beggars on the strret...what do you do? (83)

Oct 17, 2009 11:30 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
solsticemoon: I was appraoched by a beggar and her dog..I went to the store n bought half a dozen tins of dog food...peopel are responsible for their own actions but the dog needed food!
good to see you are an animal lover!applause thumbs up
Oct 17, 2009 11:31 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
SoldierByte: beggars on the strret...what do you do?
Depends on the mood I'm in that particular day..
I've been know to venture both extremes..
from handing one a hundred dollar bill..
to pulling a gun on an overly persistant "gentleman"
wanting spare change...
The faces, language, and countries may differ..
but the begging, reasons, and excuses remain the same.
Human beings - we are what we are..
---SoldierByte---

mr robert is bad man..your bloody violent!...I need violent man to protect me..come here now!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 17, 2009 11:39 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
solsticemoon: mr robert is bad man..your bloody violent!...I need violent man to protect me..come here now!


I adore a woman who appreciates the animal in me! blushing
Oct 17, 2009 11:40 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
solsticemoon: I was appraoched by a beggar and her dog..I went to the store n bought half a dozen tins of dog food...peopel are responsible for their own actions but the dog needed food!


Many beggars with dogs share their food - so nice!
Oct 17, 2009 11:43 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131: i am in wexford! i knew we were related! .my mothers aunt was scottish aswell! .



rolling on the floor laughing I doubt if we really are but it was fun laughing about it tho.
Oct 17, 2009 11:46 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
damo9
damo9damo9canberra, ACT Australia1 Threads 307 Posts
we have the same problem in canberra were i waite to catch my bus home i see the same group taking it in turns asking for money but i know this group to well as they usually have alcahol for them selves


thes ones are on a center link payment which puzles me to wher ther money goes


i would help a person more in a third world country when i first went to the philippines and got out of manila clark air port it hit me so hard to the point were i nearly cried i am a big guy and i dont often cry but while waiting for my friend to turn up and take me to bacolod i had up to 10 difrent people comming up to me asking me for money

i could not speak the language yet what i saw for the two months i spent in the philippines has never left me


thes people dont have the support we have for our poor in our rich western countrys we live in


thes people if they dont get any money to feed ther familys they go to the tip and wil search for food that is thrown out in the tip or the women will do what ever to feed ther kids


what gets up my nose in our countrys we live in nothing is realy being done for the poor how often do you hear polaticans say we wil do this we wil give more funds for the shelters if you vote us in and when they win not one promise is kept or aid given to the shelters that give aid to the poor


i grew up on the streets so i know what its like to ask for money for food you feel shame and its hard for a man or women to ask another humen being for money


were i was taken i had to walk away as it was hitting me my friend told me ther goverment does nothing for the poor she told me thats why you see beggers comming up to you holding ther hands out


i have helped either given money or taken some one shopping i once took a home less person in to my home until he was abl to get back on his feet i learnt that the guy use to be a dr married to a wealthy women he showed me his degree and his refrences i was shell shocked he slept in a dumpster and would either search for food in the bins or beg


one of my friends who works for the salvation army found him a home and he is going well



help but dont give out money thats my moto







damo9
Oct 17, 2009 11:48 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
RobertC2: Many beggars with dogs share their food - so nice!


you know I love u Rob..but just for once could ya ever be serious??
you me n my dog in the boat..we'll eat you first n I do'nt care how bloody stringy you are!
Oct 17, 2009 11:49 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
damo9: we have the same problem in canberra were i waite to catch my bus home i see the same group taking it in turns asking for money but i know this group to well as they usually have alcahol for them selves thes ones are on a center link payment which puzles me to wher ther money goes i would help a person more in a third world country when i first went to the philippines and got out of manila clark air port it hit me so hard to the point were i nearly cried i am a big guy and i dont often cry but while waiting for my friend to turn up and take me to bacolod i had up to 10 difrent people comming up to me asking me for money

i could not speak the language yet what i saw for the two months i spent in the philippines has never left me thes people dont have the support we have for our poor in our rich western countrys we live in thes people if they dont get any money to feed ther familys they go to the tip and wil search for food that is thrown out in the tip or the women will do what ever to feed ther kids what gets up my nose in our countrys we live in nothing is realy being done for the poor how often do you hear polaticans say we wil do this we wil give more funds for the shelters if you vote us in and when they win not one promise is kept or aid given to the shelters that give aid to the poor i grew up on the streets so i know what its like to ask for money for food you feel shame and its hard for a man or women to ask another humen being for money were i was taken i had to walk away as it was hitting me my friend told me ther goverment does nothing for the poor she told me thats why you see beggers comming up to you holding ther hands out i have helped either given money or taken some one shopping i once took a home less person in to my home until he was abl to get back on his feet i learnt that the guy use to be a dr married to a wealthy women he showed me his degree and his refrences i was shell shocked he slept in a dumpster and would either search for food in the bins or beg one of my friends who works for the salvation army found him a home and he is going well
help but dont give out money thats my moto

damo9

hey damo wave
can you never just make a one sentence comment????
Oct 17, 2009 11:52 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
damo9:

damo9

see..less is sometimes more!!
Oct 17, 2009 11:57 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
damo9
damo9damo9canberra, ACT Australia1 Threads 307 Posts
solsticemoon: hey damo
can you never just make a one sentence comment????






hey solsticemoon wave



hay mum this is your son speaking no i could not make one sentance i was al over the place but for you i wil try its sunday still tired




damo9 grin
Oct 18, 2009 12:02 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
damo9: for who i like to type long posts that bring in confussion gets them having to think what i have said mum damo9

touche sunshinethumbs up
Oct 18, 2009 12:03 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
First I would give her a money making opportunity.....example: Clean another elderly womans yard for pay.....something she can do. If she does not do it......she doesn't need it so bad. if she did the job and I paid her, I would also buy her food of my choice as she needed. I will not hand her more money. I will buy her things like rice, noodles, canned goods and other staples....etc. Too many like to used money for other things or buy a bucket of KFC. and spend it all on one meal....etc. The money she earned she can buy needed toilet items or piss off....etc.

Depending on the person and their efforts as to how much I will help them. If you waste money on lazy people....there are children who could have used it and they have no choices.
Oct 18, 2009 12:06 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
bestat45
bestat45bestat45saint john, New Brunswick Canada8 Threads 1,169 Posts
Sometimes in the winter even though they have not asked, i will walk up to them, and give them money to buy a hot coffee. I feel bad for them as they are the ones carrying all their possesions and obviously have no place to go. It gets cold here in the winter.
Oct 18, 2009 12:08 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
bestat45: Sometimes in the winter even though they have not asked, i will walk up to them, and give them money to buy a hot coffee. I feel bad for them as they are the ones carrying all their possesions and obviously have no place to go. It gets cold here in the winter.
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Oct 18, 2009 12:10 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
somechick: I doubt if we really are but it was fun laughing about it tho.
yes it waslaugh
Oct 18, 2009 12:11 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
bestat45: Sometimes in the winter even though they have not asked, i will walk up to them, and give them money to buy a hot coffee. I feel bad for them as they are the ones carrying all their possesions and obviously have no place to go. It gets cold here in the winter.
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Oct 18, 2009 12:17 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
"Will play video games for food!"


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Oct 18, 2009 3:04 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
celticblue05
celticblue05celticblue05springfield, Pennsylvania USA17 Posts
I know this sounds weird...but some homeless people WANT to be homeless, some are temperarily homeless, some are insane, and the rest are on drugs or alcoholics. Unfortuntately there isnt a whole lot you can do.
Oct 18, 2009 6:50 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
explorador
exploradorexploradorsmall village, Gavleborg Sweden6 Threads 113 Posts
Boban1: In my town there are a few baggers ...some of them are children..age 7-8-10 maybe ....

my point was ... when they ask for some change (money)... i usually give them...its not a big deal here

don't they have to give the money to their parents then? i heard that children beg and then have to give away the money to some grown ups and get nothing themselves.
i think the best idea give food to everyone
Oct 18, 2009 6:58 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
explorador: don't they have to give the money to their parents then? i heard that children beg and then have to give away the money to some grown ups and get nothing themselves.
i think the best idea give food to everyone


There parents are also extremely poor people ... they live in a improvised shelter ,made of tin and cardboard ...and nobody cares
for them, do they have food ,water,education ...nothing....
Oct 18, 2009 7:15 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
explorador
exploradorexploradorsmall village, Gavleborg Sweden6 Threads 113 Posts
Boban1: There parents are also extremely poor people ... they live in a improvised shelter ,made of tin and cardboard ...and nobody cares
for them, do they have food ,water,education ...nothing....

yes i know, some people in west have no idea how bad it can be and no welfare
Oct 18, 2009 7:29 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
In Ireland there is no need for people to beg as we have a social welfare system that provides everyone in need of assistance with enough to live on so I,d walk by and ignore a beggar on the street.
Oct 18, 2009 7:29 AM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
celticblue05: I know this sounds weird...but some homeless people WANT to be homeless, some are temperarily homeless, some are insane, and the rest are on drugs or alcoholics. Unfortuntately there isnt a whole lot you can do.



Yes.. some homeless want to be homeless... thats true..
Some homeless dont want to be living in their cars... especially with children too

Where do our centrelink payments go... and for all you overseas people... Everyone here in Oz can register for the dole... everyone gets a fortnight check.. its not much about $500 per fortnight.

But this is the story.... if you were homeless and frightened, you'd join up with a street group for safety, and if that group that took you in were into drugs and drink... you'd be obliged to join them...

Amen.
Oct 18, 2009 10:26 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
bestat45
bestat45bestat45saint john, New Brunswick Canada8 Threads 1,169 Posts
sad situation no matter how you look at it, when you see people with no food or shelter.
Oct 18, 2009 10:38 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
lion131: what do you do if you are walking down the street,and a poorly dressed person comes up to you pleading for cash to buy food?do you feel sorry for them,and hand over some cash,or do you go by what a charity spokes person said a while ago,and ignore them,as they will never try to get out of their present situation if they become dependant on handouts?


Walk a mile in their moccasins....
Oct 18, 2009 10:43 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
celticblue05: I know this sounds weird...but some homeless people WANT to be homeless, some are temperarily homeless, some are insane, and the rest are on drugs or alcoholics. Unfortuntately there isnt a whole lot you can do.



Many homeless want to be homeless. They are satisfied living simply and having no responsibilities, no bills, etc.
They are still no less a person than any of us are. We should show our love to our fellow man, unconditionally, meaning they need not meet any of our expectations.

A meal, will keep them alive one more day. Give what you can.
Even if it's money, what's it to you what they do with the money. A poor man may drown his sorrows in his drink; it's how he handles life. What is that to you? Let him eat, drink and be merry, if only for the moment.wine

Even a piece of clean clothing excites them to no end and they rejoice!

One morning, we were in a truck stop in Los Angeles, California.
We had been there previously and saw the homeless gathered in groups there. Before we made the next trip out, from Texas, we stopped at the house to pick up boxes of flannel shirts. My daughter wanted to give them to the homeless people. We arrived at the truck stop. She saw them gathered around a 55 gallon drum burning a fire to keep warm. She walked over with the heap of shirts and passed them all out. They were very happy to receive them and thanked her. About an hour later, a man came over to my truck and knocked. They had told him who gave them the shirts. He was cold and wanted one too. I invited him to come inside and sit down. My daughter pulled a big flannel shirt from her closet, which was her own, her favorite, and gave it to the man. He was so grateful and he began to cry. He apologized for being in the situation he was in. He told us his story, how he got hooked on crack. He said he had nice clothes at home, but he lived with his mother. He could never go home while he was addicted. He did not want his mother to see him this way. He was very ashamed. I gave him a name and number of some friends in L.A. who could help him. We took pictures with him out in the parking lot before we left. We made a new friend.

We have helped thousands of people across the country in our travels. Some we buy meals, bus tickets home, give out blankets in winter, etc. There are many ways to help someone be a little more comfortable.

I once bought a woman breakfast, then gave her a hug. Tears began to stream down her face. Tears of JOY! Her entire countenance changed instantly!!! The act of love thru a hug, worked a miracle!!!

I have brought hundreds of homeless women, men and children into my home. Bought them new wardrobes, shoes, personal items, allowed them to take a break, to rest for a while. Some found jobs, some returned to the streets, one even married my next door neighbor!

You can love them back to life again!!!

HLteddybear
Oct 18, 2009 10:51 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
HealthyLiving: Many homeless want to be homeless. They are satisfied living simply and having no responsibilities, no bills, etc.
They are still no less a person than any of us are. We should show our love to our fellow man, unconditionally, meaning they need not meet any of our expectations.

A meal, will keep them alive one more day. Give what you can.
Even if it's money, what's it to you what they do with the money. A poor man may drown his sorrows in his drink; it's how he handles life. What is that to you? Let him eat, drink and be merry, if only for the moment.

Even a piece of clean clothing excites them to no end and they rejoice!

One morning, we were in a truck stop in Los Angeles, California.
We had been there previously and saw the homeless gathered in groups there. Before we made the next trip out, from Texas, we stopped at the house to pick up boxes of flannel shirts. My daughter wanted to give them to the homeless people. We arrived at the truck stop. She saw them gathered around a 55 gallon drum burning a fire to keep warm. She walked over with the heap of shirts and passed them all out. They were very happy to receive them and thanked her. About an hour later, a man came over to my truck and knocked. They had told him who gave them the shirts. He was cold and wanted one too. I invited him to come inside and sit down. My daughter pulled a big flannel shirt from her closet, which was her own, her favorite, and gave it to the man. He was so grateful and he began to cry. He apologized for being in the situation he was in. He told us his story, how he got hooked on crack. He said he had nice clothes at home, but he lived with his mother. He could never go home while he was addicted. He did not want his mother to see him this way. He was very ashamed. I gave him a name and number of some friends in L.A. who could help him. We took pictures with him out in the parking lot before we left. We made a new friend.

We have helped thousands of people across the country in our travels. Some we buy meals, bus tickets home, give out blankets in winter, etc. There are many ways to help someone be a little more comfortable.

I once bought a woman breakfast, then gave her a hug. Tears began to stream down her face. Tears of JOY! Her entire countenance changed instantly!!! The act of love thru a hug, worked a miracle!!!

I have brought hundreds of homeless women, men and children into my home. Bought them new wardrobes, shoes, personal items, allowed them to take a break, to rest for a while. Some found jobs, some returned to the streets, one even married my next door neighbor!

You can love them back to life again!!!

HL
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Oct 18, 2009 10:52 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
lion131
lion131lion131wexford, Wexford Ireland230 Threads 236 Polls 826 Posts
bestat45: sad situation no matter how you look at it, when you see people with no food or shelter.
yes,homelessness is a terrible situation to be in.
Oct 20, 2009 10:27 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
pastortim
pastortimpastortimAland, Aland Islands Finland32 Threads 29 Polls 243 Posts
celticblue05: I know this sounds weird...but some homeless people WANT to be homeless, some are temperarily homeless, some are insane, and the rest are on drugs or alcoholics. Unfortuntately there isnt a whole lot you can do.


Actually, they are from all walks of life to which put them in that situation. Sure, you may have the very few who lost everything to drug or alcohol use, but that is a very few.
Perhaps I can stand up for these poor folks for a little and say I have spent time talking to many homeless people and from just sitting down and talking to them for about an hour, you know their story and how they got to be in that bad situation. Some lost their jobs due to the business closing and couldn't find another job in time before the next rent was due. They got tossed out, no where else to go but sleep in their car till they have to sell that then its the street alley to live in. Its a rough life.
I have met one man who had the IRS take everything from him, he was once a millionaire and of course made a few bad investments, his wife divorced him and took what was left and the IRS came after him for the past years taxes and he had nothing, so he ended up on the street. Actually, met two of these rich to rags homeless people, one was in the stock market on Wall Street, had it all, then lost it all and owed over a million in taxes.
Since January 3 million people are homeless in America from the huge job market collapse. They have nothing, living in tents or on the streets. These are families and a lot of them have children.
I can go on about the many who lost everything to alcohol as well, but once they realized what they had done it was too late and you can't get a job when you don't have an address or phone. So they are left homeless, perhaps working an odd job for someone shoveling snow or cleaning dishes if they are lucky for a meal. Like being stuck between a rock and a hard place.
But the Governments do nothing for them, no stimulus package for them and they are left to rot and die in an alley and very few could care less.
So something to think about when you see someone just ask for a little help, perhaps if you have that extra dollar and you can spare it to that poor person, remember we all could be there one day if we make the wrong choices. I would like to think someone would give me a meal, a dime or a dollar to get through the day if that day ever comes. What goes around comes around.
Oct 20, 2009 10:49 PM CST beggars on the strret...what do you do?
i don't bother them if they ain't panhandling on my corner, i hate to have some one cut into my profits
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