Jul 14, 2013 12:04 AM CST Is it a valid argument from a Vegetarian .........
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 posts
Iuchi_Zien: Exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about. So birds and fish aren't animals are they? I suppose you're quite happy to eat squid as well are you? Would you be so happy to eat squid if you were aware that some cephalopods (squids and their relatives) are actually more intelligent than your average dog? Of course you would never eat (or kill) dog for meat would you? I bet you only eat line caught fish as well? After all we wouldn't want to harm any of those cuddly dolphins would we? So let's forget about the suffering of the fish with a hook jammed in their mouth, left defenceless and terrified, yes fish do feel fear and also do suffer from stress, before being dragged onto the deck of a boat and, eventually, being bludgeoned to death. But, hey, as you point out you don't have anything to do with killing animals do you?
What she saying is that,her reasons for not eating it had nothing to do with the killing aspect,just that she didn't like it,you've somewhat misinterpreted the post.
whistlinwheel: What she saying is that,her reasons for not eating it had nothing to do with the killing aspect,just that she didn't like it,you've somewhat misinterpreted the post.
MrRick77: Is it a valid argument from a Vegetarian when they say they don't eat meat because it was once living ?
Validation? All things LIVE! Does not air spread its breath to allow you and all to live. Does not the earth need water to produce. Simplistic view of course.
Deduce as you wish.
I eat animal flesh at rare times yet I do. A choice once again for all. Yet no argument is needed.
It would never separate me or my family for gatherings, lol
What I wanted to say in previous my comment above there's no point to be vegetarian or vegan. Either animal or either plant both are intelligent and both lives in both events human in order to eat has to terminate someone and to make from it food, human can't live from energy of sun. So it's why it's pointless and has no validation
whistlinwheel: What she saying is that,her reasons for not eating it had nothing to do with the killing aspect,just that she didn't like it,you've somewhat misinterpreted the post.
No I don't think I have misunderstood what she has said. She said she had nothing to do with killing animals.
In response to: I love my veggies as for red meat I don't eat it don't like it never had nothing to do with killing animals for meat I eat fish and chicken, no offence but you do taste nice.
Aren't fish and poultry animals? How does she think the fish and chicken arrives at her plate? Matter replicators? I would have said the comment, highlighted in red, was fairly clear but then, I don't speak Australian
Iuchi_Zien: No I don't think I have misunderstood what she has said. She said she had nothing to do with killing animals. Aren't fish and poultry animals? How does she think the fish and chicken arrives at her plate? Matter replicators? I would have said the comment, highlighted in red, was fairly clear but then, I don't speak Australian
She meant HER DECISION not to eat meat had nothing to do with the killing of animals ay ay ay
_R_J_: What I wanted to say in previous my comment above there's no point to be vegetarian or vegan. Either animal or either plant both are intelligent and both lives in both events human in order to eat has to terminate someone and to make from it food, human can't live from energy of sun. So it's why it's pointless and has no validation
Um thanks professor
Some of us make a choice to be vegetarian because the diet suits us
I don't communicate with my meals I just eat the damn things
Some of us make a choice to be vegetarian because the diet suits us
I don't communicate with my meals I just eat the damn things
I am not vegetarian however I have noticed that when I eat less meat, my "insides" tend to feel better and I am more regular. I can perfectly understand why people choose to be vegetarian.
serene56: She meant HER DECISION not to eat meat had nothing to do with the killing of animals ay ay ay
Did she really? I'll bow to your telepathic understanding of what she meant.. Unfortunately, not being gifted with telepathy, as you are, I have to work on WHAT SHE SAID.
Iuchi_Zien: Did she really? I'll bow to your telepathic understanding of what she meant.. Unfortunately, not being gifted with telepathy, as you are, I have to work on WHAT SHE SAID.
Those two not telepathic Itchy , they eat at the same table now and again when they are not drinking at it or dancing on it . Miss Curls those supermarket chickens are full of bugs and chemicals . Better to eat a chook you know , or one that you know what its eaten .
If you really need to lose some weight you only what need to do is to eat smaller ammount (5 spoons per meal scientists says are healthy and not fattening), but some vegetarians or vegans are yelling all over that they does not eats meat because they saving something, BUT by not terminating animals, they still terminates plants. So it's equal termination, then what's the point of it? Only one way to terminate less lives is to eat less, of course if you eat not at all then too bad for you . Thus after all this vegetarism/veganism is not a savior, eating less is, so vegetarism/veganism still has no point. You can eat healthy eating meat, your organism needs meat and you can become unhealthy not eating meat. So done nature and no body can overdo it
curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia5,450 posts
Iuchi_Zien: Exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about. So birds and fish aren't animals are they? I suppose you're quite happy to eat squid as well are you? Would you be so happy to eat squid if you were aware that some cephalopods (squids and their relatives) are actually more intelligent than your average dog? Of course you would never eat (or kill) dog for meat would you? I bet you only eat line caught fish as well? After all we wouldn't want to harm any of those cuddly dolphins would we? So let's forget about the suffering of the fish with a hook jammed in their mouth, left defenceless and terrified, yes fish do feel fear and also do suffer from stress, before being dragged onto the deck of a boat and, eventually, being bludgeoned to death. But, hey, as you point out you don't have anything to do with killing animals do you?
You have totally twisted what "I said I haven't eaten red meat for 35 years or so and not because I am against killing animals" I just don't like the taste of red meat! or the smell of it being cooked! As for food including chicken and fish and other sea foods I do eat them I am not vegie either I just love vegies lots of them and I would never eat dolphins they are a protected species here in Australia as are Whales. What's your problem
curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia5,450 posts
whistlinwheel: What she saying is that,her reasons for not eating it had nothing to do with the killing aspect,just that she didn't like it,you've somewhat misinterpreted the post.
curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia5,450 posts
epirb: Those two not telepathic Itchy , they eat at the same table now and again when they are not drinking at it or dancing on it . Miss Curls those supermarket chickens are full of bugs and chemicals . Better to eat a chook you know , or one that you know what its eaten .
Evening Mr Epirb I always buy my chicken at the local butchers free range way home grown and same with my fish love my local W.A snapper and Barramundi yum
curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia5,450 posts
_R_J_: What I wanted to say in previous my comment above there's no point to be vegetarian or vegan. Either animal or either plant both are intelligent and both lives in both events human in order to eat has to terminate someone and to make from it food, human can't live from energy of sun. So it's why it's pointless and has no validation
Plants are a living thing too point taken and they breathe and a lot of them are are edible and very good for us all part of our Universe
Iuchi_Zien: Exactly the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about. So birds and fish aren't animals are they? I suppose you're quite happy to eat squid as well are you? Would you be so happy to eat squid if you were aware that some cephalopods (squids and their relatives) are actually more intelligent than your average dog? Of course you would never eat (or kill) dog for meat would you? I bet you only eat line caught fish as well? After all we wouldn't want to harm any of those cuddly dolphins would we? So let's forget about the suffering of the fish with a hook jammed in their mouth, left defenceless and terrified, yes fish do feel fear and also do suffer from stress, before being dragged onto the deck of a boat and, eventually, being bludgeoned to death. But, hey, as you point out you don't have anything to do with killing animals do you?
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I don't line fish; I hate catching a fish that is so small, I have to set it free, with a hook ripped out of it's mouth, and watch it die slowly as it sinks.
I spear fish, and cast net; I eat everything I kill.... even the pig I killed with 5 rocks... it was pumped full of adrenilan, and I could see the death blow with every bite: but I killed it, so I ate it. The last thing i hunted was a goat, with a knife... the goat was my size, it wasn't like shooting it.
I believe that everybody who eats meat should hunt, at least once, so they can see meat doesn't come in a yellow wrapper, and consider what they have done.
i have never hunted, without considering not eating meat anymore.... but, what about the vegetables? they meditate until an animal comes, and kills them... I see the life in all things, and give thanks for everything I eat.
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So birds and fish aren't animals are they? I suppose you're quite happy to eat squid as well are you? Would you be so happy to eat squid if you were aware that some cephalopods (squids and their relatives) are actually more intelligent than your average dog? Of course you would never eat (or kill) dog for meat would you? I bet you only eat line caught fish as well? After all we wouldn't want to harm any of those cuddly dolphins would we? So let's forget about the suffering of the fish with a hook jammed in their mouth, left defenceless and terrified, yes fish do feel fear and also do suffer from stress, before being dragged onto the deck of a boat and, eventually, being bludgeoned to death. But, hey, as you point out you don't have anything to do with killing animals do you?
What she saying is that,her reasons for not eating it had nothing to do with the killing aspect,just that she didn't like it,you've somewhat misinterpreted the post.