do you believe in jesus? (505)

Mar 13, 2011 8:55 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
reneldo
reneldoreneldobridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados46 Posts
solsticemoon: dont get me started...
Im just about to do a thread called "the ultimate home protector..my dog n his magnum"...feel lucky punk?


btw, ur probably the most beautiful woman ever born...than God for that.
Mar 13, 2011 9:08 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
reneldo: btw, ur probably the most beautiful woman ever born...than God for that.
I am a non believer,and i respect your opinions,and your beliefs,and also respect the polite way you responded to the ladies post.handshake
Mar 14, 2011 5:31 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
reneldo
reneldoreneldobridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados46 Posts
time4fun4u: I am a non believer,and i respect your opinions,and your beliefs,and also respect the polite way you responded to the ladies post.


thank you
Mar 14, 2011 5:35 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
Validity
ValidityValidityLindsay, Ontario Canada47 Threads 1 Polls 803 Posts
Yes i do
Mar 15, 2011 12:06 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
reneldo: You obviously don't understand what Christians believe. God is not Jewish. No part of the Bible says this. The Bible teaches that God existed before he even created the Jews or the whole world for that matter. (Psalm 90:2; Genesis 1:1) God is a spirit. (John 4:24) His incarnation in the flesh doesn't change that. Futher, Jesus doesn't say he is his own Father. You are talking about modalism, which Christians do not believe. Symbolically eating his flesh is just a way of saying to evercise faith in him. Further, Jesus isn't removing some evil force from our soul, but rather, forgiving us of our sin, and imparting to us all we need to live better more fulfilling lives. Nobody says the tree was magical. Death came by disobedince to God; it didn't have to be a fruit, it could have been disobedience to any command. Sin brings death. The snake didn't have the power to talk of its own, but a spirit being was behim him. All this makes more sense to me than to think that the whole universe came into being by itself, and that non-living, undirected molecules collided together and accidentally formed life, and that somehow apes started to talk and became men, etc...
Me, too(though of course, it's not the reason I'm a Christian). Nice post purple heart
Mar 15, 2011 12:08 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
SCatlyn
SCatlynSCatlynBrecon, South Glamorgan, Wales UK5 Threads 2,166 Posts
time4fun4u: I am a non believer,and i respect your opinions,and your beliefs,and also respect the polite way you responded to the ladies post.
Appreciate your respectfulness as well. thumbs up
Mar 15, 2011 12:26 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
ReaderOfSouls
ReaderOfSoulsReaderOfSoulsunknown, Texas USA193 Posts
Yes, I do.
Mar 15, 2011 1:46 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
Looking_Heart
Looking_HeartLooking_HeartSPRINGFIELD, Missouri USA15 Threads 5 Polls 592 Posts
yes i am grin uh oh
Mar 15, 2011 2:26 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
theoldestdear
theoldestdeartheoldestdearReading, Berkshire, England UK2 Threads 507 Posts
reneldo: , and that somehow apes started to talk and became men, etc...



Where did you get this idea from?
Mar 15, 2011 2:31 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
devon80
devon80devon80mytown, Kentucky USA705 Posts
RDM59: I believe the man existed .... but as the son of god .... NO.



I completely agree! Just a man like any other man. Stood up for his beliefs and was persecuted for it. Just as many before him and many do today.
Mar 15, 2011 2:35 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
potter1
potter1potter1stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 178 Posts
reneldo: You obviously don't understand what Christians believe. God is not Jewish. No part of the Bible says this. The Bible teaches that God existed before he even created the Jews or the whole world for that matter. (Psalm 90:2; Genesis 1:1) God is a spirit. (John 4:24) His incarnation in the flesh doesn't change that. Futher, Jesus doesn't say he is his own Father. You are talking about modalism, which Christians do not believe. Symbolically eating his flesh is just a way of saying to evercise faith in him. Further, Jesus isn't removing some evil force from our soul, but rather, forgiving us of our sin, and imparting to us all we need to live better more fulfilling lives. Nobody says the tree was magical. Death came by disobedince to God; it didn't have to be a fruit, it could have been disobedience to any command. Sin brings death. The snake didn't have the power to talk of its own, but a spirit being was behim him. All this makes more sense to me than to think that the whole universe came into being by itself, and that non-living, undirected molecules collided together and accidentally formed life, and that somehow apes started to talk and became men, etc...


To me the bible is fiction and not fact therfore should not be used as a basis of your faith. Sorry just my view.handshake
Mar 17, 2011 9:39 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
reneldo
reneldoreneldobridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados46 Posts
potter1: To me the bible is fiction and not fact therfore should not be used as a basis of your faith. Sorry just my view.


Define for us what a fact is, then define what fiction is.
Mar 17, 2011 10:01 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
biggles90000
biggles90000biggles90000kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland154 Threads 17 Polls 4,582 Posts
I dont believe in the way the church teaches us about Jesus there was no way he could of been white 6ft2 with blond hair.He was also married and had brothers he couldnt have been nailed to cross by hes hands because of the body weight it would of ripped hes arms off theres lots of proof if you read bible carefully.
Mar 17, 2011 11:21 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
All Im asking is 10 minutes of your life ...



Mar 17, 2011 11:29 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
nicky73
nicky73nicky73cumbernauld, Central, Scotland UK2 Threads 83 Posts
Yes with all my heart, he was the son of God who came to set us free from all our sins
Mar 17, 2011 11:35 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
nicky73
nicky73nicky73cumbernauld, Central, Scotland UK2 Threads 83 Posts
reneldo: Define for us what a fact is, then define what fiction is.


Your passion for Jesus and the bible is so beautiful and you have brought a lot of factual evidence to back it up. Believe me a few of the spiritual things that has happened to me in life is not coincidence.
Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM CST do you believe in jesus?
anblu45
anblu45anblu45treviso, Veneto Italy31 Threads 2 Polls 731 Posts
l would say to you the truth about bible but l'm not going to do it, enjoy the positive philosophy in it, at last don't you forget the best bible is written in your heart





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Mar 17, 2011 12:23 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
nicky73: Yes with all my heart, he was the son of God who came to set us free from all our sins
If you belive in this then so be it . I have a milder and diferent view . So what ! ! ! ! We are both members of the same specise and I would never hate or dispise you for your beliefs . I think that if you truly belive in your religion you probably do also . Wether one belives in Jesus as a real God or just a myth doesn't matter . If you follow his social teachings then you will become a better person for it . Isn't that what spiritual beliefs are realy for ?
Mar 17, 2011 5:12 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
nicky73
nicky73nicky73cumbernauld, Central, Scotland UK2 Threads 83 Posts
Hi we have different beliefs, but what you said was beautifulwave
Mar 21, 2011 10:24 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
theoldestdear: Where did you get this idea from?


That is what they are teaching in our public schools. Not allowed to teach about God, but are allowed to teach we came from apes. confused
Mar 21, 2011 10:26 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
MovinFWD
MovinFWDMovinFWDDaytona Beach, Florida USA36 Threads 3,234 Posts
MikeHD: That is what they are teaching in our public schools. Not allowed to teach about God, but are allowed to teach we came from apes.
Well I'll be a monkey's unclelaugh
Mar 21, 2011 10:30 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
MikeHD: That is what they are teaching in our public schools. Not allowed to teach about God, but are allowed to teach we came from apes.


That's because we probably did ........dunno
Mar 21, 2011 10:34 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
It's one thing to ask GOD for help for yourself .........

It's another to Beg him to help your friends suffering from painful disease . It naturally makes one completely lose faith when God selfishly and repeatedly punishes his children literally to death before your eyes. thumbs down
Mar 21, 2011 10:35 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
reneldo
reneldoreneldobridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados46 Posts
anblu45: oh yes it does, it was writen on the cross too I.N.R.I
Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum
the more plausible God visage is that l posted above, ppl from Nazareth used that hair style to distingush them
anyway God has not color you are right, as you can God is a trinity, take a look at our Madonna in Tindari Sicily-IT-

you can read inside the church "nigra sum sed formosa" is latino the ancient Italian it mean " l'm black and beautiful"


No proof here that the person (s) who made the madonna and child statue ever saw Jesus. Also, the words written on the cross do not discuss what Jesus looked like.
Mar 21, 2011 10:39 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
reneldo
reneldoreneldobridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados46 Posts
It's one thing to ask GOD for help for yourself .........

It's another to Beg him to help your friends suffering from painful disease . It naturally makes one completely lose faith when God selfishly and repeatedly punishes his children literally to death before your eyes.[/

I guess if president Obama doesn't intervene to stop a genocide that would prove he didn't exit! doh That is your argument, isn't it? Just because you don't know God's reasons for allowing trajedy doesn't mean he doesn't exist.comfort
Mar 21, 2011 11:00 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
Boban1: All Im asking is 10 minutes of your life ...


This as an interesting video, created by some very talented individuals. I was very well thought out and impressively compelling. It was also full of misinformation, imaginative interpretations, and agenda set presuppositions. I will not go into how pre-messiah prophecies from ancient civilizations are often misconstrued for an actual set of religious doctrines, or how Jesus was not born on December 25th, nor was He crucified on December 25th. All of these contentions have already been addressed. I will say that this was a very well made video, and nicely created to promote its message.
Mar 21, 2011 11:07 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
Frankinstien: If you belive in this then so be it . I have a milder and diferent view . So what ! ! ! ! We are both members of the same specise and I would never hate or dispise you for your beliefs . I think that if you truly belive in your religion you probably do also . Wether one belives in Jesus as a real God or just a myth doesn't matter . If you follow his social teachings then you will become a better person for it . Isn't that what spiritual beliefs are realy for ?


I agree that we should always be respectful in our discussions here. I know I have been guilty of flying off the handle a time or two here. I am called to speak the truth in love, or not at all.

But...

I am called to speak the truth none the less.

And if I see a great multitude walking blindly toward a 100 ft cliff, believing there is no danger even though they can see others step off unto their deaths, I am going to sound a warning. I am going to say "WAKE UP! Wake up! Can't you see the direction in which you are going, can only lead to death?"

I am going to try to get some, to open their eyes.

That is what I am called to do.

thumbs up
Mar 21, 2011 11:08 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
reneldo: Just because you don't know God's reasons for allowing trajedy doesn't mean he doesn't exist.


You say he must have a reason to allow tragedy and suffering. Can you perhaps explain what this reason might be ? What the purpose of this is ?
Mar 21, 2011 11:14 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
jvaski: It's one thing to ask GOD for help for yourself .........

It's another to Beg him to help your friends suffering from painful disease . It naturally makes one completely lose faith when God selfishly and repeatedly punishes his children literally to death before your eyes.



Your statement implies you know God on a very intimate level. So how is it you know He is selfish? Or are you just supposing by your limited knowledge and objectivity? Are you just using stereotypes that paint God in this image?

If you ever decide to pursue the truth about God, instead of standing at a distance making uneducated guesses, you will find He is truly quite different from what you suppose.
Mar 21, 2011 11:16 PM CST do you believe in jesus?
pauldavid68: in an ever changing world, i just wonder if people believe in jesus.
yes I sure do
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