How did Mary become pregnant? (427)

Feb 21, 2009 12:06 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: In islam there is no capicity or permision to force others


Thats not true at all.
scold
Feb 21, 2009 12:08 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
lights: Crotalus,

Just out of curiosity, what proof do you have that there is life in the universe, other than here on earth?
I don’t have it NASA has it roll eyes If we forget about the evidence collected from other planets for a minute , purely on a statistically basis there should be quite a few planets out there with “earth like” life on them cool
Feb 21, 2009 12:12 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
lights: Crotalus,

Just out of curiosity, what proof do you have that there is life in the universe, other than here on earth?


Here is something to think about...Dr. Michio Kaku and Carl Sagan's thoughts/analysis...





Feb 21, 2009 12:15 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
Back to Virgin Birth.....

Which of these is true and why?

Adonis
Attis
Osirus
Perseus
Mithra
Dionysus
(And over a dozen others)

or

Jesus <----me too, me too!!!
Feb 21, 2009 12:17 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Just a side note by kind of important. The Sumerian culture existed LONG before the bible was written but they were sacked by a people called the Akkadians which were Semitic in origin and this is more than likely what enabled the stories of the Sumerians to be passed down and eventually make their way to the bible.
Feb 21, 2009 12:17 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: I am niot using my own logic or i am not making words myself,i am telling you only the truth which you dont know,you should blieve and follow

Soorah Maryam(mary)(Al Quran)Begining wth the name of Allah who is most merciful and beneficeint.

This is the matter of Your god who grant Zakria(A Prophet)when Zakria ask the God that and said oh my lord my bones are very old oh my Lord,i did not disoppointed by you ever,God replied,Oh zakria, i will give a son named yahya,Zakria replied that how it will be although my wife is very old and unable for the birth of a child and i am at the limit of age,God replied,this is very easy for me i creat you when you were nothing
And where did you get that One and Only TRUTH from,if not from Hearsay?confused mumbling
Feb 21, 2009 12:17 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
princemuncher
princemuncherprincemunchernorthfield, Ohio USA12 Threads 378 Posts
mrali: I am niot using my own logic or i am not making words myself,i am telling you only the truth which you dont know,you should blieve and follow

Soorah Maryam(mary)(Al Quran)Begining wth the name of Allah who is most merciful and beneficeint.

This is the matter of Your god who grant Zakria(A Prophet)when Zakria ask the God that and said oh my lord my bones are very old oh my Lord,i did not disoppointed by you ever,God replied,Oh zakria, i will give a son named yahya,Zakria replied that how it will be although my wife is very old and unable for the birth of a child and i am at the limit of age,God replied,this is very easy for me i creat you when you were nothing


So, you're using scripture to substantite scripture and calling it fact?

That's pretty funny.....doh
Feb 21, 2009 12:19 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: I am niot using my own logic


You are not using any logic and simply proseltyzing.
Feb 21, 2009 12:20 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: I am niot using my own logic or i am not making words myself,i am telling you only the truth which you dont know,you should blieve and follow

Soorah Maryam(mary)(Al Quran)Begining wth the name of Allah who is most merciful and beneficeint.

This is the matter of Your god who grant Zakria(A Prophet)when Zakria ask the God that and said oh my lord my bones are very old oh my Lord,i did not disoppointed by you ever,God replied,Oh zakria, i will give a son named yahya,Zakria replied that how it will be although my wife is very old and unable for the birth of a child and i am at the limit of age,God replied,this is very easy for me i creat you when you were nothing
One prophet plagiarizing the plagiarized Content of another plagiarized Prophet,which plagiarized it from some one else,and so on,and so fort.....laugh
Feb 21, 2009 12:23 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: I am niot using my own logic or i am not making words myself,i am telling you only the truth which you dont know,you should blieve and follow

Soorah Maryam(mary)(Al Quran)Begining wth the name of Allah who is most merciful and beneficeint.

This is the matter of Your god who grant Zakria(A Prophet)when Zakria ask the God that and said oh my lord my bones are very old oh my Lord,i did not disoppointed by you ever,God replied,Oh zakria, i will give a son named yahya,Zakria replied that how it will be although my wife is very old and unable for the birth of a child and i am at the limit of age,God replied,this is very easy for me i creat you when you were nothing
Not using your Own Logic is exactly your Problem!
A little Bit of Common Sense goes a long way!grin
Feb 21, 2009 12:24 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
krimsa: Just a side note by kind of important. The Sumerian culture existed LONG before the bible was written but they were sacked by a people called the Akkadians which were Semitic in origin and this is more than likely what enabled the stories of the Sumerians to be passed down and eventually make their way to the bible.


And Atlantis existed way before the Sumerian civilization...
Feb 21, 2009 12:26 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
lights: Crotalus,

Just out of curiosity, what proof do you have that there is life in the universe, other than here on earth?
The Martian Meteor found a while back,and not the only evidence,since there are Hydrocarbons in Comets as well!




grin
Feb 21, 2009 12:28 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Conrad73: Not using your Own Logic is exactly your Problem!
A little Bit of Common Sense goes a long way!


Unfortunatly many many of peoples are looking wth thier eyes and are still unblived,they are not using a little bit of common sense
Feb 21, 2009 12:28 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: Oh, u have more knoledge than prophets,who brought the Message from god and were familiar wth the Past.present and future,

Just feel for few minutues that You know/remember the time of your birth?How you came in this world,who creat the sea,?who creat the stars and rivers,

who creat a Fly bee? i chellange all of the scientists of he world ,just make a fly bee wth soul.

I had look around me already and i am well familiar that what i have to do

First of all you should know that Muhmmad(P.B.U.H)not came wth his own ideas,he brought the message of God for us,

god is not printing the pappers ,he is creator,he can do any thing just wth his wish
Even be so INCONSISTENT to break the Laws of Nature he's instituted?rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 21, 2009 12:29 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: Unfortunatly many many of peoples are looking wth thier eyes and are still unblived,they are not using a little bit of common sense
Which is exactly your problem.
Feb 21, 2009 12:30 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Conrad73: And where did you get that One and Only TRUTH from,if not from Hearsay?


Oh No, this entire world is fact
Feb 21, 2009 12:31 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Conrad73: Which is exactly your problem.


i havnt any problem ,i am solving the problems of other
Feb 21, 2009 12:31 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
lights: Crotalus,

Just out of curiosity, what proof do you have that there is life in the universe, other than here on earth?



Back to the question I asked you before that you failed to answer

Tell me are you open minded to the fact that Zeus exists or what about Titan , Apollo or the fairies at the end of my garden after all you can not prove that they do not exist ???
Feb 21, 2009 12:32 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
I'm Baaaaaaaaaaack laugh

Mrali, Now that your internet connection has been restored, maybe you would like to answer my questions from page 5? Or do I have to zap your ISP again? scold

rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 21, 2009 12:35 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
ooby_dooby: I'm Baaaaaaaaaaack

Mrali, Now that your internet connection has been restored, maybe you would like to answer my questions from page 5? Or do I have to zap your ISP again?


Sure ,why not? i did wait for you but u did not come lsat night.i am very happy to answer you
Feb 21, 2009 12:39 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
StressFree: And Atlantis existed way before the Sumerian civilization...


The legend of "Atlantis" is thought to actually be the very real civilization of Minoan Crete. Crete was a Matriarchal society that personified the role of "divine female" in their religion and culture.
Feb 21, 2009 12:43 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali: i havnt any problem ,i am solving the problems of other
With your approach I am not sure you will be solving any.
You have to use Reason and Facts based on Reality to do that!
Feb 21, 2009 12:45 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
krimsa: The legend of "Atlantis" is thought to actually be the very real civilization of Minoan Crete. Crete was a Matriarchal society that personified the role of "divine female" in their religion and culture.


Atlantis + Lemuria

that world sank

and now we are going the same way as Atlantis and Lemuria...

Gotta love cycles...
Feb 21, 2009 12:47 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
Conrad73: With your approach I am not sure you will be solving any.
You have to use Reason and Facts based on Reality to do that!


I will try hard to solve all of your questions,and i am not using my logic,i am telling only the words which are from the God

also it depends upon the listenrs how they keep my answers,
Feb 21, 2009 12:50 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
StressFree: Atlantis + Lemuria

that world sank

and now we are going the same way as Atlantis and Lemuria...

Gotta love cycles...
There is evidence that the Midatlantic Ridge was above water 12000 years ago.
And the Aborigines of the Canary Islands were surprised when the Spaniards invaded,that someone else had survived the Cataclysm.Plus some strange structures near Bimini in the Bahamas,and also in the Pacific.dunno confused
Feb 21, 2009 12:57 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
StressFree: Atlantis + Lemuria

that world sank

and now we are going the same way as Atlantis and Lemuria...

Gotta love cycles...


Na, chech this out.



The legend of Atlantis was very real and based on Crete and the Minoan Civilization.
Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
ooby_dooby: I'm Baaaaaaaaaaack

Mrali, Now that your internet connection has been restored, maybe you would like to answer my questions from page 5? Or do I have to zap your ISP again?


Mr Ooby,i am waiting for ur questions
Feb 21, 2009 1:01 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
You have not answered one question thus far.
Feb 21, 2009 1:05 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
lights
lightslightsDenver, Colorado USA6 Threads 504 Posts
crotalus_p: Back to the question I asked you before that you failed to answer

Tell me are you open minded to the fact that Zeus exists or what about Titan , Apollo or the fairies at the end of my garden after all you can not prove that they do not exist ???


As you know, Zeus, Titan, Apollo were all images created by man to explain the super-natural and natural things man could not explain. So, in a sense, the ancient Greeks were referring to the one God.

I don't believe in the Gods of the Greek mythology. Why? Because to me, intuitively it doesn't add up that there would be many Gods.

Reading all these comments on this thread, I just want to say, the Bible (by the way which comes from the word Library) is obviously an ancient writing. And I do not, nor do many people I know, take it literally at all. In those times, people had such a limited understanding of the world around them. Paper & ink were available only to the wealthy, and most of the writings were recorded on paper centuries after the events unfolded. In those times, history was handed down generation to generation verbally, often with embellishments by the elder of the clan who delivered the story. But what mattered was not the details of the story; what mattered was the point of the story.

People did not know the world was round, that microorganisms existed, the atomic structure of things, and some people would not have believed in it had they been informed of it. But that never changed the truth of the substance of things

Crotalus says I can't compare science to religion- I don't accept that from the standpoint that God created the Universe and the sciences, Physics, and Quantum theory, evolution, and Darwin himself. It was a Jesuit priest, a physicist, who first postulated the Big Bang theory.

So things go. I f you don't want to believe, don't. But many atheists seem angry about the topic. There is really no need to get upset about it, but if it does upset you, consider why.
Feb 21, 2009 1:05 PM CST How did Mary become pregnant?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
krimsa: You have not answered one question thus far.


Ask me ,i will happy to answer you and this is my wish.......sweet heart
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