Can English people speak English properly? (68)
bodleing: The distance between Manchester and Wolverhampton is
around 60 miles, but you dont have to travel that far
from Manchester to noticed a marked change in accent,
or should it be called dialect. For instance, just
40 miles down the M62 takes you to Liverpool where
the scouse accent is markedly different form the
Mancs accent. In fact just a 10 mile journey up the
road to Bury could lead you believe you have arrived
in a different country.
Do these kind of variations in accent over such a short
distance occur in other countries I wonder.
around 60 miles, but you dont have to travel that far
from Manchester to noticed a marked change in accent,
or should it be called dialect. For instance, just
40 miles down the M62 takes you to Liverpool where
the scouse accent is markedly different form the
Mancs accent. In fact just a 10 mile journey up the
road to Bury could lead you believe you have arrived
in a different country.
Do these kind of variations in accent over such a short
distance occur in other countries I wonder.
Same between Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Worcester all within 30 miles and all with a different accent.
I am struggling to learn Italian, but now even I can tell the difference between someone from Pisa and someone from Livorno just 10 ks south, same with those who live in cities and those who come from the country, so in answer to your question; yes same in other countries or at least Italy
Finglish anybody........
Ziva1: Finglish anybody........
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bodleing: ko
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yad ot uoy era woh....
Ziva1: yad doog..
yad ot uoy era woh....
yad ot uoy era woh....
uoy era woh oob ytekcit
bodleing: uoy era woh oob ytekcit
enif ma I enim ydnad
RobertC2: Confuscius, he say:
'Englishman show pretty Chinese girl how speak Engrish good Chinese girl make Englishman nice cup of chai!'
'Englishman show pretty Chinese girl how speak Engrish good Chinese girl make Englishman nice cup of chai!'
Robert be nice.
Dennis
SAXONNUMBER1: Opinions on native English speaker's and the future of it's dominance globaly as the first language.
Some can't or don't make the effort to, obviously (for example "speaker's" should be "speakers," "globaly" should be "globally," "it's" should be "its").
rizlared: The problem with that sentiment is that as time goes on, so the spelling and grammar gets worse, until it will be impossible to actually convey the meaning in an understandable format.
From time to time i travel across the United States and find words are pronounced and used differently. In NY they say 'yous' in the south they say 'yaul' in Wisconsin they call their state 'sconsin' . I am learning other languages and my own so this will become mute.
Dennis
rizlared: The problem with that sentiment is that as time goes on, so the spelling and grammar gets worse, until it will be impossible to actually convey the meaning in an understandable format.
Wile we can still speak the same words, do you have a statement?
Dennis
lorax888: Wile we can still speak the same words, do you have a statement?
Dennis
Dennis
No not really
Just waiting for the other poster to answer my post on info regarding 1700's EnglishRobertC2: Language is part of culture and evolves as a culture evolves.
Sometimes I feel like some dinosaur as the language has evolved way past my understanding!
Sometimes I feel like some dinosaur as the language has evolved way past my understanding!
CORRECTION Sometimes I feel like some dinosaur as i have reached their age
Robert dont mind please
cheers mateThe Inverness thing is actually true. Now fir authentic 17th century English, get hold of a King James 6th and 1st bible. First printed in 1612.YUP, took a Scotsman to get the bible translated!
bodleing: The distance between Manchester and Wolverhampton is
around 60 miles, but you dont have to travel that far
from Manchester to noticed a marked change in accent,
or should it be called dialect. For instance, just
40 miles down the M62 takes you to Liverpool where
the scouse accent is markedly different form the
Mancs accent. In fact just a 10 mile journey up the
road to Bury could lead you believe you have arrived
in a different country.
Do these kind of variations in accent over such a short
distance occur in other countries I wonder.
around 60 miles, but you dont have to travel that far
from Manchester to noticed a marked change in accent,
or should it be called dialect. For instance, just
40 miles down the M62 takes you to Liverpool where
the scouse accent is markedly different form the
Mancs accent. In fact just a 10 mile journey up the
road to Bury could lead you believe you have arrived
in a different country.
Do these kind of variations in accent over such a short
distance occur in other countries I wonder.
Malta is only about 20 miles long and 8 miles wide....very small just the size of a small town in any large country and yet variations of the langauage exist. You could say that each village has it's own dialect which differs greatly from its neighbouring villages.
On my travels, the best take on the english language I've encountered is in Ireland. The upper class, well educated Irish speak english more correctly than any other I've heard. Of course english has evolved and is evolving, its the most widely spread globaly and the main language of commerse
Godsgift: The Inverness thing is actually true. Now fir authentic 17th century English, get hold of a King James 6th and 1st bible. First printed in 1612.YUP, took a Scotsman to get the bible translated!
Yea and it was the Irish who brought the story of the Bible to old Britinia
morge8: Yea and it was the Irish who brought the story of the Bible to old Britinia
Not sure that was such a good thing
morge8: Yea and it was the Irish who brought the story of the Bible to old Britinia
Didn't know that. I assumed it was the Romans. I believe the Irish invaded Scotland and murdered all the picts though!
morge8: And the Irish got that Bible story Constantine, Chritian civilization spread around the globe from Italy. So its all your fault
Hey don't you go hanging that on me Pal, I may live in the most catholic country outside the Vatican but am African by birth an proud of it
lorax888: The other? I hope you do not consider me as someone that is against you, i simply enjoy the question 'why'.
Dennis
Dennis
No, not at all, I quite like your posts lol
I just was fasinated by the guy who seemed to know just how 17th century english was spoken, the rolled R's and sounding American, seeing as the first settlers in America were very English and the America Accent as such was created by all the mix of immigrants from other countries.
No .... not with all the different accents
People from Newcastle... have no idea what you're talking about
People from Newcastle... have no idea what you're talking about
Godsgift: Didn't know that. I assumed it was the Romans. I believe the Irish invaded Scotland and murdered all the picts though!
Yea christinity came to the Irish coz of trade with Rome, old Britania was trading with northern Europe. Yea a combinatation of Gauls, Britons and Welsh did for the Pictish. That area was a battle ground for centuries
morge8: Yea christinity came to the Irish coz of trade with Rome, old Britania was trading with northern Europe. Yea a combinatation of Gauls, Britons and Welsh did for the Pictish. That area was a battle ground for centuries
Jaysus, I don't mind being beaten by the Romans and the Gauls....but the Welsh! Grrrr. What in God's name were the Irish trading with Rome?
Godsgift: Jaysus, I don't mind being beaten by the Romans and the Gauls....but the Welsh! Grrrr. What in God's name were the Irish trading with Rome?
Yea the Welsh, a fearsome tribe..You got me there, don't know why or what the Irish were trading with the Roman Empire. The Romans loved there gold, coinage etc and there's still gold in these here hills
Sojourner: Probably the English that is considered the most proper and spoken most properly is that spoken in England by the educated upper class. Then there are many dialects within the UK and in other English speaking countries. Proper English is written English. Accents, slang and colloquialisms differ in each dialect. So, I don't think you can actually say any one group 'speaks' most properly.
As a non-native English Speaker, I can say that it takes a lot of effort to do it right and, sadly, many people do not want to take the time to learn.
I've seen many native English speakers rip apart their own mother's tongue in writing... appalling spelling, grammar, construction...horrible.
It makes me appreciate all the efforts that I have made, much more. And I take great pride in my English speaking/writing abilities.
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The distance between Manchester and Wolverhampton is
around 60 miles, but you dont have to travel that far
from Manchester to noticed a marked change in accent,
or should it be called dialect. For instance, just
40 miles down the M62 takes you to Liverpool where
the scouse accent is markedly different form the
Mancs accent. In fact just a 10 mile journey up the
road to Bury could lead you believe you have arrived
in a different country.
Do these kind of variations in accent over such a short
distance occur in other countries I wonder.