Would Hillary Clinton make a great President (611)

Jan 16, 2016 5:51 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Jan 17, 2016 6:46 AM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
#422 I believe that Hillary Clinton will never face any prison time for any wrongdoing in public office because she will be pardoned by the present president of these United States of America just before he leaves office.
Jan 17, 2016 6:51 AM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
galrads: #422 I believe that Hillary Clinton will never face any prison time for any wrongdoing in public office because she will be pardoned by the present president of these United States of America just before he leaves office.


Galrads, cn you pop over to the Republican debate thread around #46 and weigh in? I think with your environmental background you could provide some clarity on things (I am admittedly not up to speed)
Jan 17, 2016 8:05 AM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: Galrads, cn you pop over to the Republican debate thread around #46 and weigh in? I think with your environmental background you could provide some clarity on things (I am admittedly not up to speed)


TY bouquet
Jan 19, 2016 9:07 AM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
# 412


rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 19, 2016 3:43 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Pretty damaging day for Hillary. I think she is screwed
Jan 19, 2016 3:49 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).

That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.

“To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element. These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels,” said the IG letter to lawmakers with oversight of the intelligence community and State Department. “According to the declarant, these documents contain information derived from classified IC element sources.”

“There is absolutely no way that one could not recognize SAP material,” a former senior law enforcement with decades of experience investigating violations of SAP procedures told Fox News. “It is the most sensitive of the sensitive.”
Jan 19, 2016 3:50 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Jan 19, 2016 3:51 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Sigh... and for those deniers who will complain that this couldn't be true since it's Fox news...

Here it is again from The Hill
Jan 19, 2016 3:55 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Meanwhile, Obama loses another court challenge regarding Fast and Furious and gets his executive over reach pinched:

Jan 19, 2016 3:55 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
Is there ANY election process on this PLANET that takes longer than the USA?
Jan 19, 2016 4:00 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
Da_Moose: Is there ANY election process on this PLANET that takes longer than the USA?


Don't think so Moose...we're all going to be subjected to this until next year and maybe beyond. help
Jan 19, 2016 4:02 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Isn't it great to have choices and lively debates? tongue At least one party has great diversity, while the other??? Eh. You get what they tell you you'll get and you better like it.laugh
Jan 19, 2016 4:06 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
2intrigued: Don't think so Moose...we're all going to be subjected to this until next year and maybe beyond.


Sigh....
Jan 19, 2016 4:07 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
WhatUwish4: Isn't it great to have choices and lively debates? At least one party has great diversity, while the other??? Eh. You get what they tell you you'll get and you better like it.


No...it actually gets boring watching such indecisiveness. PICK a leader already!
Jan 19, 2016 4:12 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Da_Moose: No...it actually gets boring watching such indecisiveness. PICK a leader already!


Not my job. sigh
Jan 19, 2016 4:19 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
WhatUwish4: Not my job.


okay...now I get it...it isn't up to the people....gotcha!wink
Jan 19, 2016 4:49 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Da_Moose: okay...now I get it...it isn't up to the people....gotcha!


No. I am just one voice in many.. It's not up to me to pick the winner.
Jan 19, 2016 4:59 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4: No. I am just one voice in many.. It's not up to me to pick the winner.
..I will win.....because the whole world loves me.......professor snooty snooty
Jan 19, 2016 5:49 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
truheart1941: ..I will win.....because the whole world loves me.......


Therein lies the problem. Unless you live on Mars. grin
Jan 19, 2016 6:01 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
agman: Therein lies the problem. Unless you live on Mars.
nothing wrong living /eating a mars bar..?????..jimmy carter loved peanuts......he made president...professor so there...tongue grin
Jan 19, 2016 6:17 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
truheart1941: nothing wrong living /eating a mars bar..?????..jimmy carter loved peanuts......he made (a very bad) president... so there...
Jan 19, 2016 6:41 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
.......@whatu wish4....are you still voting for me.....??????grin
Jan 19, 2016 6:48 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
truheart1941: .......@whatu wish4....are you still voting for me.....??????


Still thinking about it. Now that's you've insulted my Valentine face, you'll have to make it up to me somehow. mumbling
Jan 19, 2016 6:56 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
HIllary did not just have secret stuff on her server. She had super secret stuff on it. The Federal gov't has different level of secrecy.

Hillary had some files from the very highest level of top secret that that government seems to have.

I think that she is sunk. If Obama's DOJ does not file a criminal lawsuit on her, then it is black marks Obama's legacy. Considering how...Petreaus was treated. Now DoD is considering reducing his rank. because of his security breach. Considering how Manning was indicted, court-martialed and prisoned. Considering how bad they want Snowden so badly for treason.....all of these were security breaches.

Allowing Hillary to get away with a major security breach...with a wrist slap or less?? Means Obama administration is totally bias. Historians will have to record it. Down the drain goes Obama's legacy.

Hillary knows it. In the last DNC debate she totally embraced Obama presidency. He could do nothing wrong to her. Cruz said it, Christie said it. So she will be a third term Obama if elected.doh

Personally I don't think that wins her the Presidency. Obama's approval are at 42% today. That is a very weak 42%. Obama's coalition building to defeat ISIS and alQeada has virtually petered into you do your thing and we will do our thing. And everyone will let the Russian do their thing. There is no central command or leadership in the counter terrorist operations today.

Obama handling of Iran.....well....sank with the capture of the disabled Riverine boats. When the 10 sailors were forced to take knelling position while under Iranian guns. It killed the WH argument that a new day had spawned between Iran and the US with the Nuc deal.
Kerry, Clinton and Obama can spin it anyway that they want to. But the video released by Iran says a lot more. There is no happy face when ou are knelling under a AK-47. It remined the country of the embassy take over.

Everytime alQeada or ISIS strikes in a foreign country or here in the US. Hillary catches some of the flash burns from thier weapons and explosives. The way it is going.....by the fall election.....Hillary is going to charded to a crisp by the violent acts of ISIS and alQeada. The only one that can keep her from being so charded....is one Barack Obama that leads from the back and who has taught her to lead from the back as well.

The country wants a change in course and a change in leadership.....and Hillary is offering the samo samo and has been a political insider since the diansors roamed the planet.
Jan 19, 2016 7:03 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hey ttom

Did you see Obama also lost his Fast and Furious executive order case and has to unseal the records he sealed? That should be interesting. I wonder if Eric Holder ever finished investigating himself. doh
Jan 19, 2016 7:49 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
erica withholder is as crooked as they come, he ran the morrow building OKC bombing, as history shows us he's capable of doin this type of thing since he was involved in an armed invasion of an ROTC recruiting office in his college days, and nothin happened to him.

he had his own law firm defending the laundromat banks Before he was
givin the nod by the booohooo administration to be attorney general; and guess what.,,, drum roll,,,,,,,,,,yep,,, he's back workin for the laundromat banks at his law firm.
Jan 19, 2016 7:53 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
crayons: erica withholder is as crooked as they come, he ran the morrow building OKC bombing, as history shows us he's capable of doin this type of thing since he was involved in an armed invasion of an ROTC recruiting office in his college days, and nothin happened to him.

he had his own law firm defending the laundromat banks Before he was
givin the nod by the booohooo administration to be attorney general; and guess what.,,, drum roll,,,,,,,,,,yep,,, he's back workin for the laundromat banks at his law firm.


Oh yeah. I remember the armed takeover of the JROTC building..forgot about the lawyer stuff. Those Chicago thugs are as thick as thieves
Jan 19, 2016 8:00 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
we all know this stuff in TX due to police who came forward with evidence were murdered, several murdered after being interviewed.

Holder was responsible for 168 deaths in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing…and more


Leaked Memos Reveal Holder’s Involvement In OKC Murder Cover-Up


Jan 19, 2016 10:28 PM CST Would Hillary Clinton make a great President
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
WhatUwish4: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).

That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.

“To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element. These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels,” said the IG letter to lawmakers with oversight of the intelligence community and State Department. “According to the declarant, these documents contain information derived from classified IC element sources.”

“There is absolutely no way that one could not recognize SAP material,” a former senior law enforcement with decades of experience investigating violations of SAP procedures told Fox News. “It is the most sensitive of the sensitive.”




In a statement, Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said, "This is the same interagency dispute that has been playing out for months, and it does not change the fact that these emails were not classified at the time they were sent or received. It is alarming that the intelligence community IG, working with Republicans in Congress, continues to selectively leak materials in order to resurface the same allegations and try to hurt Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.


Clinton's campaign and the State Department have denied that any information was handled improperly, saying that the information and emails in question were all retroactively classified.

State also has noted that the same information can come from multiple sources, not all of which are classified.
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