RE: Has Trump made himself ineligible for any elected office?

Well, rather than listening to what ther people said, or didn't say about him, maybe you could have listened to him directly. It was patently obvious with everything that fell out of his mouth (or other orifice) that he was a completely inappropriate candidate for the office.

I'd even go as far to say that you could have muted the sound and just watched his body language to know that he should not be in a position of power.

I respect your knowledge and experience in so many areas, I respect your focus on facts, but politics, including the politics of war, is inherently governed by human psychology.

RE: BC versus AC...

The diminishing quality of disposable paper cups and towels are perhaps a function of environmental issues and quite rightly so.

Perhaps that's also true for other products as businesses aim to meet environmental demands. I wonder how long it will take to go back to the days where items could be repaired, rather than making them flimsier and necessarily disposable if so much as a screw comes loose.

Over here people are encouraged to bring their own cup with a lid when purchasing a beverage from a cafe, or vendor. Customers who don't wash ther cups are often refused service due to cross contamination issues, however.

I carry a lightweight, quick drying towel in my bag for either drying my hands, or swings and slides in the park when the need arises.

Generally speaking, I don't buy a lot of stuff. When I do, I aim for re-used and recycled for most things and I make things last, upcycle and recycle once they're in my possession.

So, no, I haven't noticed the diminishing quality of stuff from before covid, but I have noticed that trend since the middle of the last century.

RE: Are you proud of these boys...

What were the consequences for the liberals charged with vandalising St. John's church?

RE: Are you proud of these boys...

Is it me, or does 'Proud Boys' sound like a Freudian slip? hmmm

RE: Has Trump made himself ineligible for any elected office?

How the hell you didn't see him for what he was before voting for him beggars belief, but I guess psychosocial dynamics aren't your strong point. hmmm
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RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

Or without looking at any of the context behind, and surroundng this incident.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

That 'move on' sounds like 'put up and shut up'.

Personally, I don't see how we can move on without addressing the issue and without there being consequences for those who transgress the legal protections that we didn't have when we were that age.

RE: This WEATHER!

It was only tongue in cheek with respect to other people's comfort zones. I genuinely squirm if it's anythng over 15C and always have.

The last three days I have reached for a hoody several times and I've even had a delicious shiver, or two. This morning I was out litter picking in the communal garden the moment it was light enough to see. I guess it was around 11C, but haven't smelt the turn of the season yet.

Not that I can consistently smell, or taste much since covid, but it ocassinally comes back overwhelmingly like I've mmentarily morphed into a Labrador. I'll keep sniffing the breeze and I'll let you know when more hope is on the way.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

Don't mistake enjoying, or trying to enjoy the highlight of her career, the peak of her success, the fruition of decades of work, for enjoying being publicly violated by her boss.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

It wasn't pleasurable for her.

I think it's pretty clear the misogyny in women's sports, or in women's lives in general is not pleasurable for women.

Saying it's about friendly working relationships puts equal blame on both, when clearly Hermoso was not culpable in her own unpleasant, gender-based negative experience. Rubiales was at fault.

I think he didn't apologise immediately because he thought his behaviour was acceptable. He thought his behaviour was acceptable because he's never been challenged in a way that hurt him. It's so much easier to dismiss women's obvious discomfort and objections (like the young woman at the end of your op video) if there are no consequences like the end of your career.

I do wonder if Rubiales had apologised immediately and/or if the FA hadn't issued the damage control lies and/or if the RFEF hadn't pressured Hermoso (and even her family members) into defending Rubiale's actions and/or there wasn't a historical context of systemic misogyny that they'd all been complaining about for years...*large intake of breath*...whether Hermoso would have accepted the apology and that would have been the end of it.

I think his actions combined with the aftermath were the last straw and seein as it was all recorded and public, there's an opportunity to fight back, at least against him. I do hope that he's not the only ne wh is made an exampe of, though: I think some FA and RFEF heads should roll, too.

We are never going to affect change unless people are held to account.

As for what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, trying to be heard as a woman is not verbal abuse.
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RE: Weaponized...

And 'woke'. That's a dog whistle word.

Using dog whistle words is a brilliant technique. It means that ill-educated, or less skilled people who understand little will hear words that mean something to them. Alternatively, the speaker can talk utter incoherent twaddle and the listeners will hear words than mean something to them.

I've seen it so many times on here, or in the workplace where people pick out a few significant words and fill in the blanks from their own value framework. The writer, or speaker may have said something completely different, or opposing to the reader, or listener's comprehension. The technique relies on a lack of English comprehension skills.

I suppose I should thank Mrs. Le Grys for the ridiculous amount of English comprehension exercises she tasked me with for two years running, and how strict she was with marking them. laugh
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RE: True crime is not healthy for my mental health..

I think perhaps they're not healthy because viewers must become desensitised to continue experiencing them, thus the extremes become normalised, at least to a certain extent.

Having to stop listening to them because they're cooking your swede (as we say in Wales) means you're not becoming desensitised to violence and cruelty. That's pretty healthy in my book, along with the self-awareness of your mood change and the cause.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

That's okay then.

It doesn't matter that he spoiled the moment and took it away from her. She's not that important.

Her success is superceded by his achievement, or his celebration.

That's just the way it is on every continent.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

I'm not that loud, nor that emotional, but she did make many very good points. grin

The older chap made an interesting point when he suggested that Rubiales' initial defensiveness was understandable, as was his change of heart when he later apologised. I think we can accept that initial reactions can change after a time of reflection for both of them, except as Hermoso's male boss, he should have known better than to put himself in that position in the first place.


That's an interesting question.

s*xual assault can mean a lot of things. In popular understanding it perhaps refers to a range of non-consensual grabbing, touching and penetrating, but more recently it is used to refer to rape, which is now understood to take more forms than penetration of a va*ina with a p*nis.

The action was certainly inappropriate.

It was a violation.

It would qualify as s*xual harassment in the workplace; it was physical; it was a man acting in a manner more consistent with s*xual contact with a woman, than a work based behaviour.

I think it could be argued that the inappropriate behaviour may come under the now broad umbrella of s*xual assault, but I'm not sure that's the best way to describe it. It fails to capture the nuanced social dynamic and context surrounding the event.

As Professor Carol Anderson said, we have to name things to be able to face them, to be able to deal with them. We all know something is wrong here, but we don't know how to name it - that's clearly a part of the problem.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

Thank you for that link, but I was hoping for something first hand, or fuller reporting in appropriate context.

As I understand it, her immediate response was that she didn't like what happened, but after that it's not clear whether she was truly defending him, whether she was processing the incident, or whether it was before, or after she was under enormous pressure from the RFEF to justify Rubiales' actions.

Certainly, by the time she issued her own lengthy statement to refute the FA's spin (the cherry-picked photos with the lie that she picked him up therefore the kiss was consensual) she stated that the highly public incident had shocked her, but that she had since had time to reflect.

I don't think you can justifiably claim that she doesn't know her own mind. When events are public we are under a lot of social pressure to smooth over inappropriate behaviour. When events are surprising it can take time to process them. When someone in authority who has power over you does something inappropriate, or the organisation above them puts pressure on you to act like it didn't happen, it can be difficult to confront that, especially in public, especially in the middle of a celebration.

What I found interesting about this video, however, was the way the female guest justified the behaviour as simply continental. She defensively shouted the male guest down when he said he had lived in Spain and nobody ever kissed him and besides, that action is illegal in Spain. It struck me that she, as an attractive young woman had been kissed many a time and had been conditoned to accept that's just the way things are on the continent.

Now who was it that said you can kiss 'em on the lips, or grab 'em by the pu**y and they just let you do it?

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

It has been reported that when the game ended Rubiales grabbed his crotch in some celebratory manner I assume, despite only being a few metres away from Spain’s Queen Letizia and her teenage daughter.

Rubiales claimed that Hermoso 'lifted him up' and that he had asked for 'a little peck', but despite the FA using a string of still photos to laboriusly explain these claims, video footage clearly demonstrates that he jumped on Hermoso. She has refuted his claims and he clearly lied about at least one of them.

In Hermoso's lengthy written statement she said that this incident and the FA's conduct following it was the last straw in a manipulative, hostile and controlling culture, plus a long list of situations that the players have been denouncing for years.

At the end of the video Itchy posted in her op, Rubiales is seen grabbing a young woman around her shoulders, pulling her towards him and giving her a very firm kiss on the cheek while she looks uncomfortable and pulls away as soon as she can.

Rubiales is a grown man who should be able to control his 'silly ethusiastic impulsive reactions' such that they don't include grabbing, jumping on and kissing young women. If a child, or man had complained about him grabbing and kissing it would be taken more seriously, but for some reason women are expected to accept this endemic, systematic intrusion on their person.

Please don't patronise women by dismissing the situation as a storm in a teacup. The few cntextual items I've exampled above are the drop in the ocean. This particular droplet has been caught on camera whereas most misogyny and abuse goes unseen, unheard, or just plain ignored. Not allowing this evidenced incident to be brushed under the carpet is about a far wider issue.

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

I have watched the video you posted again, as well as watching/reading several other reports.

As none of them made any mention of Jenni Hermoso initially defending Luis Rubiales, could you cite a source for that, please?

RE: Shameful disgraceful behaviour

Who doesn't know her own mind? confused

RE: Kidney transplant...

My dad had a cadaver kidney transplant 12 years ago and he's still doing well. He's disciplined with looking after it in every possible way, though. For the first year he was cautious about having visitors because it's not a good time to pick up a cold, or covid.

Your brother will be particularly vulnerable while his medications are being stabilised.

RE: This WEATHER!

Laverbread is pretty disgusting on it's own - it's finely chopped, almost blended and very slimy seaweed.

Laverbread oatcakes (kind of like a veggie burger made of oats, laverbread, plenty of fresh herbs, onions, garlic and seasoning) can be made with any fresh seaweed. They're delicious served on thick wholemeal, buttered toast, sprinkled with sea salt flakes and a generous squeeze of lemon.

As for Welsh Cakes, I personally think they're an abomination along with scones, cookies and pancakes. They're most like scones, though and not very cookie -, or pancake-like at all.

RE: Trump Mug Shot

"Well here it is. A moment in history. How will all this turn out? Very badly for the Democrats in my opinion. But we shall see. Be careful what you wish for. Be careful for the precedents you set. For be careful they may come back to hit you in the áss."
That sounds like a Trump intimidation tactic, but hey, you've learned how to play the game from the man who holds up a bible for show.

RE: This WEATHER!

I'm impressed, Mimi.

Most people don't know that Wales exists, let alone that we have a language, traditional food and a costume which suits you well. laugh

I like laverbread oatcakes the best, but you might like to try your hand a bara brith.

RE: Zebra Crossing...

I was teasing you and yur funny American ways, Chat.

My bad, I should have put a giggle

RE: This WEATHER!

We had a heatwave in June for a week and a bit. Temperatures shot over 20C. shock

Since then it's mostly rained, or has been overcast. With whopping great highs of 14C, or sometimes even higher, it's been a muggy summer. I have my fan on almost constantly, especially in the hot, sticky nights where it rarely goes below 10C.

It's rained so much my small gardening projects were a bit of a washout, but I've learned from my mistakes. I think I might get to forage a bumper crop of sweet chestnuts this year, though. What we can grow and where is a global issue if food production is to continue.

Last week my daughter, two of the grandkids and I visited St Fagans, the Museum of Welsh Life. We picked an overcast day to go because it's mostly an outdoors thing, but despite the usually reliable forecast the sun came out, like completely. We went home earlier than we had planned because none of us could handle it.

We've been lucky to have our regular Welsh summer while everywhere else (apart from Ireland) has burned. Today is overcast with highs of 15C, but it's breezy enough to feel quite fresh. My voile curtains are billowing.

RE: Zebra Crossing...

Crosswalk...?

Like you have to frown and stomp your feet if you want to get to the other side of the road in America?

So much for having a nice day. Pfft! very mad



PS. Zebras. pronounced zeh-bruh, have black skin. The pigment is 'switched off' to make the white stripes.

Bus Journeys for a Pound

I remember paying an old thrupney bit with it's crystal-like twelve sides and brassy colour on the bus with my mum when I first started school.

That was disappointingly replaced by the swindle-some decimal currency (I was told in Boots the Chemist that two and a half pence change was the same as the old sixpence like I was a muppet of a five-year-old), but the public transport was also replaced by a school minibus-driving, diminutive nun who gave me my first lesson in feminism.

I'll forever mourn the magical thrupence, but that penguin talked some proper sense.

Bus Journeys for a Pound

Perhaps 'paselo' has some STI nuance you're unaware of. dunno

You make a good point, however, that we often give in our own best interests. The idea that there is no such thing as true altruism is perhaps altruism's greatest beauty. dunno

Bus Journeys for a Pound

Thank you, although I am having a bit of a whinge, and not just about the buses.

What else besides our much needed, but bonkers buses are we getting wrong?

When just a few people own everything and everything becomes too expensive for everyone else, what is the value of the richest person? hmmm

As for passing on the good deed, there are infinitely more ways to give than receive, with or without overt appreciation. Every supermarket has a food bank with room for a quid's worth, or two of goodies.

I saw an expensive box of chocolates in a food bank basket recently. We often think in terms of necessities, of three value tins of beans for our £1 donation, but forget the joy, the emotional value of a treat when life is a day to day struggle. I was vicariously thrilled to see that extravagant gift.

RE: Your daily dose of Donald...

How can someone lead a nation whilst in solitary confinement?

By prison security-read letter and limited recorded phone calls? Pre-arranged visits for four hours a month?

If they can't feasibly lead, are they still a leader? dunno
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RE: Has Trump made himself ineligible for any elected office?

I realise that this video is not politically neutral, but it does explain the law and the possible legal tactics clearly:



There's a lot of interesting stuff there.

On the subject of why it's taken so long for Trump to be indicted regarding J6, I think perhaps the answer is in how cleverly structured everything is such that people are being held to account for their actions, or held to abide by the constitution all the way up to and including the Supreme Court Justices.

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