should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake? ( Archived) (32)

May 4, 2013 3:17 PM CSTshould a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
buddylove23
buddylove23buddylove23gt, Demerara-Mahaica, Guyana1 Threads 1 Polls

should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?(Vote Below)

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its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
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May 4, 2013 3:26 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
In my opinion, people don,t change, they may realize their mistakes, but "a leopard doesn't change its spots"...If he or she has done something so bad that they get life in prison, then, yes! They must die there
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May 4, 2013 3:30 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too


If the question is "Should a Changed man die in prison for one mistake?

in my opinion...some times the change is too little too late... and why is it considered "one mistake"? I am taking a leap by reading between the lines here and thinking that if one is to die in prison - the sentence is a life sentence or the person is old or the sentence is a death sentence... and
Usually taking someone's life is not one mistake - it is a willful act and must be addressed as such. There are laws and consequences and life is not fair.
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May 4, 2013 3:34 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
When you say 'die in prison' do you mean for a life sentence, or execution.

Not that I agree that either is ethical, but surely it would depend upon the 'mistake' and the changes in that person?

I think everyone has the right to change.
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May 4, 2013 3:45 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
Hell yeah
Premeditated murder is a well thought out execution of another human being. in the same way that life has been taken, one must pay by all their rights and freedom been taken away from them and it also sets an example to others which might be planning the same.
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May 4, 2013 3:59 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: Hell yeah
Premeditated murder is a well thought out execution of another human being. in the same way that life has been taken, one must pay by all their rights and freedom been taken away from them and it also sets an example to others which might be planning the same.

Plenty of people smoke, regularly drink to excess, regularly eat unhealthy foods to excess, partake in dangerous sports, do all sorts of things that may in the future endanger their lives, or lead to a loss of independence and liberty, but knowing this does not stop them. We feel its not going to happen to us.

Why should imprisonment, or potential execution be any different?

I think it might have more of an effect upon 'law abiding' citizens than those who commit the type of crimes that will land them a life-sentence, or one of execution.

If someone is planning murder, how likely is it they'll suddenly think, "Oh golly, I might get into loads of trouble for this. Best put the kettle on and have a nice calming chamomile tea instead."
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May 4, 2013 4:02 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
It's unanswerable without knowing what the "mistake" is.
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May 4, 2013 4:10 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
jac379: Plenty of people smoke, regularly drink to excess, regularly eat unhealthy foods to excess, partake in dangerous sports, do all sorts of things that may in the future endanger their lives, or lead to a loss of independence and liberty, but knowing this does not stop them. We feel its not going to happen to us.

Why should imprisonment, or potential execution be any different?

I think it might have more of an effect upon 'law abiding' citizens than those who commit the type of crimes that will land them a life-sentence, or one of execution.

If someone is planning murder, how likely is it they'll suddenly think, "Oh golly, I might get into loads of trouble for this. Best put the kettle on and have a nice calming chamomile tea instead."


What has that got to do with intentionally casing death to another ? confused
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May 4, 2013 4:13 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: What has that got to do with intentionally casing death to another ?

You said the punishment acts as a deterrent.

I said it might not and explained why I think it might not.
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May 4, 2013 4:28 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
jac379: You said the punishment acts as a deterrent.

I said it might not and explained why I think it might not.


I said it sets an example. Of course that wont stop everyone but they can be assured when they get caught their life behind bars will be their fait. wine
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May 4, 2013 4:30 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
It would all depend on what the crime was that that person committed.
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May 4, 2013 4:55 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too


Given any and all possibilities or circumstances, I answer with an unequivocal YES!
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May 4, 2013 5:45 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too



Really?

I find it a very odd question. If a person is in prison for life then they have committed a crime warranting that sentence, (ok miscarriages of justice aside) if they are sorry and have changed, well good for them but that doesnt change the reason they are there in the first place.
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May 4, 2013 9:18 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Jillll
JillllJillllRancho Cucamonga, California USA3 Threads 1 Polls 1,390 Posts
We all need to accept the consequences of our mistakes.
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May 4, 2013 9:56 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
We all know evil and good! If you choose to do evil you will pay for the price of it.
Everyday I make mistakes but my mistakes only effect me, mostly!
When my mistakes effect others, good or bad I will have to pay the price.


buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
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May 4, 2013 10:26 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
lalasierra
lalasierralalasierralos angeles, California USA147 Threads 67 Polls 935 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too


I would like to know what the crime committed was but I don't know if that would change my mind anyways.

Chances are pretty good that this person probably has broken the law more than once and if he/she was caught and has a rap sheet, well he/she had not learned their lesson the first time they broke the law.

Laws were made for a reason and they are to be enforced.
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May 4, 2013 11:34 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
michael63ca
michael63camichael63caVancouver, Alberta Canada50 Threads 2 Polls 784 Posts
serena123: In my opinion, people don,t change, they may realize their mistakes, but "a leopard doesn't change its spots"...If he or she has done something so bad that they get life in prison, then, yes! They must die there


I agree! do the crime do the time!
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May 4, 2013 11:45 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
buddylove23: should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake? its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too



Are you going to come back and talk to us? Seems there are a lot of unanswered questions. Why should other people think about these things? Are you in danger of losing your life in jail? or do you have a friend that is in Jail for the wrong reasons? I have went to memorials for friends of mine that died in jail. If you are not in jail then stay out.
That's my best advice/ so far.
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May 5, 2013 2:58 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: We all know evil and good! If you choose to do evil you will pay for the price of it.
Everyday I make mistakes but my mistakes only effect me, mostly!
When my mistakes effect others, good or bad I will have to pay the price.


Evil and good are moralistic terms. Do you think the head hunting tribes of the Pacific rim believed it was 'evil' to kill, eat and display trophies of their dead? Do you think the, what we would describe as horrific, sacrifices of the Aztec's were considered evil by the Aztecs? Morals are societies way of controlling behavior and change with societies requirements. There is no 'fate' and breaking societies rules does not mean you have to pay a 'price'. If this was true why aren't bankers across the world dropping like flies?
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May 5, 2013 3:11 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Does the law states you going to prison,ONLY the second time for the same offence?????grin grin
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May 5, 2013 3:50 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
AgentAjax: So what are you saying? A person who has killed another human being intentionally should not serve life?

Okay, we obviously have a communication problem.

If you can extrapolate the above from what I've said, and this is the second time you've not been able to extract the relevant information from my posts, further discussion is likely to be less than enjoyable, or fruitful between us.

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May 6, 2013 4:10 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
jac379: Okay, we obviously have a communication problem.

If you can extrapolate the above from what I've said, and this is the second time you've not been able to extract the relevant information from my posts, further discussion is likely to be less than enjoyable, or fruitful between us.


A feisty woman?laugh Honestly I think the law is preventative measure that stops high percentage of potentials murders as well as the availability of psychological support via phone and online.

But seriously how can you argue that a murderer does not deserve life imprisonment or even death? dunno
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May 6, 2013 8:21 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: There is no 'fate' and breaking societies rules does not mean you have to pay a 'price'. If this was true why aren't bankers across the world dropping like flies?


Now there's a mature and responsible attitude that will secure civlisation for generations to come.

It's not that anti-civilisational actions don't have consequences, it's just that people in power can shirk these consequences and make someone else pay for them.

"my life, my choice - someone else's responsibility!" Is the ethic of the banker(even if it does sound more like a Feminist motto).
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May 12, 2013 6:47 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Papermate
PapermatePapermatelos angeles, California USA3 Threads 92 Posts
The realization comes too late. You are bound by the laws of man and breaking it meant paying the price. God will be your judge after.
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May 12, 2013 6:53 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
MarieLeveau
MarieLeveauMarieLeveauSt. John's, Newfoundland Canada103 Posts
For me it would depend on what the mistake was. We can all be sorry for our mistakes but should we be forgiven for them is a good question. If you're talking about a person who is given a life sentence in prison or given the death penalty because he took the life of another then NO he should not be forgiven. Killing someone isn't a mistake it's a crime. People should have to pay for ending the life of another human being.
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May 12, 2013 12:20 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Kinda depends on the "mistake" eh...conversing
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May 12, 2013 12:26 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
venusenvy: Kinda depends on the "mistake" eh...


laugh For example, digging a tunnel to rob a safe-deposit box of a bank, "by mistake".
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May 12, 2013 7:28 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too


This a bit broad, isn't it? A bit vague and not the least bit specific.....

Depends on many factors. The circumstances, impulsive or pre-meditated, what the 'mistake' is, quality of representation.... etc etc

Not least, whether he is guilty or not, surely??

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May 13, 2013 10:48 PM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too
People are not generally incarcerated for a "mistake" and while I think that sometimes people can change over time, it wouldn't minimize the crime that they committed and as such, if the sentence was just, then it should stand.
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May 18, 2013 1:32 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
Suicide_Mission
Suicide_MissionSuicide_MissionBrisbane, Queensland Australia124 Posts
what's a "change man"? a cross-dresser?
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May 18, 2013 1:44 AM CST should a change man die in a prison cell for one mistake?
twinself
twinselftwinself..., Majjistral Malta36 Threads 1,347 Posts
buddylove23: its a question i ask myself alot? and everybody should too


Anyone who is dangerous to society/people should remain locked up. Especially so if they had physically harmed or even caused someone's death (voluntarily).

The deceased never get a second chance.
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