How did Mary become pregnant? (427)

Feb 20, 2009 11:43 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
crotalus_p: Where is your evidence for this ???


well he did make his mistakes too.rolling on the floor laughing

zee
Feb 20, 2009 11:48 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Yes, i have billions of evidence not just one,
the sea, the stars,the food,the humans,the mountains,the rivers,the earth, etc etc are the evidence of God

Suppose,we are using computers,if computer is definatly there is its inventor/creator
Feb 20, 2009 11:51 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
Now the Pope is getting pissed!rolling on the floor laughing
Must have learned a thing or two from Militant Islamists!laugh






Feb 20, 2009 11:52 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
crotalus_p: Where is your evidence for this ???


Good question. I see a lot of proselytizing on this thread and very little in the way of historical accuracy. confused
Feb 20, 2009 12:00 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Oh Oh is this good questions??laugh

If i am looking moon and ask u where is moon is this good questionlaugh
Feb 20, 2009 12:03 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Yes,you must learn becoz you dont know the fact,ohmmmm at the age of i think ohmmm 67++laugh
Feb 20, 2009 12:04 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
mrali: Oh Oh is this good questions??

If i am looking moon and ask u where is moon is this good question


Well you have yet to answer one that I have seen on any of these threads. You just ignore and continue to proselytize.
Feb 20, 2009 12:09 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
Steevyv
SteevyvSteevyvsisak, Central Croatia Croatia65 Threads 805 Posts
How should I know when she don't? Book says that Holly spirit arranged all but Joseph was sleeping with her too in the same time. If it happens today wont be any problem to find out who is father, boys have only to give a drop of blood, but in those days....
Feb 20, 2009 12:11 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
No Baby, i am not ignoring or proselytizing,i am telling you the truth,a matter of fact
Feb 20, 2009 12:15 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
Steevyv
SteevyvSteevyvsisak, Central Croatia Croatia65 Threads 805 Posts
In connection to the subject, young girls in Croatia preys in the following way:
Virgin Mary,
you, who become pregnant
without doing the sin,
arrange somehow that I can do sins
without staying pregnant.
Feb 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
mrali: No Baby, i am not ignoring or proselytizing,i am telling you the truth,a matter of fact


Yeah never mind those pesky facts! rolling on the floor laughing laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 20, 2009 12:32 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Lovely facts,these are the ways where we have to spend our lives and we should blieve in and follow them
Feb 20, 2009 12:37 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
mrali: Lovely facts,these are the ways where we have to spend our lives and we should blieve in and follow them


No, you don’t understand. I was implying that you have imparted no facts and have merely proselytized.
Feb 20, 2009 12:42 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: Yes, i have billions of evidence not just one,
the sea, the stars,the food,the humans,the mountains,the rivers,the earth, etc etc are the evidence of God

Suppose,we are using computers,if computer is definatly there is its inventor/creator


mrali, maybe you can answer a question that has been troubling me for some time. By what you just said I'm assuming that it is your belief that God was so powerful that "He" created "the sea, the stars,the food,the humans,the mountains,the rivers,the earth, etc etc".

Is that correct?

I'll ask my question after you confirm this statement.
Feb 20, 2009 12:48 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Sure ,why not,its my pleasure to answer you,please if you have questions

Yes ,God is creator of the universe
Feb 20, 2009 12:54 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Oh sweety ,i understood your words and i answerd,you
Feb 20, 2009 1:05 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
i wouldnt touch this topic


other than to peek in and say


wave ooby
Feb 20, 2009 2:57 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: While I'm asking also, why did he have to use a rib from Adam to create Eve?


Well if you want to get technical here there are two different accounts of creation found in Genesis. One states that man and woman were made at the same time and then Gen 2 goes through the whole rib shebang. Contradictory! The entire bible is like that.
Feb 21, 2009 3:44 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
mrali: Yes, i have billions of evidence not just one,
the sea, the stars,the food,the humans,the mountains,the rivers,the earth, etc etc are the evidence of God
That is not evidence of god that is evidence of the sea, the stars,the food,the humans,the mountains,the rivers,the earth, etc etc scold






mrali: Suppose,we are using computers,if computer is definatly there is its inventor/creator
I can prove who invented the computer , I can go to the factory and see where my computer was made , if you are so adamant that god exists then back up your statement’s with evidence scold
Feb 21, 2009 4:06 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
mrali: Sure ,why not,its my pleasure to answer you,please if you have questions

Yes ,God is creator of the universe


Why would a perfect god need to create a universe, wouldnt it be sufficient unto itself?
Feb 21, 2009 8:40 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: I can prove who invented the computer , I can go to the factory and see where my computer was made , if you are so adamant that god exists then back up your statement’s with evidence


Oh but suplying credible evidence requires too much work. laugh
Feb 21, 2009 9:50 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
lights
lightslightsDenver, Colorado USA6 Threads 504 Posts
krimsa: Express your feelings on the matter of the Virgin Mary's Immaculate Conception.


I believe in the Immaculate Conception. I certainly can't prove it of course, it is just the virtue of Faith. You know, if Jesus was simply a myth, He sure has had an impact on the history of the Human Race.

As you know, in the Bible, there are numerous instances of Prophets who had a special ability to communicate with God. God simply is love, and he created the universe and human beings because of his infinite love, so that we could learn his love and learn how to develop the ability to love, on our own. That pleases God.

Along these lines, I believe God still reaches out to us today, not so much through the Prophets anymore, but through Mary. Mary has appeared (Marian apparitions) in Fatima, Portugal; Garabandal, Spain; Medjugorie, Yugoslavia (longest running & still occurring); Betania, Venezula; Mexico; Ukraine; Eqypt; Belgium; and more.

In each of these apparitions, she tells us about God's love for us. You might think the Catholic church would broadcast these super-natural occurrences from the steeple-tops, because these are truly miraculous events, but the Church does not. Why? Because apparitions can be from God, and they can be Satanic too. If you were a Bishop, and a person in your parish came to you and said, "The Blessed Mary appeared to me and told me......." , you would have to wonder what to think. So, the Church takes a neutral approach initially, which is a plan to " wait and see what the fruit of the message is." The test of time. In time the truth always comes out.So, if the harvest of the message leads people towards Our Lord, then the message was authentic. If it leads towards emptiness, or selfishness, or the Darkness, then we can know it is not from Mary or God.

I guy named Michael H. Brown wrote a book about the Marian apparitions called: "The Final Hour". Brown was born a Catholic, but never really had any faith. He became an investigative journalist (back in the 70's, he exposed an environmental disaster in New York state known as the Love Canal, which ultimately led to the formation of the Environmental Protection Agency) Brown decided to write a book exposing the current Medjugorie apparition for the fraud he believed it to be, and in the process got his Faith and ended up writing "The Final Hour" He developed a theory that wherever there is great Grace and supernatural love, there also tends to be a countering kind of evil around the edges or the perimeter of the supernatural site. He noticed this phenomenon in his research of the various Marion Appartioin sites.

This is all there for you to check out- and that is why we are all here on earth: to learn about God. To seek Him.

But if you choose to not believe, no one can prove it to you. Love is voluntary- it comes from the heart without being forced. God does not force anything on us. It is all up to us.

I hope you will do some research on this.
Feb 21, 2009 9:52 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
krimsa: Just ask any Christian on forum and I think they will disagree with you.


Well, that's nothing new laugh

Honestly, I do not have an opinion on how she got that baby, I believe Jesus did exist and that he was born under special circumstances, but apart from that, I am ignorant.
Feb 21, 2009 10:07 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
krimsa: Express your feelings on the matter of the Virgin Mary's Immaculate Conception.


Maybe she used the power of thought for instant manifestation?

Maybe it never really happened?

Maybe Joe the plumber's ancestor had something to do with it, no?

Christian/Roman Catholic Dogma=sketchy

Also, Mary lived a life completely free from sin...was she not that cool in person to hang out with you think? I mean, this is a woman who was impregnated by the Holy Spirit!
Feb 21, 2009 10:12 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
lights: it is just the virtue of Faith. .
Blind faith is not a virtue it is wilful ignorance doh


lights: But if you choose to not believe, .
Firstly you can not choose to believe something it is either believable in you mind or it is not , scold
Feb 21, 2009 10:15 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
crotalus_p: Blind faith is not a virtue it is wilful ignorance Firstly you can not choose to believe something it is either believable in you mind or it is not ,


Richard Dawkins agrees, so do I cheers

Hope all is cool with you crotalus! Do you blind faith in your scoring abilities tonight?laugh jk
Feb 21, 2009 10:16 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
oops..I meant have blind faith and not 'do you blind faith' lol

StressFree: Richard Dawkins agrees, so do I

Hope all is cool with you crotalus! Do you have blind faith in your scoring abilities tonight? jk


fixed
Feb 21, 2009 10:21 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
StressFree: I really wanted to respond to this, but I would get banned for saying something twisted in good spirit


rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 21, 2009 10:24 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
lights
lightslightsDenver, Colorado USA6 Threads 504 Posts
Crotalus,

My faith is not blind, as you can see, I have done a lot of homework on it. I am an analytical person by nature, and I don't "blindly" accept anything. Actually, at my age ( 56 ) and having operated a business for over 30 years, I know I have more than a degree of cynicism.

Try to keep an open mind Crotalus, that's what I do.

When I was about 10 years old, and one again later, when I was in my teens, I saw a super-natural being. It only occurred for a minute or less. Happened in our family house both times, and I didn't experience anything other than the vision. I didn't hear anything, I didn't smell anything, I didn't feel anything, just saw a transparent, white, feminine appearing image. I don't who 'she' was or what the purpose of the appearance was, other than it made clear to me, that there is more to this world than meets the eye.
Feb 21, 2009 10:24 AM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
krimsa: Right. I have glanced through a book about that. It was called "Pagan Christ". The parallels are fascinating.

goes back frther than that. The Sumerians (considered the first "civilization" had the first known anthropomorphic gods, the Annunakki)

They created man from mud and called him "a-Dom"
Had a flood story.

Abraham came from the city of UR. Which was occupied by the Sumerians. He took their ideas and started his own desert cult.
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