How did Mary become pregnant? (427)

Crotalus,

You really want concrete proof of God's existence, and since there is no verifiable proof, you have decided not to believe.

But the fact that you haven't found proof, doesn't mean her doesn't exist. Throughout the ages people didn't believe in all kinds of things until later on when discoveries were made.

So, try to keep open in your mind that God might exist, but you just don't know for SURE. It is possible that he might not choose to reveal himself to you. Maybe because he wants you to voluntarily choose to find him, rather than God beating you over the head with it.

Many of the brightest minds in the history of Humanity have chosen to believe in God, and they didn't have proof positive. But there are clues, and there is intuition.

The atheists are not in a position to have to prove or substantiate anything. You are. You are the one making a positive assertion for the existence of a deity. The atheists are making a negative assertion. The burden of proof falls on you, not the atheists.

That is convenient for the Atheists, I would say. And it was convenient for the people who thought the world was flat too.

As I said Krimsa, there may never be enough proof for you. On a variety of subjects in history, there have been people who have experienced the truth, and still would not believe.

The Bible tells us that we can COMMAND god to prove himself through the story of Baal. Burn a sacrifice. It's all there in the good book.

Then Elijah said to them, "I am the only one of the LORD's prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. Get two bulls for us. Let them choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the LORD. The god who answers by fire—he is God."

Then all the people said, "What you say is good."

Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, "Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire." So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. "O Baal, answer us!" they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

At noon Elijah began to taunt them. "Shout louder!" he said. "Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened." So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

Then Elijah said to all the people, "Come here to me." They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the LORD, which was in ruins. Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the LORD had come, saying, "Your name shall be Israel." With the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs of seed. He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, "Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood."

"Do it again," he said, and they did it again.

"Do it a third time," he ordered, and they did it the third time. The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.

At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: "O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command.

Answer me, O LORD, answer me, so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again."

Then the fire of the LORD fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, "The LORD -he is God! The LORD -he is God!"

Proving God's existance is very simple: God has to prove its existence through demonstrable actions in our world. The reason that Ahab's people were supposed to believe in God rather than Baal is because, on command, God proved his existence. Baal, being a myth, did nothing.

That’s a round about way to address absolutely nothing.

The existence of God is truth,iam felling very luck to teach you about the fact of Deity as well as i am able to handle the burden it will be my pleasure

It was the Bible-believing Christians that persecuted those who believed the world was round. Afterall, the Bible said the world was flat.

"the Devil took Jesus up the mountain and showed him ALL the kingdoms of the world."

Of course, the Bible also said that insects have four legs, rabbits chew cud, and Unicorns are real.

Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. Not nobody. Not Nohow.

Exodus 19

19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish.

V good answer ,At the time of prophets,God sent his prophets for the peoples of this kind who were in darkness, entire universe is a symbole of God,if any body refuses that he/she donot blieve it means thier hearts are locked and they are turning their faces from God's side/from the side of faith,

Getting back to Mary, she was described as "almah" in the bible which translates in Hebrew to "young woman". This would have been an accurate description if left alone. For whatever reason, Christian theologians changed the word "almah" to mean virgin. The word "virgin" in Hebrew is "bethula". Hrmmm.

The fact that no one on this planet has found proof that a deity exists in the entire history of the human race combined with the scientific evidence makes the possibility of a deity existing virtually nil


Science an religion are not in the same league , religion can not compare to scientific theory






I can know for sure that the god of the bible does not exist due to the over whelming inaccuracies and contradictions in it’s pages , as I have said before I am open minded that does not mean I am prepared to except some ones word as fact with out evidence ,


Tell me are you open minded to the fact that Zeus exists or what about Titan , Apollo or the fairies at the end of my garden after all you can not prove that they do not exist



Not in the last 100 years, previous to that you had to have an allegiance to one religion or the other , among the higher academics the rate of believers drops down to as low as 5% , belief in a deity is higher as you drop down the education and IQ poll


Even if Einstein himself told me there was an elf on my shoulder, I would still ask for proof and I wouldn’t be wrong to ask. - Geoff Mather

Hi trish,Thanks for your help

As I have said Krisma, the fact that there is not proof of HIS existence, does not prove HE does not exist.

We have no proof of life in the universe, other than on earth. And your position is, that proves there is no other life in the universe. And you state I must prove to you there is other life in the universe before you will believe, and the burden is on me to prove to you the existence of life elsewhere. That does not seem as open minded or realistic.

But you must know there is the possibility of life on planets in other galaxies. And I keep my mind open to that possibility, rather than take a negative absolute position that because there is not proof, then life does not exist anywhere else.

Once again, try to keep open the possibility, consider that you might not know everything, because you don't have proof of everything.

Well since you are of such "high knolwdge" you should have absolutely no trouble spelling the word “knowledge” correctly then right?

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

- Bertrand Russell







Yes we do

No problem it can be

The Quran is another exmple of a plagurized myth.

What YOU need to understand is that most athiests started out as FORCEDLY INDOCTRINATED Christians.

Open that head of yours and research history. Find the origions of all the Biblical myths.

THEN address the issue of "Knowledge".

Until you do that, you're just reading and interpreting according to your dogma and it's preachers....

Crotalus,

Just out of curiosity, what proof do you have that there is life in the universe, other than here on earth?