What's LOVE or MARRIAGE gotta do with it?

We've heard it in song (Tina Turner), and we've had cause to ask the same question (of ourselves, and of others) even if only in our thoughts. We've also heard that "love is not enough", and may have experienced it, too. So why can't many women admit that love doesn't have to be the reason for pursuing/being in a relationship.

I've been on here since February and have chatted with quite a few men, most of who seemed to think that I was interested in 'marriage', either because of the mere fact that I'm on here or because of the word "companion" that heads my profile. But, does dating always have to be about finding 'love' and getting 'married'? That would be IDEAL, but I don't ascribe to it being the ideal for everyone. It certainly isn't the ideal for me (although it definitely was when I was much much youngergrin).

Life experiences and age has brought reason/wisdom, mostly about who you are personally (i.e. the psychological, moral, spiritual and physical being), and what you want, regardless of what family and society may expect of you. And even if you're a romantic (like me), you may still understand the difference between what's 'ideal' and what's 'real' about your hopes/plans for your future. So, sometimes, neither love nor marriage, may be what you want from a relationship at the moment.

And I'm not hinting at 'sex' and 'money' as alternatives, even though they often are. I'm really thinking about mutual admiration and respect, companionship, shared interests, etc (which may/may not include great sex and shared finances) and may/may not even lead to love as a pleasant 'side effect'.

I've often thought that many men understood that reality very early in life, whereas many women (myself included), were mainly encouraged to focus on the ideal. And, perhaps that's why we have struggled to understand or have relationships that aren't focused upon achieving 'love and marriage'.

The thing is, I now have a greater appreciation for that kind of relationship, and feel a bit put off when others don't. Am I wrong for expecting them to, or are they being archaic in their expectations of me?
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Do you really want your pal to admire you and you to admire him? I've lowered my expectations from that quite a bit. I'd be happy with a hint of appreciation these days. See what age those to you aye? Makes you lower your standards. Alas.
I've always went for physical attraction /chemistry. It doesn't happen very often and doesn't always turn out good.
I've been married twice, the first time it was my high school sweetheart and I felt it would last forever until he decided by dating me first he missed out, so he wanted many women. I stayed for 2 yrs hoping he would change his mind but he didn't and gladly help move me out. Second husband was many years later but there was less caring after we were married, it was a rough marriage. So after that I decided I was done! BUT then another man came into my life and was everything a woman could ever want from a man. He made up for the last two.. bad thing was after a couple years an old girlfriend of his came back.. and I was dumped..lol THEN I decided friends only from now on. THEN the last man's g/f died and he then wanted me back. I thought about it and told him no thank you..scold hurt me once shame on you, hurt me twice shame on me!
Wow Hpylady, you endured all that because of pursuing a relationship for 'love' and 'marriage'. I'm guessing for relationship-focus may be different now?hmmm
Sorry, that should be 'your' relationship-focus, not 'for'...
You're right I'm not looking at all... friendship only.
This is what women do once they hit a certain phase in their life. Friendship only.
laugh So do I, so I use my laptop always.
Not all women, though. I've made "friendship" more important to me, than it was previously, but it's not ONLY what I'm hoping for.
Well, that's a good thing. I somehow was under the impression that once a guy hits 50, he either dates a 20 year old or else, if he dates within his age range, he's condemned to a life of strict celibacy and friendship sigh
Really?...hmmm
To me, YES. Otherwise I will not call it "Dating" wave
wave Interesting perspective Kal. However, historically, 'love' and 'marriage' never had/needed 'dating' as a precursor (i.e. first stage of the relationship). But if you see dating as being the same as courting, then I concur.
For me, 'Dating' is akin to searching for someone to build a medium to long term relationship with. 'Courting', on the other hand, is akin to convincing/or being convinced by that chosen person (aka 'wooing') of his/her keen interest in formal marriage to her/him.
Well they're risk-averse and less likely to move on, more likely to believe in their one and only. More likely to be in a long-term relationship with someone who could do better but doesn't because women are hard work enough as they are. Most men marry down to some extent.
Love & marriage being discussed on a dating site..... how odd roll eyes
whatever next lol

Physical attraction has always been a must for me, having said that.....
have you ever accidently kissed someone you'd never think of kissing and found it rather nice?
Sometimes it can be the case, what the eyes don't see... the heart does heart beating

Love is not all it's cracked up to be, happiness is though very happy

You can someone yet not be happy but can you be happy without feeling love.

In my books, love doesn't conquer all, happiness does wine
jmo

wave Di
Doh doh

you can LOVE someone
"Love & marriage being discussed on a dating site..... how odd
whatever next lol"

laugh Imagine that...



"Love is not all it's cracked up to be, happiness is though.
You can someone yet not be happy but can you be happy without feeling love."


So true CW. thumbs upwine It really makes sense to focus more on 'happiness' (and 'companionship') instead ; they may certainly be easier to achieve.
hmmm Now that I think of it more, perhaps my profile should say "Not seeking love and marriage, so only those interested in happiness and companionship need apply".grin
And so am I...
and your view is simply the best for anyone looking, to have thumbs up


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