Ps Some people I know said that they needed a dictionary a few times when reading it ( although if your writing an English paper I doubt you will need it)
Wild salmon meat is a much darker red and has tons more flavour due to their diet , unless you have experience of both you will have to rely on you fishmongers word
Translation : you said you "I'm now out of here!!!" but you ego wanted the last word
Congratulations you managed to con your self
No some of the people genuinely believed in what they where teaching, I am not the dangerous one because I under stand what happens , how it happens and why it happens
I know that it is all in the mindNow you are just talking nonsense
If you under stood the psychology behind healing which you clearly don’t you would know that 2 days is about 1 and 3/4 days more than you need to sell it to the public , as I have said before I have studied many different “healing type” therapies and have yet to find one that does not work on psychology
Firstly I did not quote you tube , secondely while you may not like to admit it evangelist healers are an exterm excampel of how people that do not understand what they are doing can go wrong with fatal consequences ,
You know based on the fact that his name was only posted a few hours ago I could not of attended any of his seminars so what was the point in asking ??, I did not "borrow" someone else's opinion/conclusion I evaluated the evidence from both sides to form my own
(You may like to note that I am being slightly arrogant , well there is nothing wrong with being arrogant when your right )
That is called quoting sources what’s your point ???
I have studied and practiced hypnosis’s including the psychology behind it along with a number of other “Therapies” used by “healers” , to date I have not seen anything that can not be explained by and reproduced using psychology, I have seen all the sides of healer’s the good the bad and the down right ugly
Trust me it's not it's psychology
Again you do not understand the role psychology play's in this I am not saying you are a bad person what I am saying is with out a true understanding of the psychology behind it you have the potential to become dangerous I have seen it happen on numerous occasions to peole that thaught they where doing great things when infact they where doing the exact opposite , if you want to see an extreme version of it just search you tube for television evangelists some of them genuinely believe they are doing good
May be not materialism but judging by this post you righteous ego does play a part in it ,
That is just plain wrong , most of the studies into healing are funded by healing / religious organisations , Templeton (I may have spelt that wrong) Foundation springs to mind as the funder of one of the largest if I recall correctly they ploughed about 3 mill into it only to prove them selves wrong although technically the evidence doesn’t hold water by the standards they set they where proven wrong
No I can only find what is there and judge it by it's merit
Here is the difference I cited some one that is a credible source , you did the exact opposite , My source likes to base his beliefs things on facts yours likes to fabricate facts to suite his beliefs
Show me one that has been confirmed and documented by a credible source to be a true super natural miracle
(by the way you might want to get ready for the swarm of media as it would make you the first person to be able to do so)
There is a strange doctor, Lawrence Dossey, MD, who has promoted belief in the effect of prayer on illness — a bizarre notion for a medical doctor — for years now. He has been the poster boy for the woo-woo folks who like to think that begging a deity will result in a cure. Here you see him in earnest discussion with parapsychologist Dr. Charles Tart, who not only believes in the same notion, but in a very large spectrum of others, as well, from Remote Viewing to Out-of-Body matters. Oh, to be the proverbial fly on the wall with these two…!
Dr. Bruce Flamm, mentioned here two weeks ago, has worked hard and long to show that the recent Columbia University-sponsored study of healing-by-prayer was a farce and a deception, and he now tells us that Dossey has enthusiastically embraced this study as definitive proof of his notion:
You may recall that faith healing guru Dr. Larry Dossey used the hopelessly flawed Columbia "miracle" study to demonstrate the "scientific validity" of faith healing. He did this in Southern California Physician, which is the official magazine of the Los Angeles County Medical Association, the Orange County Medical Association, and several other medical associations. Specifically, Dossey said,
Controlled clinical trials and the peer-review process continue to serve us well. The most recent example of this process in action in the area of intercessory prayer is from Columbia Medical School — a positive, controlled clinical trail published in the respected, peer-reviewed Journal of Reproductive Medicine.
After many phone calls and letters Southern California Physician today informed me that they will publish my letter about the Columbia "miracle" study scandal in the August Issue. This letter ends with the statement,
All physicians should be keenly aware of the fact that no legitimate study has ever confirmed the existence of any paranormal or supernatural phenomena. Dr. Dossey cannot seem to accept this simple fact. This is a remarkable statement from a professional academic journal. Choosing to eschew the usual "respectable" process of ignoring solid, legitimate, evidence that a published finding has been found to lack merit — and has even been found to be fraudulent — SCP has dared to extend its corporate neck, which may suffer a few nicks from the establishment as a result. I await the August issue with great interest. A doff of my hat and a bow to SCP!
As for Dossey's confident statement that "controlled clinical trials and the peer-review process continue to serve us well," I'm unable to find any such independently-arrived-at support of this claptrap. Dossey is simply wrong; if he were not, a major scientific paradigm-shift would have been in place by now. And please spare me the CIA/oil companies/atheists/Satanists/skeptics/communist/international conspiracy theories to explain why such a major breakthrough has been so effectively suppressed.
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