Now when you underlined what other poster stated and Ive re-read his post again, OMG I've understood better what he actually said. I am overdue to sleep.
You're right, its always worth the effort and not easy to maintain 100% of patience, to know when to hold back, know when and how to fold and unwrap the truth of you're main point, to try diplomacy tactics that doesn't hit as tone of briks to offend those that don't see the same thing or they see it from different perception, and to know when to walk away... Eventually, sooner or later we grow brave by reflection and he who's conscious approves his condact, will pursue principals of standing for what is right, regardless who will be or not be accommodated to approve his/ her views. Integrity is choosing you're thoughts based on values rather than fitting in the crowd to accomodate their approval by compromising your values.... It can be exhosting tiresome when facing constant conflicts that one can just wish to 'give up' to pursue anything but one can not give up of being 'Me.'
Agree and yet, I am enterntained and enjoy to watch noble Miwagi trying to do 'something new' that many tried before and gave up....I like his patience and tactics of a teacher that gently starts with introduction of a first few letters in alphabet to new students (particularly to extrime Leader of Leftis who sees everything that's not them as extrime) So fare- he's doing ok.
Lucky you, everything is in perfect peace and harmony where you live.... No homegrown therorrist, no rapes of teenager kids.....no issues what so ever ? As far as my personal experience goes, I have a good personal experiences with some individual muslims (work related), we greetings each other with respect, I've learn some of their wordings greetings and body language gestures to greet them, to exchange congratulations for Ramadan or Christmas, funtastic ...but I am aware, if this people become majority, this wonderful 'adopted?' individuals would have to follow their crowd of strict Islam = Sharia law....and none muslims would have to change everything they know.
Beautiful stright forward answer...but reality might be a bit different when politicly correct seek from you to bow in compromising you're values and beliefs to accommodate certain migrant minority....like for example to stop putting Christmas threes in shoping centres, to seperate women and man not to mix in swimming pool, and blah blah blah....
Just don't get in routine of rejecting all - as you might not recognise prince charming when he knock on your door. Hope you find what you're looking for and don't listen anyone who is too negative or overwhelmingly optimistic....
Good example. I love Comedy like, Monty Python, Mr Bean is my favourite etc. and CS involvement on the forum helped me a lot in understanding some ordinary Englishmen's dry humour but with some people, I don't always get it, lol. Thank you for sharing you're experience.
Thank you for seing my maid point. It's just example of seing 'ultimatum' in diferent style of communication approach and situations, from different angle of perceptions, regardless, who's cup of tea is that or not.
There's a more than a few people here (man and women!) who I find inteligent,interesting, respectful, friendly warm, thoughtful and a great enterntainers, which includes you ! I like how you mispeal Herbal as his name always reminds me of herbs. (Sorry Herbal. )He is a quick witt but I don't always get his English dry humour and can laugh - for not getting it. However, it's interesting that I do find a way easier to laugh at American humouristic style so it must be obvious differences or its me... or its both.
I just wish to add, that not all 'ultimatums' are direct obvious in wordings and depend in what way someone choose to approach that could be acceptable.... I know couple's that lived together for some years and she really wanted to be proposed and it meant something to her as she was broth up that way .....but that didn't come to his mind, taking her and their relationship for granted ...and she left, giving him a space, not in unloving way but she made it clear how she feels and until he knows what is important to him, not to contact her. After a few months of no contact, he did propose her.
The problem may arise when ex wants to come back or due to warm friendship she/he might never come over the fact that it's truly over or start behaving as chancellor in you're new relationship.
I know someone that never payed me more from a few buck's for the car given away in advence on word of trust , the car was worth seven thousend, and person sold my car before giving me any $ Gamblers are not to be trusted and yet after some years loosing touch - (writting things off as a bad debit), the same person remembers to call me in emergency to give a lift to hospital and I can't say 'no' There's was never any word of apology but who cares for the appology, now I just wish not to be waken up to play ambulance car.
I am against any kind of blackmail or ultimatums but not every culture /nations, view from the same point of view and it can be really culturally understandable if you're born in culture where marriage is taken as honouring what you love with taking full responsibility and care...and opposite to that can be taken, 'as taking you for a long ride' as dishonoring ....to unknown future, where women biological clock is ticking out when she rich 30s.
Does it relate to proposal of marriage ? Marry me or you know what. Nah, ultimatums just makes me keener to do opposite. If man tells me to be quiet, I can't stop talking...but if he tells me to talk, I loose interest.
I wish to go to university doing proffesional photography and when I suggested that to my daughter, she said, she doesn't want me to come to her classroom and say 'Don't you love you're mother,sit next to me.' I reacted like a left neglected puppy when she said that. Generally speaking, I do work hard to get what I want.
.... "And when Love speaks, the voice of all the gods Makes heaven drowsy with the harmony. Never durst poet touch a pen to write Until his ink were tempered with Love's sighs.”
- You put me into reading more of Shakespeare poetry. Lol
RE: What's your definition of tolerance?
Now when you underlined what other poster stated and Ive re-read his post again, OMG I've understood better what he actually said.I am overdue to sleep.