ICU is full of the unvaccinated – my patience with them is wearing thin, a respiratory Dr's view
From the Guardian, November 2021In response to: Most of the resources we are devoting to Covid in hospital are being spent on people who have not had their jab
In hospital, Covid-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated. The man in his 20s who had always watched what he ate, worked out in the gym, was too healthy to ever catch Covid badly. The 48-year-old who never got round to making the appointment.
The person in their 50s whose friend had side-effects. The woman who wanted to wait for more evidence. The young pregnant lady worried about the effect on her baby.
The 60-year-old, brought to hospital with oxygen saturations of 70% by the ambulance that he initially called for his partner, who had died by the time it arrived; both believed that the drug companies bribed the government to get the vaccine approved.
All severely ill with Covid. All unvaccinated and previously healthy. All completely avoidable.
Of course, there are people who have their vaccinations but still get sick. These people may be elderly or frail, or have underlying health problems. Those with illnesses affecting the immune system, particularly patients who have had chemotherapy for blood cancers, are especially vulnerable. Some unlucky healthy people will also end up on our general wards with Covid after being vaccinated, usually needing a modest amount of oxygen for a few days.
But the story is different on our intensive care unit. Here, the patient population consists of a few vulnerable people with severe underlying health problems and a majority of fit, healthy, younger people unvaccinated by choice. Watching the mix of patients coming in with Covid, it feels to me like hardly anybody has been vaccinated nowadays; of course, this is because the people that have been vaccinated are getting on with their lives at home. If everyone got vaccinated, hospitals would be under much less pressure; this is beyond debate. Your wait for your clinic appointment/operation/diagnostic test/A&E department would be shorter. Your ambulance would arrive sooner. Reports of the pressure on the NHS are not exaggerated, I promise you.
Most of the resources that we are devoting to Covid in hospital are now being spent on the unvaccinated.
Yes, vaccinations are unpleasant. They cause side-effects. They hurt. You may even still catch Covid afterwards. I have many colleagues who have felt awful after vaccination and a few who had to take a day or two off work. However, I have not heard of any who have been hospitalised with Covid afterwards or who have had severe side-effects. The approvals process was incredibly stringent and we now have an unbelievable amount of real-world data that these vaccines work. The science that has been applied here is nothing short of awe-inspiring to me. However, I realise that none of these rational arguments would change the mind of someone who is resolved against having it, although I suppose it may push someone who remains undecided.
In hospital, Covid-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated. The man in his 20s who had always watched what he ate, worked out in the gym, was too healthy to ever catch Covid badly. The 48-year-old who never got round to making the appointment.
The person in their 50s whose friend had side-effects. The woman who wanted to wait for more evidence. The young pregnant lady worried about the effect on her baby.
The 60-year-old, brought to hospital with oxygen saturations of 70% by the ambulance that he initially called for his partner, who had died by the time it arrived; both believed that the drug companies bribed the government to get the vaccine approved.
All severely ill with Covid. All unvaccinated and previously healthy. All completely avoidable.
Of course, there are people who have their vaccinations but still get sick. These people may be elderly or frail, or have underlying health problems. Those with illnesses affecting the immune system, particularly patients who have had chemotherapy for blood cancers, are especially vulnerable. Some unlucky healthy people will also end up on our general wards with Covid after being vaccinated, usually needing a modest amount of oxygen for a few days.
But the story is different on our intensive care unit. Here, the patient population consists of a few vulnerable people with severe underlying health problems and a majority of fit, healthy, younger people unvaccinated by choice. Watching the mix of patients coming in with Covid, it feels to me like hardly anybody has been vaccinated nowadays; of course, this is because the people that have been vaccinated are getting on with their lives at home. If everyone got vaccinated, hospitals would be under much less pressure; this is beyond debate. Your wait for your clinic appointment/operation/diagnostic test/A&E department would be shorter. Your ambulance would arrive sooner. Reports of the pressure on the NHS are not exaggerated, I promise you.
Most of the resources that we are devoting to Covid in hospital are now being spent on the unvaccinated.
Yes, vaccinations are unpleasant. They cause side-effects. They hurt. You may even still catch Covid afterwards. I have many colleagues who have felt awful after vaccination and a few who had to take a day or two off work. However, I have not heard of any who have been hospitalised with Covid afterwards or who have had severe side-effects. The approvals process was incredibly stringent and we now have an unbelievable amount of real-world data that these vaccines work. The science that has been applied here is nothing short of awe-inspiring to me. However, I realise that none of these rational arguments would change the mind of someone who is resolved against having it, although I suppose it may push someone who remains undecided.
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Enshrined in the way we protect patients’ autonomy is the recognition that others may reasonably make decisions we may see as irrational or wrong. We are all products of our upbringing, education and opportunities, and I have been hugely fortunate that in my case these have led me to make decisions I value. Who is to say I wouldn’t have made different choices in someone else’s shoes.
Translating this to the choice not to take the vaccine, however, I find my patience wearing thin. I think this is for a number of reasons. Even if you are not worried about your own risk from Covid, you cannot know the risk of the people into whose faces you may cough; there is a dangerous and selfish element to this that I find hard to stomach.
Some of my frustration is directed upwards, at the flagrant misinformation flourishing in certain places and the utterly woeful example that our leaders continue to set. I have never heard a reason not to take the vaccine that I have agreed with. Most of all, however, I am now beaten back, exhausted, worn down by the continuous stream of people that we battle to treat when they have consciously passed up the opportunity to save themselves. It does make me angry.
Despite this, I find the idea of NHS and care staff being forced to be vaccinated very difficult. I know that it is the right outcome, but I dislike the means of bringing it about. It is incredible to me that there is so much anxiety and falsehood around that this could possibly be necessary after the year we have all witnessed. How strong is the hold that this information has on people that it outweighs rational thought?
Maybe it’s just that others have not seen what I have recently, or do not believe it, but even now we have nurses on our Covid ward who have not been vaccinated. I just hope that we don’t end up losing yet more staff.
Fundamentally though, for me, it comes down to this. I can’t think of a single case offhand of a person who was previously fit and healthy who has ended up needing intensive care after being fully vaccinated. It may not stop you from catching Covid. But it can save your life when you do.
The writer is an NHS respiratory consultant who works across a number of hospitals
ICU is full of the unvaccinated – my patience with them is wearing thin, A RESPIRATORY DR's VIEW
ICU is full of the unvaccinated – my patience with them is wearing thin
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IMO.
It sounds Much like the report in the US that gunshot victims in rural Oklahoma were dying in the streets due to hospitals filled with UnJabbed Covid patients ...
Proven to be Totally Bogus.
Interesting that our esteemed OP omitted the Link to the Originally Titled Article, is it Not?
""How come younger people who die of COVID seem to be almost always really fat? Having the internal organs of somebody twice their age?"""
Obesity is a Recognized preexisting condition that predisposes a patient to More Severe Covid Symptoms & Death.
Greater body mass causes the lungs & heart to work harder supplying 02 to the body.
When Covid Compromises the ability to supply O2 -
The situation in an obese patient can become Very critical Very Quickly ...
The writer is an NHS respiratory consultant who works across a number of hospitals
Such is the CLAIM - A VERIFIABLE Name & Facility Affiliation would lend Credibility.
If "Missing Link" Riz was So Sure of the Source, Why Not provide us the LINK??
It smells Fishy -
IMO
The "Guardian"
I'm not sure what's worse. The Guardian or CNN
But, you're a professor. Who am I to question
In all seriousness, what were you a teacher of?
There's one thing to spout accolades but what, where and whom were you teaching......apart from English/Engels of course
This one seems to work ...
CDC Reports 28x More Fully Vaxxed Than Unvaxxed Hospitalized With COVID
Published on November 4, 2021
Written by Kenneth Richard
A New CDC Study (Inadvertently?) Finds 28 Times More Fully Vaccinated Patients (5,213) Were Hospitalized With COVID From June To September Than The Unvaccinated With Prior Infection (189) In Nine U.S. States.
The CDC was apparently hoping this study would demonstrate the superiority of vaccination relative to natural immunity from a prior infection so they could compel more Americans to get vaccinated. It may have backfired.
after not having had the shot. I figured, I couldn't do that.
So I vaxed up.
Israel appears to be in serious trouble. Oddly, there’s evidently open discussion on TV.
The professor is asked if he has a clear position on boosters.
He replies it’s not anywhere found in Pfizer’s clinical dossiers.
That there’s no good scientific rationale for a 3rd dose or for mass vaccination of the population.
My comment: Obviously the globalists are doing a poor job controlling the Israeli people while they kill them off with the vax. LOL
Such incompetence.
Such lack of obedience to control the masses with propaganda and military force to march their citizens towards getting the death jab.
With millions of people in Europe protesting against the vax and now the officials in Israel letting "the cat out of the bag" on how the vax is not working - you are clearly in trouble with the globalists.
You best turn this situation around and fly straight or else the globalists will start a war against you next - to make up for you saving too many lives by telling the truth.
It appears ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) is starting to take hold.
The booster shot makes a weakened vaccine stronger, no real difference to the annual flu shot that no one ever complained about.
Jens Spahn said the rapid rise in coronavirus cases means it's likely everyone in the country who isn't vaccinated will have caught COVID-19 by the end of the winter - and some of those will die.
Official figures showed more than 30,000 newly confirmed cases in Germany over the past 24 hours - an increase of about 50% compared to one week ago.
Hospitals have warned that ICU capacities are nearly exhausted, with some patients having to be transferred to other clinics far away.
Mr Spahn urged Germans to get vaccinated, including with booster shots if their first round of inoculation occurred more than six months ago, to reduce the risk of serious illness.
"By the end of this winter pretty much everyone in Germany... will have been vaccinated, recovered or died," he told reporters in Berlin.
He acknowledged some had described this view as cynical.
"But it's true. With the highly contagious delta variant this is very, very likely and that's why we are recommending vaccination so urgently."
Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die (from All causes) as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal. I don’t know how to explain this.