obviously have a communication problem.
If you can extrapolate the above from what I've said, and this is the second time you've not been able to extract the relevant information from my posts, further discussion is likely to be less than enjoyable, or fruitful between us.
jac379: Okay, we obviously have a communication problem.
If you can extrapolate the above from what I've said, and this is the second time you've not been able to extract the relevant information from my posts, further discussion is likely to be less than enjoyable, or fruitful between us.
A feisty woman? Honestly I think the law is preventative measure that stops high percentage of potentials murders as well as the availability of psychological support via phone and online.
But seriously how can you argue that a murderer does not deserve life imprisonment or even death?
Iuchi_Zien: There is no 'fate' and breaking societies rules does not mean you have to pay a 'price'. If this was true why aren't bankers across the world dropping like flies?
Now there's a mature and responsible attitude that will secure civlisation for generations to come.
It's not that anti-civilisational actions don't have consequences, it's just that people in power can shirk these consequences and make someone else pay for them.
"my life, my choice - someone else's responsibility!" Is the ethic of the banker(even if it does sound more like a Feminist motto).
For me it would depend on what the mistake was. We can all be sorry for our mistakes but should we be forgiven for them is a good question. If you're talking about a person who is given a life sentence in prison or given the death penalty because he took the life of another then NO he should not be forgiven. Killing someone isn't a mistake it's a crime. People should have to pay for ending the life of another human being.
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
People are not generally incarcerated for a "mistake" and while I think that sometimes people can change over time, it wouldn't minimize the crime that they committed and as such, if the sentence was just, then it should stand.
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
Anyone who is dangerous to society/people should remain locked up. Especially so if they had physically harmed or even caused someone's death (voluntarily).
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