Should we continue with the olympic games in China? ( Archived) (126)

Apr 8, 2008 7:07 PM CSTShould we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts

Should we continue with the olympic games in China?(Vote Below)

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Yes - no matter what
44
40%
Yes - but only when China withdraws from Tibet
14
13%
No - Not safe there 4 anyone
21
19%
No - just to make a point
25
23%
don't know - Who is Tibet?
5
5%
Total Votes
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I wish all wealthy nations
join in a boycott.

All this talk,
forever
and ever...
that regimes should not suppress people innocent
"There shall never be a repeat of
a holocaust or genocide"

Where was everyone
when Rwanda became a battlefield,
a slaughter yard?

And its happening right now.

Where is everyone??? very mad

Why dont the politicians see
the outrage in their people.

What a BLOODY FARCE these Olympic games are! :barf

If all western nations banded together,
there would need not be fear
of an economical backlash by
China.
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Apr 8, 2008 7:07 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
I wish all wealthy nations
join in a boycott.

All this talk,
forever
and ever...
that regimes should not suppress people innocent
"There shall never be a repeat of
a holocaust or genocide"

Where was everyone
when Rwanda became a battlefield,
a slaughter yard?

And its happening right now.

Where is everyone??? very mad

Why dont the politicians see
the outrage in their people.

What a BLOODY FARCE these Olympic games are! :barf

If all western nations banded together,
there would need not be fear
of an economical backlash by
China.
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Apr 8, 2008 7:14 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
I think a boycott would only isolate China further.

With a world focus and all the media that will be there gives a way better chance of communication and dialogue.
This will lead to China becoming more concerned how it is seen Internationally.

If I am wrong there are lots of other things that can be done. Boycotting goods made in China for example will have an effect now as China becomes a major player in the World of manufacturing.
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Apr 8, 2008 7:18 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Zarah
ZarahZarahdublin, Dublin Ireland28 Threads 1,388 Posts
patrickthomas: I think a boycott would only isolate China further.

With a world focus and all the media that will be there gives a way better chance of communication and dialogue.
This will lead to China becoming more concerned how it is seen Internationally.

If I am wrong there are lots of other things that can be done. Boycotting goods made in China for example will have an effect now as China becomes a major player in the World of manufacturing.
thumbs up
It is difficult to boycott their goods though as it seems most of our houses would be empty
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Apr 8, 2008 7:53 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
I have been watching this news item over the past few days and I DEFINITELY think the games should be boycotted or give it to someplace else. The darn torch can't even get get through without all the chaos. I believe with all my heart that there will be a huge price to pay (as in lives) if they continue. If the politicians can't see what is about to come then they are blind.dunno
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Apr 8, 2008 7:57 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
patrickthomas: I think a boycott would only isolate China further.

With a world focus and all the media that will be there gives a way better chance of communication and dialogue.
This will lead to China becoming more concerned how it is seen Internationally.


Well how isolated is China ???
When every nation is
courting them due to trade?

At the same time China
robs our jobs
in manufacturing;
copies our technology
to see the product back to us.

They dont care how they are seen internationally.
They are big enough
in land mass
in peple
in finance
not to give a damn.

They are "smart" enough
investing in countries
giving loans to third world countries,
within Africa
in exchange for their oil and mineral resources,
despite the Western Countries boycott,
due to the same reasons.
A fascist regime.

Remember China is in fact still communist regime
and I have to see a communist nation
interested in DIALOG ...

patrickthomas: If I am wrong there are lots of other things that can be done. Boycotting goods made in China for example will have an effect now as China becomes a major player in the World of manufacturing.


Boycotting goods, great idea.

Lets only buy Toyotas, BMW's, Fords, Siemens, Sony ...
Not the cheaply made CD& DVD banks,
Nokia phones made in China.

Where do you think most
product originate from this day and age???

We might stop shopping full stop.

Every single multinational has their foot in China.

drinking
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Apr 8, 2008 7:58 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Zarah: It is difficult to boycott their goods though as it seems most of our houses would be empty


Sooooooooo true!!! thumbs up

in fact thumbs up
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Apr 8, 2008 8:13 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
dcj22
dcj22dcj22Somewhere, Tennessee USA102 Threads 3 Polls 11,581 Posts
Ulimaroa: I wish all wealthy nations
join in a boycott.




I agree with you 100%, Uli.



Hello, beautiful! I've missed seeing you! bouquet
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Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Arlene101: I have been watching this news item over the past few days and I DEFINITELY think the games should be boycotted or give it to someplace else. The darn torch can't even get get through without all the chaos. I believe with all my heart that there will be a huge price to pay (as in lives) if they continue. If the politicians can't see what is about to come then they are blind.


Good on you! hug

Lets keep this thread bumped... Arlene

it's too important a topic handshake

gift
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Apr 8, 2008 8:25 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
dcj22: I agree with you 100%, Uli.
Hello, beautiful! I've missed seeing you!


gift

Good Lady-girl! hug


Been attending to my Japanese Boarder...
taking him around
so he can make wow at all the foreign things
he sees.

He is lucky he isnt Chinese roll eyes
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Apr 8, 2008 9:11 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
Ulimaroa: Good on you!

Lets keep this thread bumped... Arlene

it's too important a topic
I am afraid to watch the news tomorrow to see what is going to happen in San Francisco. A few people have already been arrested and at the time the torch never even left France at the time. The TORCH is only a symbol of what is yet to come. Thia should be stopped now before it goes any further. I see our Prime Minister is not attending at least the opening of the games bu there is no mention YET of a boycott. I beleive there will be one. Fingers are crossed as I cannot bear to see anymore useless bloodshed.
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Apr 8, 2008 9:15 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
I do know that President Bush was asked to boycott. Who knows, but it is not too late!!!!!!!
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Apr 8, 2008 10:37 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
Keep politics out of fair gaming competition. Let the
athletes do there job.
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Apr 8, 2008 10:48 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
wave Uli--- yes
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Apr 8, 2008 10:53 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
You don't solve one injustice by doing another injustice.

JMO cool
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Apr 9, 2008 6:06 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa: I wish all wealthy nations
join in a boycott.

All this talk,
forever
and ever...
that regimes should not suppress people
"There shall never be a repeat of
a holocaust or genocide"

Where was everyone
when Rwanda became a battlefield,
a slaughter yard?

And its happening right now.

Where is everyone???

Why dont the politicians see
the outrage in their people.

What a BLOODY FARCE these Olympic games are! :barf

If all western nations banded together,
there would need not be fear
of an economical backlash by
China.
Berlin 1936 comes to mind.
Playing into the hands of a Regimesigh frustrated
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Apr 9, 2008 6:27 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Gerry12354
Gerry12354Gerry12354Telford, Shropshire, England UK4 Posts
Just make sure we stop buying goods originating in China.

It is difficult because so many large corporations now manufacture there.

Ultimately it can only help the rest of the world's economies and the return of some manufacturing industries.

This is guaranteed to change China's human rights record but only if we all take this action.

For sure this will not happen unfortunately!
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Apr 9, 2008 7:48 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
I suppose the problem is that if you find a reason to boycott one Olympics you can find a reason to boycott them all..except the Australian ones...then that is the end of the Olympics. But maybe that is what we have come to!

dunno
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Apr 9, 2008 8:03 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
Gerry12354: Just make sure we stop buying goods originating in China.

It is difficult because so many large corporations now manufacture there.

Ultimately it can only help the rest of the world's economies and the return of some manufacturing industries.

This is guaranteed to change China's human rights record but only if we all take this action.

For sure this will not happen unfortunately!


This could well be changing now with the Internet. The profile that Ron Paul (sigh ) created using the Internet was impressive (Not him) The possibility of a world wide boycott spread through the Internet and other Media is a real possibility.
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Apr 9, 2008 9:46 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
Fallingman: I suppose the problem is that if you find a reason to boycott one Olympics you can find a reason to boycott them all..except the Australian ones...then that is the end of the Olympics. But maybe that is what we have come to!
I certainly don't condone boycotting ALL Olymic games, I just believe in boycotting this particular one. There has been so must travesty and unrest on the Bejing games, I believe there is going to be a Huge amount of lives in jeopardy. Whatever country was who as the runner-up should get it now. Hopefully it woud be more peaceful. I feel so sorry for the olypyians. It is unfortunate that politics DID enter into this, but it did. I am losing sleep over what I can see coming. JMOwave professor
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Apr 9, 2008 10:16 AM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
Fallingman: I suppose the problem is that if you find a reason to boycott one Olympics you can find a reason to boycott them all..except the Australian ones...then that is the end of the Olympics. But maybe that is what we have come to!
Hi FM wave
I'm greek australian.
Just wondering how come you made aus an exception.
Is it some kind of joke I'm not tuned into? confused
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Apr 9, 2008 12:46 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Arlene101: I do know that President Bush was asked to boycott. Who knows, but it is not too late!!!!!!!


I keep my fingers crossed as well...

But looking at the economical state of the US
I doubt they can afford to offend China.

Unless ALL Western Nations boycott.
The Entire EU, India, Sth American States, and Australia.

Again, Australia having close ties with China,
as it sees itself as part of Asia will have
a big problem boycotting. drinking
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Apr 9, 2008 1:13 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
agman: Keep politics out of fair gaming competition. Let the
athletes do there job.


uhm.... so you are into turning a blind eye
to whats happening in the hosting country?

What of human rights?

Can you enjoy games, when others are being
mistreated at the same time, Agman? hug
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Apr 9, 2008 1:15 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
Idealistically speaking...no...definately not.thumbs down


But, I'm not sure how the world would cope without it's biennial dose os synchronized swimming.giggle
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Apr 9, 2008 1:49 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Conrad73: Berlin 1936 comes to mind.
Playing into the hands of a Regime


Wise man cool

drinking


cheers
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Apr 9, 2008 1:54 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
highplains
highplainshighplainsHighland Springs, Virginia USA127 Threads 4,288 Posts
I would love to see the US boycott the games......
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Apr 9, 2008 2:13 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Hi Breezee,,

My reason for making an exception is that the Australian games in Sydney in my opinion were the best ever games and in the spirit they should be held in. There are arguments for boycotting the Chinese, Russian, American, Korean etc games.....actually I probably should have left out Barcelona too...those were good games. Didn't the african nations boycott Montreal?
wave
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Apr 9, 2008 2:14 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
I'm sympathetic, Uli, but I'm afraid I see a bit of a problem here.

True, China has a miserable human rights record, is heavily into person/thought-control, and is presently unrightfully dispossessing countless individuals in its own version of the US' "urban renewal" for The Games.

However...if we boycott China for these things, then what about the United States, since its government has murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians, illegally tortured and imprisoned individuals, and has sponsored state terrorism around the world?

Canada materially participates in the Iraq war, and if we regard that war as immoral (even in part), then surely we should consider boycotting Canada?

England, with its vastly upgraded Orwellian Surveillance State, probably should be boycotted as well. Germany has its own version of thought-control which in my view should be subject to protest.

What I'm getting at is that while western governments are by and large superior to non-democracies/totalitarian states, we are not really in a good position to morally posture - particularly the US, which is probably the foremost purveyor of hegemonic violence in the world at present.

So, I say if we boycott China, we should also consider some form of protest against the many rights-violating acts of Western governments.

Jeff

hug wave
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Apr 9, 2008 2:17 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Arlene101
Arlene101Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada9 Threads 3,320 Posts
agman: Keep politics out of fair gaming competition. Let the
athletes do there job.
I wish politics WOULD stay the heck out of it as you do and let the athletes do there job but unfortunately the western world does not see it that way. So Sad!!!!!
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Apr 9, 2008 2:32 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
Fallingman: Hi Breezee,,

My reason for making an exception is that the Australian games in Sydney in my opinion were the best ever games and in the spirit they should be held in. There are arguments for boycotting the Chinese, Russian, American, Korean etc games.....actually I probably should have left out Barcelona too...those were good games. Didn't the african nations boycott Montreal?
I can't remember what went wrong with the Athens Olympics (or I may never have realised 'cause I was here at the time and negative stuff may not have been covered on the news).....

The Athens Olympics were the first games after 911.
I thought they were non-controversial and incident free dunno
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Apr 9, 2008 2:40 PM CST Should we continue with the olympic games in China?
Vido1
Vido1Vido1Koeln, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany7 Threads 3 Polls 169 Posts
highplains: I would love to see the US boycott the games......


Conrad73 wrote:
Berlin 1936 comes to mind.
Playing into the hands of a Regime


Can we seperate the "Games" from politics? I don't think so (see 1936!). Because the poloticians are the ones who are mostly interested of having them!
The big companies (like Siemens, VW etc) are having too many stacks in this country, so they are only interested to have their investments save!
And what sense have those games in these days anyway? Just look at all the reports regarding doping (biking as the worst example) and all those athlets, who won medails and have to give them back later!

It's nothing but a comercial game! Those 5 rings should be replaced by dollar - signs!

And that's why I believe: We don't need the games at all
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