............. .....What...!!! You were refused permission to get on the Bus,by the Bus Driver because you had finished a Cigarette outside the Bus..???..is that correct.???..sorry, I want to make sure I read this correctly....???
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
virgiomonkey: ............. .....What...!!! You were refused permission to get on the Bus,by the Bus Driver because you had finished a Cigarette outside the Bus..???..is that correct.???..sorry, I want to make sure I read this correctly....???
hibernianqueen: Yes. That is exactly what I meant. And I also want to draw attention to the fact that his Emissions are 1000 times more of a deadly threat to Human Health than any one person smoking a cigarette.
bodleing: Careful JD, she''ll be calling you gay as well.
................ No problem Dude.... Have been called a lot worse....Best one was, I was once email by an Lady calling me a 'Evil Male Chauvinistic Pig'........
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
virgiomonkey: ................ No problem Dude.... Have been called a lot worse....Best one was, I was once email by an Lady calling me a 'Evil Male Chauvinistic Pig'........
Ok, smoking stinks. Vehicle emissions can kill people, but usually don't. Once a magazine my mom reads had an interesting story. A lot of people signed a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide because the petition stated that infants have died in it and so have many adults and it's a very dangerous substance. Dihydrogen monoxide is a fancy way of saying water. They all signed a petition to ban water. I wish people would stop smoking in public because it smells bad. It'snot a matter of whether it's safe or not. You wouldn't deliberately let loose a skunk on a bus, even if skunks are not hazardous to your health.
I told my doctor I'll quit smoking the day he walks to work.
Once I was smoking in a public place and some guy walks up to me, points to a nearby sign and says; "Can't you read?" I say; "Sure!, it says 'No smoking within 16 ft of entrance."
He sneers and says; "Well?"
I said; "The entrance is way over there, that's the exit!" I ain't breakin' no laws!...
"signs, signs, everywhere a sign blockin' out the scenery breakin' my mind Do this, don't do that Can't you read the sign?".....
Yes, the hyprocisy is unbelievable when it comes to smoking. The bans have nothing to do with health. If public health were a concern of government, then drinking alcohol would have to be banned, so would junk food, some water additives, certain pharmaceuticals, etc.
In the US, each state has an "environmental scorecard" and reading the amount of toxic chemicals that are released into the air, water and soil makes nonsense out of smoking as a health concern. Some of those chemicals are known to cause genetic defects, liver cancer, etc. and yet the gvmt keeps either NOT recording those emissions or they keep increasing the amounts they deem safe, against better advice from the scientific/medical community. (Can you say: "corporate interest"? rhet).
Yes, if smoking were banned, the Feds (US) would lose 23 billion a year in tax revenues; NY/NJ would each lose about 100 million/year in tax revenues. It is exactly as a previous poster said: Smoking revenues almost exclusively fund medical care for those who choose not to buy insurance or who don't have sufficient coverage.
If every US citizen who smokes were to quit today, every working American would have to be taxed an additional $ 1,000 a year to compensate for the revenue loss. They will take the money from somebody and it's a no-brainer who and where they'll take it from.
I say: be nice to smokers, unless of course you wish to be taxed more.
This type of post has come up often in many forums.
Here's one fact - there are no comparative studies separating the effects of so called 'passive smoking', and the effects of all pollutants in the air, which includes motorbike, car, truck, bus etc. fumes. The effects cannot be separated in a meaningful and measurable sense. We breathe the mixture of all this - factories, chemical fumes, cars, trucks, diesel, petrol - you name it...
This is why a quanta of non-smokers mysteriously die of lung cancer (although, never having smoked a day in thier lives).
Also mysteriously, a quanta of smokers (who have smoked most of thier lives) - never shows any sign of lung cancer + do not die of this horrible disease.
Let's face it - drink too much water, and you can die. Breathe too much oxygen, and you can die. Eat too much good food, and you can die. Exercise too much and you can die.
galaxy15: This type of post has come up often in many forums.
Here's one fact - there are no comparative studies separating the effects of so called 'passive smoking', and the effects of all pollutants in the air, which includes motorbike, car, truck, bus etc. fumes. The effects cannot be separated in a meaningful and measurable sense. We breathe the mixture of all this - factories, chemical fumes, cars, trucks, diesel, petrol - you name it...
This is why a quanta of non-smokers mysteriously die of lung cancer (although, never having smoked a day in thier lives).
Also mysteriously, a quanta of smokers (who have smoked most of thier lives) - never shows any sign of lung cancer + do not die of this horrible disease.
Let's face it - drink too much water, and you can die. Breathe too much oxygen, and you can die. Eat too much good food, and you can die. Exercise too much and you can die.
Don't believe the hype. galaxy
Not a single person has ever died of small cell "oak" lung cancer that wasn't a smoker. Ever one has smoked. No matter how you sugar coat it smoking is a terrible thing for the smoker and the people around them.
Big_John: Not a single person has ever died of small cell "oak" lung cancer that wasn't a smoker. Ever one has smoked. No matter how you sugar coat it smoking is a terrible thing for the smoker and the people around them.
By degrees, my friend. And hopefully you don't support the worldwide meat industry that contributes 1/3 of the worlds methane? This gas is more harmful than nicotine, and this is a terrible thing for meat eaters and non meat eaters alike. Let's do a deal?
galaxy15: By degrees, my friend. And hopefully you don't support the worldwide meat industry that contributes 1/3 of the worlds methane? This gas is more harmful than nicotine, and this is a terrible thing for meat eaters and non meat eaters alike. Let's do a deal?
galaxy
I alway find it interesting that people defend smoking by bringing in other bad 'things'. Two wrongs do not make a right. Smoking is a terrible and horrible event.
Big_John: I alway find it interesting that people defend smoking by bringing in other bad 'things'. Two wrongs do not make a right. Smoking is a terrible and horrible event.
If you read what I wrote carefully, you will see that I am saying something about air quality - possibly planetary future. Anything, anything we breathe contributes to this air quality. Why is smoking a major issue? The original post is about emissions from cars. Methane is one of the poisonous gases we breathe, as is cigarette fumes, as is car fumes, as is diesel fumes etc. etc. etc...
What do we know about the effects of these fumes - together?
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Why not call it Ireland?
Just wondered.
And on a thread about offensive emissions.
WOW
The Celt spirit seems a bit strong there