How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed? (79)

Jul 4, 2022 9:48 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
bodleing2: Time and time again, it's been shown that it costs less to incarcerate someone for life than it does to sentence them to death.
The financial argument for the death penalty just doesn't stand up to scrutiny......

"Much to the surprise of many who, logically, would assume that shortening someone's life should be cheaper than paying for it until natural expiration, it turns out that it is actually cheaper to imprison someone for life than to execute them. In fact, it is almost 10 times cheaper! How can that be?"

To find out why.....

Never knew this Bod, thanks for the enlightenment.wave thumbs up
Jul 4, 2022 10:11 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
lonelytiger68
lonelytiger68lonelytiger68jeffersonville, Indiana USA238 Posts
No absolutely not, in fact it should be fine tuned.so that nobody on death row can die of old age.the way it is now in the usa. the person has to be in 100% healthy. you can litteraly have it post poned by giving urself a concussion or breaking ur arm. they use the humane excuse. the person's physical and/or mental health is not important. they should be terminated just like the victim.
Jul 4, 2022 10:12 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Didi7: Never knew this Bod, thanks for the enlightenment.
You're welcome....wave

It's sometimes said the you can judge how civilised a country is by it's judicial system. (70% have abolished capital punishment.)
With that in mind, it's interesting to see how many countries still use the death penalty.
I think many of these would score quite low in the 'civilised league.'

Afghanistan
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Botswana
China
Comoros
Cuba
Democratic Republic of Congo
Dominica
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Ethiopia
Gambia
Guyana
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Lebanon
Lesotho
Libya
Malaysia
Nigeria
North Korea
Oman
Palestine
Qatar
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Somalia
South Sudan
Syria
Taiwan
Trinidad and Tobago
UAE
United States
Vietnam
Yemen
Zimbabwe
Jul 4, 2022 11:09 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
bodleing2: You're welcome....

It's sometimes said the you can judge how civilised a country is by it's judicial system. (70% have abolished capital punishment.)
With that in mind, it's interesting to see how many countries still use the death penalty.
I think many of these would score quite low in the 'civilised league.'
Well, to be fair Bod, it may still be part of our legislation, but perhaps many of them are like my own country that doesn't really enforce that option.innocent
Jul 4, 2022 11:10 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Didi7: Well, to be fair Bod, it may still be part of our legislation, but perhaps many of them are like my own country that doesn't really enforce that option.
"In my country, it hasn’t been abolished, but it isn’t often pursued in the Law Courts. The last time it was enforced was in 1999." This was stated before...
Jul 4, 2022 11:12 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
lonelytiger68: No absolutely not, in fact it should be fine tuned.so that nobody on death row can die of old age.the way it is now in the usa. the person has to be in 100% healthy. you can litteraly have it post poned by giving urself a concussion or breaking ur arm. they use the humane excuse. the person's physical and/or mental health is not important. they should be terminated just like the victim.
wow Lonely, you ain't 'mincing' words at all....uh oh
Jul 10, 2022 11:33 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Condor009
Condor009Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 Posts
It's hard to clean up a charnel house let alone change one .sigh
Jul 10, 2022 11:39 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
make the punishments git the crimes and it would have an actual impact.

3 hots and a cot is acceptable to many criminals. if they can't be an addition to society, they shouldn't be allowed to stay a burden either.
Jul 10, 2022 11:39 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
Draegoneer: make the punishments fit the crimes and it would have an actual impact. (Corrected)

3 hots and a cot is acceptable to many criminals. if they can't be an addition to society, they shouldn't be allowed to stay a burden either.
Jul 10, 2022 3:46 PM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Draegoneer: make the punishments git the crimes and it would have an actual impact.

3 hots and a cot is acceptable to many criminals. if they can't be an addition to society, they shouldn't be allowed to stay a burden either.
That's a bit 'cut & dry'; there's so much more to being or becoming criminal and that's why there will always be a case for 'rehabilitation'.

And, by the way, it isn't an easy feat to determine which punishment truly "fits" the crime either.sigh
Jul 10, 2022 4:00 PM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland69 Threads 4,795 Posts
I have always been for the death penalty...lately I'm more for a reformed sentencing process...and harsher prison time, I.e...too many privileges, and I do believe that hard labour should make a strong return to be honest....you dont learn by getting alot of pleasures that you shouldn't have on the inside...I believe serious hard labour would make people think more than sitting in from of a psychiatrist ever would...
There are some cases where I do feel that the individual is so far far from reform and rehabilitation and who continue to commit crimes on the inside that yes in very few circumstances I feel the death penalty is right.. but I'm more for hard labour than anything else...
Jul 10, 2022 4:12 PM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Deedee123x: I have always been for the death penalty...lately I'm more for a reformed sentencing process...and harsher prison time, I.e...too many privileges, and I do believe that hard labour should make a strong return to be honest....you dont learn by getting alot of pleasures that you shouldn't have on the inside...I believe serious hard labour would make people think more than sitting in from of a psychiatrist ever would...
There are some cases where I do feel that the individual is so far far from reform and rehabilitation and who continue to commit crimes on the inside that yes in very few circumstances I feel the death penalty is right.. but I'm more for hard labour than anything else...
wave Yes Deedee, I see your point. In their attempt at making the jail time experience more humane, the policy makers have been TOO lenient. Hard labour does have therapeutic and teaching properties that can be more suitable than sessions with a psychologist, and reflect more of what 'punishment' should look and feel like.
Jul 11, 2022 4:43 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland69 Threads 4,795 Posts
Name_Taken_Two: Just a heads up Deedee, you won't get an answer as you are asking "Harb" and he's already got banned for being obnoxious..
Oh!!!! Doesn't sound like Harb ,but I'll take your word for it... the devil never learns lol

wave
Jul 11, 2022 5:09 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Deedee123x: Oh!!!! Doesn't sound like Harb ,but I'll take your word for it... the devil never learns lol
I think the phrase is “the devil comes in many forms “ professor
Jul 11, 2022 6:05 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland75 Threads 2,322 Posts
Deedee123x: Oh!!!! Doesn't sound like Harb ,but I'll take your word for it... the devil never learns lol
drinking wave
Jul 11, 2022 6:52 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
Didi7: That's a bit 'cut & dry'; there's so much more to being or becoming criminal and that's why there will always be a case for 'rehabilitation'.

And, by the way, it isn't an easy feat to determine which punishment truly "fits" the crime either.
actually. a lot of it is. easier today than ever before with all of the phone cams and such.

it is cut and dry. you murder some one. you shouldn't be allowed to be a burden on society. other habitual offenses warrant the same. take the case of the 72 year old recently beaten to death with a road cone. start it now, less kids will be likely to repeat, once the perpetrators are found.

too many things get a slap on the wrist. crime isn't getting better, it's getting worse. why is that? do nothing prosecutors, lenient judges. why should crime become less when nothing is going to happen any way? when it does, society gets another burden that can run into the millions of dollars over time.
Jul 11, 2022 7:06 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,371 Posts
basically. a person can be murdered over just about anything and that's okay.

to make muderers and other certain habitual crimes, cease from being a threat to society is not okay.
Jul 11, 2022 7:51 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Draegoneer: basically. a person can be murdered over just about anything and that's okay.

to make muderers and other certain habitual crimes, cease from being a threat to society is not okay.
This is true...sadlyblues
Jul 11, 2022 8:34 AM CST How do you feel about … the DEATH PENALTY? Should it be outlawed?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I suspect opposing the death penalty is one of those liberal tenets that is a bit like being sure you would have joined the French resistance. It's expedient to say you are a liberal so I don't think it necessarily means fair trial although of course people love public hanging when there is no chance of a fair trial.
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