Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair? ( Archived) (48)

Dec 21, 2015 3:17 AM CSTAre Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
pinkdiamond3
pinkdiamond3pinkdiamond3In your heart, Florida, USA28 Threads 28 Polls 71 Posts

Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?(Vote Below)

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Yes..Deportation will hurt/ separate families
13
18%
No..I think its long over due
20
27%
Yes.. lots of Mexicans are tax payers too
5
7%
No.. Its costing The U.S Billions we cant afford
4
5%
Yes..This wall idea is reminiscent of Berlin! Evil
12
16%
No..I support Donald Trumps plans completely
20
27%
Total Votes
74
Is Donald Trump being unfair to Mexican Immigrants?
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Dec 21, 2015 7:47 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
The US and Donald Trump is not the only one to place a wall and border obstacles along a border. Iran has a extensive border obstacles along its Afghanistan border. A Baltic country just announced it was placing border walls up along its Russian border. Israel has walls with the west bank and Golan Heights.

So? It is not illegal for a government to take these steps. What is unfair...is the illegal crossing of millions unregistered and undocumented illegal aliens into the country. For a number of reasons they come into the country. Some of those are criminal. Some are not.
But unless the authorities can question them and vet them......we (the people of the US) don't know who they are.

Building a border wall will force aliens to pass thru check points for entry in the country. I for one am 100% for it.
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Dec 21, 2015 7:53 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
jlvlv
jlvlvjlvlvLas Vegas, Nevada USA33 Posts
The wall would not just keep illegals from Mexico out....it would also keep out anyone from any other country trying to get in illegally via Mexico.
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Dec 21, 2015 8:05 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
TTom50: The US and Donald Trump is not the only one to place a wall and border obstacles along a border. Iran has a extensive border obstacles along its Afghanistan border. A Baltic country just announced it was placing border walls up along its Russian border. Israel has walls with the west bank and Golan Heights.

So? It is not illegal for a government to take these steps. What is unfair...is the illegal crossing of millions unregistered and undocumented illegal aliens into the country. For a number of reasons they come into the country. Some of those are criminal. Some are not.
But unless the authorities can question them and vet them......we (the people of the US) don't know who they are.

Building a border wall will force aliens to pass thru check points for entry in the country. I for one am 100% for it.
Although I have never supported separations of any kind,I like the way u explain this.Its very necessary to enter any country where u can be questioned and vet.The world is now full of criminals floating around.
If only Trump's explanations is as easily to understand as yours.
Will be a good idea if he can employ u to explain things properly,instead of just portraying himself as he now is doing.
Happy Xmas
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Dec 21, 2015 8:06 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
TTom50: The US and Donald Trump is not the only one to place a wall and border obstacles along a border. Iran has a extensive border obstacles along its Afghanistan border. A Baltic country just announced it was placing border walls up along its Russian border. Israel has walls with the west bank and Golan Heights.

So? It is not illegal for a government to take these steps. What is unfair...is the illegal crossing of millions unregistered and undocumented illegal aliens into the country. For a number of reasons they come into the country. Some of those are criminal. Some are not.
But unless the authorities can question them and vet them......we (the people of the US) don't know who they are.

Building a border wall will force aliens to pass thru check points for entry in the country. I for one am 100% for it.
Although I have never supported separations of any kind,I like the way u explain this.Its very necessary to enter any country where u can be questioned and vet.The world is now full of criminals floating around.
If only Trump's explanations is as easily to understand as yours.
Will be a good idea if he can employ u to explain things properly,instead of just portraying himself as he now is doing.
Happy Xmas
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Dec 21, 2015 8:47 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
TTom50: The US and Donald Trump is not the only one to place a wall and border obstacles along a border. Iran has a extensive border obstacles along its Afghanistan border. A Baltic country just announced it was placing border walls up along its Russian border. Israel has walls with the west bank and Golan Heights.

So? It is not illegal for a government to take these steps. What is unfair...is the illegal crossing of millions unregistered and undocumented illegal aliens into the country. For a number of reasons they come into the country. Some of those are criminal. Some are not.
But unless the authorities can question them and vet them......we (the people of the US) don't know who they are.

Building a border wall will force aliens to pass thru check points for entry in the country. I for one am 100% for it.


popcorn

I'm 1000% for making CONgress do it's job and close loopholes. There are no good reasons for ignorance of blatant social media posts and assault weapon purchases.. doh
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Dec 21, 2015 9:13 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Phyllis Schlafly, an icon of the conservative movement who has been active for half a century, is warning the nation: Donald Trump is the last hope for America.



Schlafly unloaded on Republicans in Congress for passing the $1.1 trillion omnibus bill last week, a move she called a “betrayal.”


Read more at
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Dec 21, 2015 9:18 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
Christianlatin
ChristianlatinChristianlatinTORREON, Coahuila Mexico19 Threads 148 Posts
Yes...it happened back when they Europeans came to our American continent!! because if you see it, nativeamericans are not really light skin. And who stopped them? who built a wall to kick them out? Did they come here LEGALLY? from their ancestors many have stayed in this continent when their background is European...time to send those ILLEGALS back to where they belong?
Don´t throw stones to your neighbor´s windows if you´re windows are glass says the aphorism!
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Dec 21, 2015 9:18 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
stringman: Phyllis Schlafly, an icon of the conservative movement who has been active for half a century, is warning the nation: Donald Trump is the last hope for America.
Schlafly unloaded on Republicans in Congress for passing the $1.1 trillion omnibus bill last week, a move she called a “betrayal.”Read more at
howdy,nailed it string,putin warned trump of plot 2 kill him!
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Dec 21, 2015 9:22 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
reb56: howdy,nailed it string,putin warned trump of plot 2 kill him!


hi REB the big money running the country are afraid of him. he does not need their money.
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Dec 21, 2015 9:34 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Dec 21, 2015 10:56 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
String that is a very good link. Phyllis Schafly.

How can you ask a stupid question, how can it be unfair? Illegal is fair?
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Dec 21, 2015 4:16 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
trumpy has tapped into what we have been feelin for years, they promised us that fence back in 05, congress passed it, the money was appropriated and than i guess they all went out fer dinner and drinks.

it's really the big money from rockefeller aligned corporations flowing to the US chamber of horrors/commerce that keeps the borders open,,and it suits the oligarchy/repos and demos to create more chaos for a larger police state,big goobermint,surveillance state, ultimately moving the train faster toward a cashless society.

Globalists have to have drug dealing/violence/terror attacks and money laundering on a large scale to nudge the public into their luciferian corntrolled cashless society.

so unless they give trumpy the grassy knoll treatment i'll be votin fer him...
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Dec 21, 2015 4:24 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
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Dec 21, 2015 4:50 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
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crayons: trumpy has tapped into what we have been feelin for years, they promised us that fence back in 05, congress passed it, the money was appropriated and than i guess they all went out fer dinner and drinks.

it's really the big money from rockefeller aligned corporations flowing to the US chamber of horrors/commerce that keeps the borders open,,and it suits the oligarchy/repos and demos to create more chaos for a larger police state,big goobermint,surveillance state, ultimately moving the train faster toward a cashless society.

Globalists have to have drug dealing/violence/terror attacks and money laundering on a large scale to nudge the public into their luciferian corntrolled cashless society.

so unless they give trumpy the grassy knoll treatment i'll be votin fer him...
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Dec 21, 2015 5:17 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
pinkdiamond3: Is Donald Trump being unfair to Mexican Immigrants?

he wants to draw a line.
This land needs to be protected by all nations, just like any other Holy Land.
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Dec 21, 2015 7:39 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
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Dec 29, 2015 10:39 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
mcradloff
mcradloffmcradloffPlatteville, Wisconsin USA36 Threads 36 Polls 36 Posts
Give those cockroaches the same treatment we would get if we went into Mexico illegally, a dirty cell with no food and no health care. That's better than any wall!
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Dec 29, 2015 10:50 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
well mac i have figured out at least two ways to get the mexicans to build that wall on the cheap, "pattin myself on the back"

and a third way thats even cheaper more permanent and already used by many countries and oil co.'s to secure property and pipelines, but when costs are too cheap the establishment WINO's cant git kick backs,
"snobby lobby money".
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Dec 29, 2015 11:00 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Every country has the right to determine who can and cannot enter it's borders, particularly in times like this when ISIS has declared war on us and everyone else, Most countries have very basic immigration rules that we, as Americans, would love to see actually implemented here. I find it rather disingenuous that people from other countries think it's ok to condemn Americans who want our when their own countries likely have stricter laws than we do.
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Dec 29, 2015 11:02 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: Every country has the right to determine who can and cannot enter it's borders, particularly in times like this when ISIS has declared war on us and everyone else, Most countries have very basic immigration rules that we, as Americans, would love to see actually implemented here. I find it rather disingenuous that people from other countries think it's ok to condemn Americans who want our borders wide open to anyone no questions asked when their own countries likely have stricter laws than we do.
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Dec 29, 2015 11:03 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pinkdiamond3: Is Donald Trump being unfair to Mexican Immigrants?




I think none of it is unfair. However, I think the wall is silly, especially when you consider the length it would have to be, imho. Build a 10 foot wall and they will use 12 foot ladders.
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Dec 29, 2015 11:06 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
galrads: I think none of it is unfair. However, I think the wall is silly, especially when you consider the length it would have to be, imho. Build a 10 foot wall and they will use 12 foot ladders.


Every time I drive through a major city I see miles and miles and MILES of VERY TALL privacy walls all along the highways. It's probably not the same wall Trump has in mind - and we probably need two walls...but for those who say it can't be done (not you... just generally speaking)...I think they just aren't thinking clearly. We probably have enough walls in America right now to reach China! laugh
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Dec 29, 2015 11:56 AM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
pinkdiamond3: Is Donald Trump being unfair to Mexican Immigrants?


First, not all illegal immigrants are Mexicans,
52 % are and the number is droppping.
(informed people know that)

Unfair? No.
Fair? Neither.
Each country has its sovereignty to decide its internal affairs, just do not forget the international treaties they have adhered to.

How many illegal are working in USA?

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What about the Americans that are hiring 8.1+ million ilegals in USA?
Should they be arrested?
Put them in jail and even confiscate their properties?

Who the criminals are?

The illegals that are looking for a job to sustain their families or the greedy Americans that are underpaying them, avoiding taxes and promoting illegals to jump, swim, fly, tunnel.....the border?


coffee
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Dec 29, 2015 12:04 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
About the wall

It will not work!
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laugh
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Dec 29, 2015 12:43 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Apparently DHS, Congress and the American people seem to think the wall is necessary. We are, after all, paying for it as we speak.

The Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2008, required DHS to complete construction by December 31, 2008, of either 370 miles or other mileage determined by the Secretary, of reinforced fencing along the southwest border wherever the Secretary determines it would be most practical and effective in deterring smugglers and aliens attempting illegal entry. This provision also required the construction of reinforced fencing along a total of not less than 700 miles of the southwest border where fencing would be most practical and effective, but it did not establish a deadline for completion of the full 700 miles. DHS set a goal to complete approximately 670 miles of fencing by December 31, 2008. In December 2008, DHS reported that it planned to complete all but one of the fence projects by March 2009.

A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll indicated the American people favored a proposal to build a 2,000-mile security fence by a 51-to-37 percent margin. The total illegal alien population was estimated by Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge at 8 to 12 million in December 2003, but Lou Dobbs of CNN regularly uses 20 million as a more realistic number of illegal aliens in the US. The sea of illegal aliens provides a cover and an environment in which terrorists can hide, and the tide of in-coming illegal aliens provides terrorists with a reliable means of entry.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:45 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
This would bring the total to 1000 miles with these two mandates. That is already half of the 2,000 mile border between the US and Mexico professor
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Dec 29, 2015 12:46 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
quote from WND,,, Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/

Here's why Trump appeals to minorities
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Dec 29, 2015 1:05 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
WhatUwish4: Every time I drive through a major city I see miles and miles and MILES of VERY TALL privacy walls all along the highways. It's probably not the same wall Trump has in mind - and we probably need two walls...but for those who say it can't be done (not you... just generally speaking)...I think they just aren't thinking clearly. We probably have enough walls in America right now to reach China!



Oh, that's an astute observation. Sometimes I think we have as much wall area here in Ohio than the actual road surface area they surround. As you've pointed out, these walls are primarily for privacy, aesthetic and sound-barrier purposes.




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Dec 29, 2015 1:06 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
galrads: I think none of it is unfair. However, I think the wall is silly, especially when you consider the length it would have to be, imho. Build a 10 foot wall and they will use 12 foot ladders.

Then selling/renting ladders might become illegal.

laugh


Geeee!

Are people that brainless!!!

They build the wall but there are boats, there are planes, they make tunnels....


transport
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Dec 29, 2015 1:13 PM CST Are Donald Trumps plans to bld a border wall & deport illegal Mexicans unfair?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Those poor "stupid" people in Berlin, China and Israel. Some pseudo intellectual cartoonist needs to tell them their walls won't work. laugh
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